Question on "Skilled work"

[brit88]

Hey guys,

Received my IEC and will be using it within the next 12 months but i've been looking in to CEC for future purposes (simply love canada and recently came back after being there for 2 months)

I'm british living in the UK, 28 years of age and currently work as a car body repairer HOWEVER i never went to school for this so only have it down as work experience

Would this still count towards me being a skilled worker? even if i carry on with this when in canada on my IEC

 

[ContactFront]

Depending on which province you are going to, you may need a certification
http://noc.esdc.gc.ca/English/noc/Profile.aspx?val=7&val1=7322&ver=16&_ga=2.90300051.803408469.1525790592-614048177.1525790592

 

[monkeyspanner]

For CEC you would need Canadian work experience in NOC Job categories O A or B as one of the qualifying requirements. It looks like the NOC code for you is 7322 and it is in category B. http://noc.esdc.gc.ca/English/noc/Profile.aspx?val=7&val1=7322&ver=16&_ga=2.259639306.168987419.1525804888-11216541.1523395873
Although this definition stipulates the formal qualifications for this job IRCC are only concerned that you have undertaken the relevant work experience. So as long as you can convince an employer to take you on with the appropriate job specification and that employer writes you an appropriate letter setting out sufficient of the NOC code duties you should be OK in this respect. You need the equivalent of 52 full time weeks (minimum 30hours is full time) within 3 years (2 years as you would be on IEC), or part time hours equivalent. In my case my work as a cook qualified me but I had no formal qualification. However have a look at the points you can get using IRCC online CRS points calculator you may need to make some assumptions to guage the points you might get https://www.canada.ca/en/immigration-refugees-citizenship/services/immigrate-canada/express-entry/become-candidate/criteria-comprehensive-ranking-system.html. Then look at the express entry draw history to see how many points you might need the last draw was at 441 points. Most people rely on their college or uni qualifications to get to this level of points. Have a look and come back if you have more queries I am sure someone will advise. Good luck

 

[brit88]

Thanks for the replies guys, very helpful

 

[jes_ON]

For CEC you would need Canadian work experience in NOC Job categories O A or B as one of the qualifying requirements. It looks like the NOC code for you is 7322 and it is in category B. http://noc.esdc.gc.ca/English/noc/Profile.aspx?val=7&val1=7322&ver=16&_ga=2.259639306.168987419.1525804888-11216541.1523395873
Although this definition stipulates the formal qualifications for this job IRCC are only concerned that you have undertaken the relevant work experience.

This is generally true for most occupations, the exception being for regulated occupations. Your occupation (cook) is not regulated, so it is true for you.

Trades are usually regulated, at the provincial level, and if you work in a province where a certification or license is "compulsory" or "mandatory" then you either require the license or your work is unauthorized, and unauthorized work cannot be counted (having said that, I have seen cases slide through).

This NOC appears to be partly regulated.

• Trade certification for motor vehicle body repair (metal and paint) is compulsory in Nova Scotia, Ontario and Alberta and available, but voluntary, in Newfoundland and Labrador, Prince Edward Island, New Brunswick, Manitoba, Saskatchewan, British Columbia, the Yukon, the Northwest Territories and Nunavut.
• Auto body repairer and painter certification is compulsory in Quebec and auto body repairer certification is compulsory in Ontario and Alberta and available, but voluntary, in the Yukon and the Northwest Territories.

So I would say as long brit88 avoids Ontario, Alberta, and possibly Nova Scotia or Quebec (depending on the focus) then he should be OK.

 

[brit88]

Ontario was where i was looking as i have recently spent 2 months there
Might have to take a look at Manitoba

 

[monkeyspanner]

One other factor to note is that the CRS points awarded for age decrease once you get to 30 so you might wish to take account of your current age, when you intend to go to Canada and how long it may take to get the 12months canadian work experience.

 

[brit88]

Funny thing is i actually had a job offer as a cook in the UK weeks before posting this as i must admit, i love cooking haha... and it was from a previous CV when i left my old job

 

[brit88]

no way do i have enough points without previous education....

only other option is to go down the skilled trades route instead of worker

but it requires 2 years experience, does anyone know if i can extend the IEC with extended work?


p.s i do google all of this but it's nice to get some solid advice on here

 

[scylla]

no way do i have enough points without previous education....

only other option is to go down the skilled trades route instead of worker

but it requires 2 years experience, does anyone know if i can extend the IEC with extended work?


p.s i do google all of this but it's nice to get some solid advice on here

You cannot extend an IEC work permit. If you want to work longer, your employer would need to obtain an LMIA so that you can apply for a closed work permit.

 

[jes_ON]

but it requires 2 years experience, does anyone know if i can extend the IEC with extended work?

Note that this 2 years of experience does not have to be IN CANADA, it can be foreign work experience or a combination, in the past 5 years...

 

[jes_ON]

but it requires 2 years experience, does anyone know if i can extend the IEC with extended work?

IEC permits cannot be "extended." HOWEVER, every country has its own rules...
http://www.cic.gc.ca/english/work/iec/eligibility.asp?country=gb&cat=wh&#country_category_name

"Description: The Working Holiday category is designed for British citizens who intend to travel in Canada and who wish to find temporary paid employment to help pay for their trip (up to 24 months)."

So.... how long is your permit valid for...?

 

[brit88]

Note that this 2 years of experience does not have to be IN CANADA, it can be foreign work experience or a combination, in the past 5 years...

i was just thinking that, thanks

 

[brit88]

IEC permits cannot be "extended." HOWEVER, every country has its own rules...
http://www.cic.gc.ca/english/work/iec/eligibility.asp?country=gb&cat=wh&#country_category_name

"Description: The Working Holiday category is designed for British citizens who intend to travel in Canada and who wish to find temporary paid employment to help pay for their trip (up to 24 months)."

So.... how long is your permit valid for...?

as above, 24 months