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Amirjs

Star Member
Apr 24, 2011
105
2
Category........
Visa Office......
Montreal
Job Offer........
Pre-Assessed..
App. Filed.......
20-08-2012
AOR Received.
22-10-2012
IELTS Request
Sent with the file: 4 points. TCFQ: sent with the file: B1 - 8 points
oszi said:
Thanks, I wish the best for all applicants. Actually I am good with old rules (63 points, waiver), I am good with new rules also (63 points again, priority?, waiver). The only thing that would kill my application, is if they only apply language rules, but not the new AOT list. That is why this strange info session signalmaker translated made me nervous...
So i guess you are a computer engineer? I have 4 years BCs information systems so i think they consider it as computer science ( 6 points) for em ... not as computer engineer (12 points)....

I guess, if they are to apply old rules on everything on your file and apply new rules for french, then they would at least send you a letter asking you to do another french test with B2 band within 90 days or something... and then they would waive the interview and send you CSQ...
 

Bachar

Hero Member
Sep 12, 2011
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mkshah said:
pls help me with some source of info such as a link or something where I can take a look at the rules applicable before Dec 6th, 2011
this the guide of Sep. 2011 which was applicable before Dec. 2011 changes
GUIDE DES PROCÉDURES D’IMMIGRATION - Sep. 2011
http://www.mediafire.com/?e1cct7dxur3ix71
 

mommy_pinay

Star Member
Jul 16, 2013
69
1
124
Category........
Visa Office......
Montreal
NOC Code......
U118
Job Offer........
Pre-Assessed..
App. Filed.......
16-07-2013
daffodils05 said:
Hello everyone,
Again here with a questions...
I am gathering documents to be send for CSQ with initial application.
Could anyone explain the following:
1. You must provide documentary evidence that your experiences have been acquired legally.
2. The certificates of employment experience made during learning, training or specialization Diploma must be accompanied by agreements established with the educational institution attended.

3. copy of family register........What kind of certificate is this? We don't have this type. Where to obtain?
You need to select your country to know which one certifies for yours.

There is a part in the website that would allow you to select a country and once you do that it will give you instructions what to do.
 

mkshah

Champion Member
Sep 2, 2010
1,572
38
Gujarat
Category........
PNP
Visa Office......
New Delhi
NOC Code......
6235 / 0112
hi bachar,
thanks bro for the link,
BTW how this new situation will affect your file?

If my application will be treated as signalmaker have suggested, then I will not get any points for French. I have reached to A2 level which gave me 3+1 pts as per old rules.
my spouse have reached A1 level (1+1 pts as per old rules)
also if they apply new rules for ielts then I will have only 5 points.

so, even if I am a pre 6th Dec 2011 applicant, if my file is treated with new language rules, I have now already lost 7 points.

very sad and strange feeling I am getting. After investing lot of money and 2 precious years of my life for this thing called Quebec Skilled Immigration, this is what I am getting.
How can they do this to all of us.....

Bachar said:
this the guide of Sep. 2011 which was applicable before Dec. 2011 changes
GUIDE DES PROCÉDURES D'IMMIGRATION - Sep. 2011
http://www.mediafire.com/?e1cct7dxur3ix71
 

signalmaker

Hero Member
Apr 19, 2012
552
11
Category........
Visa Office......
Montreal
NOC Code......
2147
Job Offer........
Pre-Assessed..
App. Filed.......
July 19th 2012
Doc's Request.
October 28th 2012 - Changed Check / and added a Child.
AOR Received.
Nov 26th 2012
IELTS Request
Sent with Application
Interview........
@ Waiting list since September 17th 2013
LANDED..........
Hopefully April 2017.
oszi said:
Thanks, I wish the best for all applicants. Actually I am good with old rules (63 points, waiver), I am good with new rules also (63 points again, priority?, waiver). The only thing that would kill my application, is if they only apply language rules, but not the new AOT list. That is why this strange info session signalmaker translated made me nervous...
it seems we are both on the same boat ... :))

but i was wondering if they only apply the new rules for the language part, he said that in one part in the recording, and when he got a question about AOT, he answered normaly and didnt say will not change ..
 

signalmaker

Hero Member
Apr 19, 2012
552
11
Category........
Visa Office......
Montreal
NOC Code......
2147
Job Offer........
Pre-Assessed..
App. Filed.......
July 19th 2012
Doc's Request.
October 28th 2012 - Changed Check / and added a Child.
AOR Received.
Nov 26th 2012
IELTS Request
Sent with Application
Interview........
@ Waiting list since September 17th 2013
LANDED..........
Hopefully April 2017.
mkshah said:
hi bachar,
thanks bro for the link,
BTW how this new situation will affect your file?

If my application will be treated as signalmaker have suggested, then I will not get any points for French. I have reached to A2 level which gave me 3+1 pts as per old rules.
my spouse have reached A1 level (1+1 pts as per old rules)
also if they apply new rules for ielts then I will have only 5 points.

so, even if I am a pre 6th Dec 2011 applicant, if my file is treated with new language rules, I have now already lost 7 points.

very sad and strange feeling I am getting. After investing lot of money and 2 precious years of my life for this thing called Quebec Skilled Immigration, this is what I am getting.
How can they do this to all of us.....
why you are assuming new rules if the guy in the recording said not ?
 

lemans207

Champion Member
Oct 21, 2011
2,667
32
Category........
Job Offer........
Pre-Assessed..
Amirjs said:
So i guess you are a computer engineer? I have 4 years BCs information systems so i think they consider it as computer science ( 6 points) for em ... not as computer engineer (12 points)....

I guess, if they are to apply old rules on everything on your file and apply new rules for french, then they would at least send you a letter asking you to do another french test with B2 band within 90 days or something... and then they would waive the interview and send you CSQ...
since your B1 level take course 6 months and youll get B2 level, there is still long time to come your interview.
to quebec there is no interview waiver, its very very rare, they need to see us personal for maybe security reasons etc because they are refusing also a lot during interview.and accepting a lot.
 

mkshah

Champion Member
Sep 2, 2010
1,572
38
Gujarat
Category........
PNP
Visa Office......
New Delhi
NOC Code......
6235 / 0112
I m not assuming my friend.

I took it from your post. you mentioned that though pre 6th Dec 2011 applications will be treated as per old rules, new language requirements such as min French level of B2 will as apply to them as well.

I think same will be for points of English language.

so I calculated how my points will be reduced with these new language requirements.

signalmaker said:
why you are assuming new rules if the guy in the recording said not ?
 

signalmaker

Hero Member
Apr 19, 2012
552
11
Category........
Visa Office......
Montreal
NOC Code......
2147
Job Offer........
Pre-Assessed..
App. Filed.......
July 19th 2012
Doc's Request.
October 28th 2012 - Changed Check / and added a Child.
AOR Received.
Nov 26th 2012
IELTS Request
Sent with Application
Interview........
@ Waiting list since September 17th 2013
LANDED..........
Hopefully April 2017.
mkshah said:
I m not assuming my friend.

I took it from your post. you mentioned that though pre 6th Dec 2011 applications will be treated as per old rules, new language requirements such as min French level of B2 will as apply to them as well.

I think same will be for points of English language.

so I calculated how my points will be reduced with these new language requirements.
no, that wasnt mentioned in the translation, that was the case for After Dec 2011, not before
 

oszi

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Oct 30, 2012
274
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lemans207 said:
since your B1 level take course 6 months and youll get B2 level, there is still long time to come your interview.
to quebec there is no interview waiver, its very very rare, they need to see us personal for maybe security reasons etc because they are refusing also a lot during interview.and accepting a lot.
In the op manual they state, that if the file has the necessary points for acceptance without adaptability, then interview is needed only if they have doubts about the authenticity of your docs.
 

lemans207

Champion Member
Oct 21, 2011
2,667
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mkshah said:
I m not assuming my friend.

I took it from your post. you mentioned that though pre 6th Dec 2011 applications will be treated as per old rules, new language requirements such as min French level of B2 will as apply to them as well.

I think same will be for points of English language.

so I calculated how my points will be reduced with these new language requirements.
your senior now and old, OLD IS COLD :D your aor dated nov 2011 as i see your timeline your under old rules
and they said only frnech language ....

trust me during my interview, the officer didnt ask me about english, they dont care for it, but actually they hate it :D
 

lemans207

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Oct 21, 2011
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oszi said:
In the op manual they state, that if the file has the necessary points for acceptance without adaptability, then interview is needed only if they have doubts about the authenticity of your docs.
yeah authenticity of documents degrees,,,, they dont trust anyone whose degree not french or quebec, so everyone go interview 95%
 

signalmaker

Hero Member
Apr 19, 2012
552
11
Category........
Visa Office......
Montreal
NOC Code......
2147
Job Offer........
Pre-Assessed..
App. Filed.......
July 19th 2012
Doc's Request.
October 28th 2012 - Changed Check / and added a Child.
AOR Received.
Nov 26th 2012
IELTS Request
Sent with Application
Interview........
@ Waiting list since September 17th 2013
LANDED..........
Hopefully April 2017.
lemans207 said:
yeah authenticity of documents degrees,,,, they dont trust anyone whose degree not french or quebec, so everyone go interview 95%
unfortunately any paper from " Lebanon ", by default fake for them, unless other wise is proved ...

this is the way they think of Lebanon ..
 

lemans207

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Oct 21, 2011
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signalmaker said:
unfortunately any paper from " Lebanon ", by default fake for them, unless other wise is proved ...

this is the way they think of Lebanon ..
its the opposite , Quebec trusts francophone counties a lot, specially education, lebanese universites are trusted in all france and quebec.
but actually all francophone countries are sh....... including quebec and france.

lebanon is considered a state from france ;)

as you can seee on other forum they are only interviewing lebanese,
in montreal about 200,000 lebanese

but interviews are to see how u look, who they r taking, since youll become a canadian :D