Quebec Skilled Worker Federal Stage (After CSQ)

[Marlee]

I agree with you in general. You need French to experience life to the full extent of it, and to enhance your job's opportunities. However, you yourself said that obtaining good score in French is not enough, and I am guessing you still learn French after you got your CSQ for your job. This could apply to anyone eager to move to Quebec. At the end, Quebec is a beautiful province and it is worth it to make the effort to live in it and to respect its culture.

You are right, scoring B2 or C1 is not sufficient in order to function flawlessly in everyday work life. Especially the slang is something most people underestimate completely. Québécois French is completely different from French French and even hard to understand for European French native speakers. You will have to continue to make an effort once you arrive here - and that is where I agree with you - anyone will have to do that.

The thing I wanted to point out in my post is that if you don't have a profound knowledge of the language upon arrival, you will have serious problems finding a decent job here. Canadian employers don't care about international work experience. The only thing they care about is work experience gained in Canada. They want to know whether you are able to function in Canada's culture and bring the performance they wish for in your working environment. The vast majority of people has to start all over again here, meaning they have to take courses in order to even get their qualifications approved and then they are fighting over entry-level jobs with recent Canadian university grads because no employer cares whether (for example) they were a hotel manager in Estonia for 10 years. They only care about what you did in Canada.

So if now, on top of that, your language proficiency in French is poor, you are narrowing your options to a minimum. Do they prefer native speakers with local university degrees and work experience over foreigners? Yes, of course they do. That's why I am saying: Don't make this entire immigration experience harder for you than it already is. Especially if you have another cultural background, the adjustment period is something that cannot be underestimated. The Western life may be the complete opposite of what you are used to from home and it might be hard for you to adjust to it. If you can avoid obstacles, avoid them. So either consider moving to another province if you are more comfortable with English or apply once you are actually ready. Starting a new life with an A1/A2 level in French here in Québec is something that I wouldn't want to go through. It was hard enough with a C1 level (and I grew up in Canada, so the cultural adjustment phase luckily didn't apply to me).

 

[subtain]

You are right, scoring B2 or C1 is not sufficient in order to function flawlessly in everyday work life. Especially the slang is something most people underestimate completely. Québécois French is completely different from French French and even hard to understand for European French native speakers. You will have to continue to make an effort once you arrive here - and that is where I agree with you - anyone will have to do that.

The thing I wanted to point out in my post is that if you don't have a profound knowledge of the language upon arrival, you will have serious problems finding a decent job here. Canadian employers don't care about international work experience. The only thing they care about is work experience gained in Canada. They want to know whether you are able to function in Canada's culture and bring the performance they wish for in your working environment. The vast majority of people has to start all over again here, meaning they have to take courses in order to even get their qualifications approved and then they are fighting over entry-level jobs with recent Canadian university grads because no employer cares whether (for example) they were a hotel manager in Estonia for 10 years. They only care about what you did in Canada.

So if now, on top of that, your language proficiency in French is poor, you are narrowing your options to a minimum. Do they prefer native speakers with local university degrees and work experience over foreigners? Yes, of course they do. That's why I am saying: Don't make this entire immigration experience harder for you than it already is. Especially if you have another cultural background, the adjustment period is something that cannot be underestimated. The Western life may be the complete opposite of what you are used to from home and it might be hard for you to adjust to it. If you can avoid obstacles, avoid them. So either consider moving to another province if you are more comfortable with English or apply once you are actually ready. Starting a new life with an A1/A2 level in French here in Québec is something that I wouldn't want to go through. It was hard enough with a C1 level (and I grew up in Canada, so the cultural adjustment phase luckily didn't apply to me).

I agree with everything. Just like to highlight some distinction is that if you belong to certain sectors of industry like IT, then in work place, you can just do fine with A2,B1 level of French (since IT clients are very diverse and English is more common language and thus used). But obviously its important to integrate into society as well. Point is if you are not very good at french and luckily belong to that kind of industry where french is not a barrier, you can then settle and learn french, without worrying about finances.

 

[David83]

You are right, scoring B2 or C1 is not sufficient in order to function flawlessly in everyday work life. Especially the slang is something most people underestimate completely. Québécois French is completely different from French French and even hard to understand for European French native speakers. You will have to continue to make an effort once you arrive here - and that is where I agree with you - anyone will have to do that.

The thing I wanted to point out in my post is that if you don't have a profound knowledge of the language upon arrival, you will have serious problems finding a decent job here. Canadian employers don't care about international work experience. The only thing they care about is work experience gained in Canada. They want to know whether you are able to function in Canada's culture and bring the performance they wish for in your working environment. The vast majority of people has to start all over again here, meaning they have to take courses in order to even get their qualifications approved and then they are fighting over entry-level jobs with recent Canadian university grads because no employer cares whether (for example) they were a hotel manager in Estonia for 10 years. They only care about what you did in Canada.

So if now, on top of that, your language proficiency in French is poor, you are narrowing your options to a minimum. Do they prefer native speakers with local university degrees and work experience over foreigners? Yes, of course they do. That's why I am saying: Don't make this entire immigration experience harder for you than it already is. Especially if you have another cultural background, the adjustment period is something that cannot be underestimated. The Western life may be the complete opposite of what you are used to from home and it might be hard for you to adjust to it. If you can avoid obstacles, avoid them. So either consider moving to another province if you are more comfortable with English or apply once you are actually ready. Starting a new life with an A1/A2 level in French here in Québec is something that I wouldn't want to go through. It was hard enough with a C1 level (and I grew up in Canada, so the cultural adjustment phase luckily didn't apply to me).

Now I agree with you. It would be harder but not impossible. Also, as Subtain mentioned not all jobs are the same. I know some people who work in the market without any French knowledge. But eventually you need French to broaden your options in life and in the market.

 

[subtain]

It has been 57 Days (40 working days) since I received AOR. No MR request or any correspondence. Ottawa office. But I guess if they take 11 months (15 - 4 [AOR] ) to do MR and security clearance, I shouldn't be surprised. Frustrated....yes :'(

 

[David83]

It has been 57 Days (40 working days) since I received AOR. No MR request or any correspondence. Ottawa office. But I guess if they take 11 months (15 - 4 [AOR] ) to do MR and security clearance, I shouldn't be surprised. Frustrated....yes :'(

Almost 3 months. What is wrong? People here say that they receive the MR within 5 weeks from the AOR!! I was excited at the beginning since it seemed as if they have begun to speed up the process. Do you think the country of origin may play a role in this difference?

 

[subtain]

Almost 3 months. What is wrong? People here say that they receive the MR within 5 weeks from the AOR!! I was excited at the beginning since it seemed as if they have begun to speed up the process. Do you think the country of origin may play a role in this difference?

Country of origin might be a factor. Like for some countries they might always do some special rigorous background check before sending medical request etc etc. I have requested GCM notes which I hope reveals something. They also take a month to deliver these notes.. Jeeez these guys are slow :'(

 

[Luc22]

It has been 57 Days (40 working days) since I received AOR. No MR request or any correspondence. Ottawa office. But I guess if they take 11 months (15 - 4 [AOR] ) to do MR and security clearance, I shouldn't be surprised. Frustrated....yes :'(

Same as you, I received AOR on June 26th and still waiting for MR,,

 

[Tuki]

Hi,

How I will understand my application is in Ottawa? As I have sent my application to Sydney and the email for AOR I have received is also from Sydney.

I have called to CIC couple of weeks before in order to know about the med req but the immigration officer did n't open my file, just said that it could take several months.

Thanks !!

 

[David83]

Country of origin might be a factor. Like for some countries they might always do some special rigorous background check before sending medical request etc etc. I have requested GCM notes which I hope reveals something. They also take a month to deliver these notes.. Jeeez these guys are slow :'(

I am guessing so.

 

[Ed78]

Hello guys,

Good day to all.. I just got my CSQ without interview and im planning to get married end of this year.. Does it affect my ongoing application for The VISA? I hope anyone here can answer my concerns.

Thanks and God bless u all..

 

[David83]

Hi,

How I will understand my application is in Ottawa? As I have sent my application to Sydney and the email for AOR I have received is also from Sydney.

I have called to CIC couple of weeks before in order to know about the med req but the immigration officer did n't open my file, just said that it could take several months.

Thanks !!

You will know when they send you the medical request.

 

[David83]

Hello guys,

Good day to all.. I just got my CSQ without interview and im planning to get married end of this year.. Does it affect my ongoing application for The VISA? I hope anyone here can answer my concerns.

Thanks and God bless u all..

Yes, you will have to apply to CSQ all over again with your spouse.

 

[Tuki]

You will know when they send you the medical request.

Thanks a lot. I am waiting for that...

But one of my friend received her med req (the email was from Sydney) in April, 2015 and she still does n't know her application has been forwarded to Ottawa or not.

 

[subtain]

Yes, you will have to apply to CSQ all over again with your spouse.

I second that. They will cancel your CSQ and your application will be re-processed from scratch. The processing time in this case is unknown and can take at least 1 year and more (according to call centers and website). Also this processing time is irrespective of how you got your original CSQ. (PEQ, validated offer of employment, Normal).

I was in a similar situation. So I ended up adding my wife only as a "non-accompanying" dependent. Meaning for the Federal stage of my application, I had to submit all her documents (including police certificates) and she will also go under medical exam like me. Fun fact is all that will go to waste because when I sponsor her after getting PR, I will again have to submit all her documents (police and medicals) and it will take the same time as any other sponsor application.

 

[David83]

I second that. They will cancel your CSQ and your application will be re-processed from scratch. The processing time in this case is unknown and can take at least 1 year and more (according to call centers and website). Also this processing time is irrespective of how you got your original CSQ. (PEQ, validated offer of employment, Normal).

I was in a similar situation. So I ended up adding my wife only as a "non-accompanying" dependent. Meaning for the Federal stage of my application, I had to submit all her documents (including police certificates) and she will also go under medical exam like me. Fun fact is all that will go to waste because when I sponsor her after getting PR, I will again have to submit all her documents (police and medicals) and it will take the same time as any other sponsor application.

How long does it take to sponsor a person like your (future) wife ( = for her to get the PR status)?