QUEBEC APPLICANTS LETS SHARE EXPERIENCE

[alexey_nathan]

Thank you Alexey.

My agent says that the application can be updated but the AOT can never be changed. Is this true? That is I actually applied as a person with no specific AOT but now that I am eligible for 0213 that change cannot be done.

Sorry, I am not sure about this.

 

[manibalan]

All of those exams are recognized by Quebec Immigration, so you can choose any one of those. Per new rules, B2 really is the level you need to attain for you to get points. Levels A1, A2 and B1 don't get any points anymore. However, if you really just want to take an exam to assess your level, I think TEF or TEFaQ can rate you as to if you're level A1 or A2, etc. The new rules state that applicants can now get points for the Writing part of a French Exam (before it was just Speaking and Listening), and I believe that TEF has the writing part, in addition to the Speaking and Listening parts. So, if you get B2 on TEF, you can get points for speaking, listening and writing (but only if you get B2 level on each of those), whereas in TEFaQ, you can only get points for listening and speaking (if you score B2 on each of those).

With DELF A1, you will get a certificate ONLY FOR level A1, even if you are already more advanced than that. Get a DELF A2, you ONLY GET an A2 level. With TEF or TEFaQ, you can get a result wherein you are in level A1 or A2 or B1 or B2, etc., because it is a placement exam. It assesses your actual level. Also, the results for DELF exams are actual diplomas, so there's no expiration. In TEFaQ, I know 'the Attestation' is valid only for a limited time.

I can only speak for DELF A1 and TEFaQ because those are the only ones I've taken. For me, DELF A1 was easier than TEFaQ because the vocabulary used were those that were found only in my A1 classes. With TEFaQ, however, many of the vocabulary were way above my comprehension. I did get an A2, however, despite having just attended A1 classes (I did additional self study, though). Furthermore, in my country, the results for DELF takes 3-4 months, whereas the results for TEFaQ takes 1-2 months only; so the difference in time may also apply in your country. Therefore, in my opinion, if you want an easier exam, take DELF. If you want a result that never expires, take DELF. If you are pressed for time, take TEFaQ. If you feel you can attain a higher level than A1, take TEFaQ.

Hope this helps.

Wow, really wonderful explanation. Great thanks. So, I go take DELF A1 which is easy to clear. I taught TEFaQ easy to clear than DELF A1. moreover I already submited my application in last year sep 2012. Got letter from Montreal that mentioned my file was opened. so waiting for interview.

 

[grimreaper]

Sorry, I am not sure about this.

Ok thanks

 

[oszi]

Quite funny, that less than 24 hours before the new rules apply, people still cannot know if their AOT will qualify or not, is it going to be prioritized and how many points it will worth...

For me, if I will be processed under the new rules, I am not eligible anymore, because without the 6 language points for A2, I do not satisfy the 50 point employability criteria, even if I would have 57 points before adaptability (I get 8 points for children). My only chance for a near future Quebec settlement is if my NOC gets 12+ points in new AOT list. I am really curious how they will handle old applications, and if they get refused after AOR and fees taken, will those ppl get a refund or not?...

 

[signalmaker]

Quite funny, that less than 24 hours before the new rules apply, people still cannot know if their AOT will qualify or not, is it going to be prioritized and how many points it will worth...

For me, if I will be processed under the new rules, I am not eligible anymore, because without the 6 language points for A2, I do not satisfy the 50 point employability criteria, even if I would have 57 points before adaptability (I get 8 points for children). My only chance for a near future Quebec settlement is if my NOC gets 12+ points in new AOT list. I am really curious how they will handle old applications, and if they get refused after AOR and fees taken, will those ppl get a refund or not?...

Just stay optimistic ..

if they apply you to new rules that would mean they have to return back the fees you paid, and also everyone's fees ..

 

[alexey_nathan]

Quite funny, that less than 24 hours before the new rules apply, people still cannot know if their AOT will qualify or not, is it going to be prioritized and how many points it will worth...

For me, if I will be processed under the new rules, I am not eligible anymore, because without the 6 language points for A2, I do not satisfy the 50 point employability criteria, even if I would have 57 points before adaptability (I get 8 points for children). My only chance for a near future Quebec settlement is if my NOC gets 12+ points in new AOT list. I am really curious how they will handle old applications, and if they get refused after AOR and fees taken, will those ppl get a refund or not?...

What is "employability criteria"?
What is your AOT?

 

[kuro_shio]

So, the time has finally come, now place your bets for tomorrow, ladies and gentlemen 8)

 

[dadabigboy]

Hi Friends,

While we're keeping our fingers crossed for the new rules to be immigrant friendlier, I am hoping someone would clarify a query that I have.

I got my IELTS results a week back. I scored an overall 8:

Listening- 9
Speaking- 7.5
Reading- 7.5
Writing- 7.0

I gave this test with just 3-4 sample papers practiced in 2 days. Now under the old rules, I was getting full 6 points. However, I am not clear on what my score will be under new rules, which are tentatively as follows:

" English proficiency has similarly changed. Points for English language skills will not be awarded until the Intermediate level, or levels 5-8 according to government criteria:

Speaking/ Listening Levels:

1-4 0 points
5-8 1 points
9-12 2 points


Reading/Writing Levels:

1-4 0 points
5-12 1 points


Can you guys let me know if I score the same here? Thanks a bunch in advance!!




hello, check this link http://www.ieltsessentials.com/results/ielts_for_canada.aspx , i think you should have all the points for english language, as for me my scores in ielts were as follows LISTENING 7, READING 7.5, WRITING 6, SPEAKING 7.5 overall 7. and the equivalent points in the new rules are LISTENING 1 READING 1,WRITING 1,SPEAKING 2, in all i still retained the 5 points i had prior in rules , in the prior rules for speaking i had 3 and for listening in had 2. i guess am still retaining my 62 points except something changes with the AOT in the coming gazette. guys lets all hope for the best

 

[oszi]

What is "employability criteria"?
What is your AOT?

Hi,

Employability criteria is 42/50 points minimum for single/with spouse applicants, by sum of points from these factors: education, work experience, age, language points, family in Quebec, employment offer and spouse points. It excludes points for children and financial.

AOT is NOC 2147, I am curious if they will follow the trend of FSW, and make it priority or not.

 

[alexey_nathan]

Hi,

Employability criteria is 42/50 points minimum for single/with spouse applicants, by sum of points from these factors: education, work experience, age, language points, family in Quebec, employment offer and spouse points. It excludes points for children and financial.

AOT is NOC 2147, I am curious if they will follow the trend of FSW, and make it priority or not.

Sorry to hear that, oszi. I hope the AOT list will be updated in your favor.

Your diploma is not from Quebec or Canada, right?

Also, where can I read more about employability criteria? Never heard of it before...

 

[alexey_nathan]

Guys, what amount of hours of work per week is considered full time for Quebec Immigration? Is 36 hours enough, or should it be 40?

 

[Ievgen]

Guys, what amount of hours of work per week is considered full time for Quebec Immigration? Is 36 hours enough, or should it be 40?

I read somewhere that it should be 37,5 hrs/week. Part-time equivalent can also be recalculated according to that standard.

 

[oszi]

Sorry to hear that, oszi. I hope the AOT list will be updated in your favor.

Your diploma is not from Quebec or Canada, right?

Also, where can I read more about employability criteria? Never heard of it before...

Here:

http://translate.google.com/translate?sl=fr&tl=en&js=n&prev=_t&hl=hu&ie=UTF-8&u=http%3A%2F%2Fwww2.publicationsduquebec.gouv.qc.ca%2FdynamicSearch%2Ftelecharge.php%3Ftype%3D7%26file%3DGPI-3-1.pdf&act=url

This is the official op manual to process QSW applications.

Search for employability in it.

 

[actaruslair]

Guys, what amount of hours of work per week is considered full time for Quebec Immigration? Is 36 hours enough, or should it be 40?

35 hours or 37.5 hours
40 hours minus lunch break is usually considered as a full time job.

 

[alexey_nathan]

35 hours or 37.5 hours
40 hours minus lunch break is usually considered as a full time job.

According to the Immigration Manual (thanks, oszi!) it is 30 hours:

Given that, according to the Statistics Canada definition, all (single or employment) main job held on the basis of 30 hours or more per week is considered a full-time professional experience, it is therefore the duration in months of all these experiences to be the unit of measurement used to evaluate the full-time work.