QORAX,WAYNE-PLz Help about Proof of RELATIONSHIP

[linksalman]

Dear friends,

I m a post june 26/6/10 Applicant. Current status is RBVO. I have recieved below email from London VO.

Dear Applicant,

Your application for permanent residence has been reviewed and the documents marked below are required.
An immigration officer will assess your application 60 days from the date of this email. The officer will make the decision to approve it, refuse it or call you for interview based on the documents and information contained in your application at the time of assessment. It is in your interest to submit the requested documents within 60 days. If you have not provided adequate information at the time of the officer’s assessment, your application may be refused. You will be notified in writing of the officer’s decision. Please do not send scanned copies of the documents via email.
If your documents are not written in either English or French, please enclose a certified translation with a photocopy of the original document. All documents submitted in support of your application are subject to verification with the issuing authority. Please allow four months for us to review incoming correspondence; please do not contact us unless there are significant issues which need to be brought to our attention. Please quote your file number on your submission and again on the top left hand corner of the envelope. Your file number is included in the subject field of this email.
Proof of relationship to your relative living in Canada and evidence that your relative is living in Canada:

1-Provide official, objective, legible documentation to prove that you are related to your relative. Documents should include birth certificates and marriage certificates. The certificates must state the parents’ full names. You must provide certificates for each person that links you to your relative. All documentation must predate your application. Affidavits prepared for the purpose of your application will not be considered conclusive evidence of your relationship.
2-Provide proof that your relative is living in Canada now. This should include: payslips issued to your relative by their employer in Canada, Canadian income tax documents (recent Notice of Assessment), credit card and bank account statements in your relative's name showing transactions that occurred in Canada. We will not accept utility bills, telephone bills and property ownership documents as conclusive evidence that your relative is living in Canada.

You must forward all requested documents together to the address below within 60 days of the date of this email. You will not receive any additional requests or reminders.
Yours sincerely,



In actuall, i have claimed points of adaptibility for my Spouse's Maternal Uncle.
Since both my Wife's Mother and My Mother in law's Brother[Wife's Uncle] were born before 1950. at that time people were very reluctant to make bc. even if they have made bc, due to frequent migration within the city/state they have lost their birth certificates. Therefore i sent following documents to CIO.

1.Wife's Birth certificate.
2.Wife's Mother Marriage certificate(showing common parent with her brother)
3.Wife's Mother's Brother's Marriage Certificate( Showing common parent with her Sister)

I dont know why VO has sent me and requested me for these documents since i already provided Marriage Certificates instead of Birth Certificates

I am not worried about payslips,tax dcuments,cc transaction as they can be easily arrange.

PLEASE Help me What should i reply to VO. I will be thankful to you.

 

[sonea]

u should have given some explaination with that and highlighted parents name in their certificates
anyway u can do it again also its better to give their education documents as a proof of relationship or family certificate of your wife (you wife's birth certificate should also have her mum's name) bcuz only your wife's mother reference is more than enough along with other doc. such as tax assesment etc..

which ever option u choose, do make sure that you explain it in writting to CHC..

 

[brando_jh_kh]

I my case I had given passport copy, and a utility bill of the relative staying in canada. I had made an affidavit to establish proof of relationship where everything was set forth and explained clearly and my father in law had taken this in his name.

 

[azazaz]

Dear friends,

I m a post june 26/6/10 Applicant. Current status is RBVO. I have recieved below email from London VO.

Dear Applicant,

Your application for permanent residence has been reviewed and the documents marked below are required.
An immigration officer will assess your application 60 days from the date of this email. The officer will make the decision to approve it, refuse it or call you for interview based on the documents and information contained in your application at the time of assessment. It is in your interest to submit the requested documents within 60 days. If you have not provided adequate information at the time of the officer's assessment, your application may be refused. You will be notified in writing of the officer's decision. Please do not send scanned copies of the documents via email.
If your documents are not written in either English or French, please enclose a certified translation with a photocopy of the original document. All documents submitted in support of your application are subject to verification with the issuing authority. Please allow four months for us to review incoming correspondence; please do not contact us unless there are significant issues which need to be brought to our attention. Please quote your file number on your submission and again on the top left hand corner of the envelope. Your file number is included in the subject field of this email.
Proof of relationship to your relative living in Canada and evidence that your relative is living in Canada:

1-Provide official, objective, legible documentation to prove that you are related to your relative. Documents should include birth certificates and marriage certificates. The certificates must state the parents' full names. You must provide certificates for each person that links you to your relative. All documentation must predate your application. Affidavits prepared for the purpose of your application will not be considered conclusive evidence of your relationship.
2-Provide proof that your relative is living in Canada now. This should include: payslips issued to your relative by their employer in Canada, Canadian income tax documents (recent Notice of Assessment), credit card and bank account statements in your relative's name showing transactions that occurred in Canada. We will not accept utility bills, telephone bills and property ownership documents as conclusive evidence that your relative is living in Canada.

You must forward all requested documents together to the address below within 60 days of the date of this email. You will not receive any additional requests or reminders.
Yours sincerely,



In actuall, i have claimed points of adaptibility for my Spouse's Maternal Uncle.
Since both my Wife's Mother and My Mother in law's Brother[Wife's Uncle] were born before 1950. at that time people were very reluctant to make bc. even if they have made bc, due to frequent migration within the city/state they have lost their birth certificates. Therefore i sent following documents to CIO.

1.Wife's Birth certificate.
2.Wife's Mother Marriage certificate(showing common parent with her brother)
3.Wife's Mother's Brother's Marriage Certificate( Showing common parent with her Sister)

I dont know why VO has sent me and requested me for these documents since i already provided Marriage Certificates instead of Birth Certificates

I am not worried about payslips,tax dcuments,cc transaction as they can be easily arrange.

PLEASE Help me What should i reply to VO. I will be thankful to you.

they not beleiving you. provide birth certificates of your mother in law and her brother

 

[linksalman]

What do they mean by this "All documentation must predate your application. ".

if i am going to make Birth certificate of my mother in law now. then will they accept it?

 

[mitali]

What do they mean by this "All documentation must predate your application. ".

if i am going to make Birth certificate of my mother in law now. then will they accept it?

It means that whatever docs you send NOW to CIC should be dated before the date of your PR application that was initially sent to CIO.

As I have suggested earlier...An affidavit of BC, Cert for "Non availability of Birth certificate" may help you sail through.

Mitali

 

[linksalman]

Dear Mitali,

They have clearly mentioned that they will not accept any affidavit in this regard.

Regards,
Salman

It means that whatever docs you send NOW to CIC should be dated before the date of your PR application that was initially sent to CIO.

As I have suggested earlier...An affidavit of BC, Cert for "Non availability of Birth certificate" may help you sail through.

Mitali

 

[mitali]

Dear Mitali,

They have clearly mentioned that they will not accept any affidavit in this regard.

Regards,
Salman

I know and that's why I gave you the best options available to you. You have a reason for not providing the BC in the first place and now you can only try to get the affidavits, Cert for Non availability of BC, or BC as such. But whatever you provide NOW will have the recent date and they have also mentioned that all docs should Pre date you application....can you provide such docs? The answer is - NO. So provide what best you have with authenticity. You at this point have no choice or the flexibility to make any choice.

Don't lose time...get all of them and send them to VO and await his decision.

Mitali

 

[sonea]

in pakistan NADRA provide family certificates (b-form) which include head of family's name and his dependents including wife it also has each members NIC numbers .. you can apply for that even now for your in law's family .. I also included that to show my brother as relative in canada but i also had our birth certificates so i gave them both these documents..
i think here a domicile will also help

 

[EMO]

Dear friends,

I m a post june 26/6/10 Applicant. Current status is RBVO. I have recieved below email from London VO.

Dear Applicant,

Your application for permanent residence has been reviewed and the documents marked below are required.
An immigration officer will assess your application 60 days from the date of this email. The officer will make the decision to approve it, refuse it or call you for interview based on the documents and information contained in your application at the time of assessment. It is in your interest to submit the requested documents within 60 days. If you have not provided adequate information at the time of the officer's assessment, your application may be refused. You will be notified in writing of the officer's decision. Please do not send scanned copies of the documents via email.
If your documents are not written in either English or French, please enclose a certified translation with a photocopy of the original document. All documents submitted in support of your application are subject to verification with the issuing authority. Please allow four months for us to review incoming correspondence; please do not contact us unless there are significant issues which need to be brought to our attention. Please quote your file number on your submission and again on the top left hand corner of the envelope. Your file number is included in the subject field of this email.
Proof of relationship to your relative living in Canada and evidence that your relative is living in Canada:

1-Provide official, objective, legible documentation to prove that you are related to your relative. Documents should include birth certificates and marriage certificates. The certificates must state the parents' full names. You must provide certificates for each person that links you to your relative. All documentation must predate your application. Affidavits prepared for the purpose of your application will not be considered conclusive evidence of your relationship.
2-Provide proof that your relative is living in Canada now. This should include: payslips issued to your relative by their employer in Canada, Canadian income tax documents (recent Notice of Assessment), credit card and bank account statements in your relative's name showing transactions that occurred in Canada. We will not accept utility bills, telephone bills and property ownership documents as conclusive evidence that your relative is living in Canada.

You must forward all requested documents together to the address below within 60 days of the date of this email. You will not receive any additional requests or reminders.
Yours sincerely,



In actuall, i have claimed points of adaptibility for my Spouse's Maternal Uncle.
Since both my Wife's Mother and My Mother in law's Brother[Wife's Uncle] were born before 1950. at that time people were very reluctant to make bc. even if they have made bc, due to frequent migration within the city/state they have lost their birth certificates. Therefore i sent following documents to CIO.

1.Wife's Birth certificate.
2.Wife's Mother Marriage certificate(showing common parent with her brother)
3.Wife's Mother's Brother's Marriage Certificate( Showing common parent with her Sister)

I dont know why VO has sent me and requested me for these documents since i already provided Marriage Certificates instead of Birth Certificates

I am not worried about payslips,tax dcuments,cc transaction as they can be easily arrange.

PLEASE Help me What should i reply to VO. I will be thankful to you.

What I will tell you to do my friend is to be consistent with your presentations to the VO. If there are such documents at your disposal, please do not hesitate to send them. Otherwise, do a covering letter that details reason why you cannot provide them, but provide what will reasonably prove your case. And suggest to them that you will be willing to foot the bill for possible DNA test, that is in the absence of these requested document.

Cheers

 

[pittabread]

What do they mean by this "All documentation must predate your application. ".

if i am going to make Birth certificate of my mother in law now. then will they accept it?

I think you need to be honest with them. Tell them you did not provide birth certificates before because you thought they weren't needed and marriage certificates were enough. Make birth certificates now and tell the same thing that your mother in law was born in 1950's and that time there was no such thing of obtaining a birth certificate. Also mention that you are 100% honest with them and if they still don't beleive you then they should call you for interview.

Another thing you can do, you can get in writing on stamp paper from union council or office where will you get birth certificate that your mother in law never obtained birth certificate from there before as it was not needed and this is the first time you are getting a birth certificate for her and if CIC people need more surities they can call Union council people.

You can also ask any lawyer as they are very clever and can tell you what exactly to do to satisfy CIC. They may charge you fees but can provide the right cure.

All the best.

 

[listener]

I think you need to be honest with them. Tell them you did not provide birth certificates before because you thought they weren't needed and marriage certificates were enough. Make birth certificates now and tell the same thing that your mother in law was born in 1950's and that time there was no such thing of obtaining a birth certificate. Also mention that you are 100% honest with them and if they still don't beleive you then they should call you for interview.

Another thing you can do, you can get in writing on stamp paper from union council or office where will you get birth certificate that your mother in law never obtained birth certificate from there before as it was not needed and this is the first time you are getting a birth certificate for her and if CIC people need more surities they can call Union council people.

You can also ask any lawyer as they are very clever and can tell you what exactly to do to satisfy CIC. They may charge you fees but can provide the right cure.

All the best.

i agree with @pittabread .............. its better to consult some goodimmigration lawyer.

 

[pittabread]

i agree with @ pittabread .............. its better to consult some goodimmigration lawyer.

Hi!

Well I didn't propose an immigration lawyer / consultant here as he can empty his pockets and they ask you to file your whole case through them and they don't give free consultations. I asked to consult some good ordinary lawyer as he only needs an opinion which any good lawyer can give.

Thanks

 

[JIMI 2]

I THINK FOR PROOF OF RELATION SHIP ONE CAN SEND PASSPORT COPIES OF BOTH SHOWING SAME PARENT.ALSO A COPY OF MATRIC CERTIFICATE WHICH ALSO SHOWS SAME PARENT

 

[EMO]

I THINK FOR PROOF OF RELATION SHIP ONE CAN SEND PASSPORT COPIES OF BOTH SHOWING SAME PARENT.ALSO A COPY OF MATRIC CERTIFICATE WHICH ALSO SHOWS SAME PARENT

I am sure the person in question must have resolved the issue. Please try update the outcome of the matter here for all to learn from.

Cheers