pulling my hair out over noc code

[larderland]

Hi My current job i'M finding very difficult to find the noc code for. My question is out of the noc codes below which suits best and SECOND do i even need this noc code to qualify as on my application i have one year class A working back home, and 1 year working class b in canada, then i received a promotion to my current job. But i cant find a suitable noc code for it.

if i don't need it to be a class B please let me know as ill ill just put down as a class c once it doesn't effect my profile

To keep it short my job is as follows.
I review clients documents when they apply for a mortgage after their mortgage has been approved, by our approval manager/underwriter. Im a loan officer. Basically I have a bunch of conditions that need to be met for you to get your money after your mortgage has been approved. Thats the real simple version of it. I review docs for income, liabilites, debts etc and make sure once everything is completed that you can afford the loan. I DO NOT work in a bank. I work for a mortgage lender

I found a noc code that match it 100% but its no longer a noc code. Its the loan officer 1232 noc code

Next is the one im using right now- its pretty close but I DONT DEAL with customers, my company is a mortgage lender so we deal with brokers who then deal with the customers. We do the work for the bank instead. this is the noc code 6235

the other noc code i found is 1114

and then there's class c 1434

For some reason this site wont let me post links


Any help would be greatly appreciated!!

 

[doobie.doobie]

I assue you took a certification from any institute before working or completed that required certification within 3-6 months from the date of hire. If yes, then you go by 1114.
If not, then 1434 in which you don't qualify.
Try contacting your HR, ask them about your NOC code.
P.S. your job duties don't have to match 100%. Anything around 80% you're golden.
I hope this helps.
Good Luck.

 

[larderland]

thanks for the reply. so basically my promotion has made me ineligible to apply for pr. amazing.......

 

[doobie.doobie]

thanks for the reply. so basically my promotion has made me ineligible to apply for pr. amazing.......

Well, I am not going to comment anything on your promotion.
Check with your HR.
But, if you have any such certification, you easily fall into NOC 0, A, B category.

 

[purplesnow]

under 6235, how many of the 10 duties listed do you do? if its 7-8 you should be fine with that one

 

[doobie.doobie]

under 6235, how many of the 10 duties listed do you do? if its 7-8 you should be fine with that one

6235 is financial services representative. It would hardly match her work duties. The role is very different. A 6235 person does nothing close to what she does.
She is the middleperson between the underwriter and mortgage specialist. Now, this could be tricky as your duties could be overlapping to both mortgage specialist and mortgage underwriter. So again, your HR or as I said earlier, if you have any certification like IFC, CSE, or mortgage exam you took, 1134 is the one.

 

[purplesnow]

6235 is financial services representative. It would hardly match her work duties. The role is very different. A 6235 person does nothing close to what she does.
She is the middleperson between the underwriter and mortgage specialist. Now, this could be tricky as your duties could be overlapping to both mortgage specialist and mortgage underwriter. So again, your HR or as I said earlier, if you have any certification like IFC, CSE, or mortgage exam you took, 1134 is the one.

well actually they do. based just on what the op said and the duties here, there's at least three to four of them they do. I'll highlight.

Open new personal and non-personal accounts, and provide access to automated banking machine, telephone banking and online banking services
Interview applicants for personal, mortgage, student and business loans
Promote the sale of deposit, investment, credit and loan products and services
Assist clients by proposing solutions to address financial objectives such as business expansion, debt management, investment and other financial goals
Research and evaluate loan applicant's financial status, references, credit and ability to repay the loan
Complete credit and loan documentation[/color]
Submit credit and loan applications to branch or credit manager with recommendations for approval or rejection; or approve or reject applications within authorized limits ensuring that credit standards of the institution are respected[/color]
Prepare statements on delinquent accounts and forward irreconcilable accounts for collector action
Review and update credit and loan files
Act as joint custodian for cash and securities.

now if there's three/four duties matching based on the simplified version of what the OP said their job is, its feasible that there's a couple more in there they do. Besides which, loan officer is a title under this code. so there's no reason to dismiss it just yet. the nocs go on the duties. if they can reasonable prove they do the majority of the duties listed, then this is the code, that's why I'm asking how many they do. If they can't then they need to find another code.

 

[doobie.doobie]

well actually they do. based just on what the op said and the duties here, there's at least three to four of them they do. I'll highlight.

Open new personal and non-personal accounts, and provide access to automated banking machine, telephone banking and online banking services
Interview applicants for personal, mortgage, student and business loans
Promote the sale of deposit, investment, credit and loan products and services
Assist clients by proposing solutions to address financial objectives such as business expansion, debt management, investment and other financial goals
Research and evaluate loan applicant's financial status, references, credit and ability to repay the loan
Complete credit and loan documentation[/color]
Submit credit and loan applications to branch or credit manager with recommendations for approval or rejection; or approve or reject applications within authorized limits ensuring that credit standards of the institution are respected[/color]
Prepare statements on delinquent accounts and forward irreconcilable accounts for collector action
Review and update credit and loan files
Act as joint custodian for cash and securities.

now if there's three/four duties matching based on the simplified version of what the OP said their job is, its feasible that there's a couple more in there they do. Besides which, loan officer is a title under this code. so there's no reason to dismiss it just yet. the nocs go on the duties. if they can reasonable prove they do the majority of the duties listed, then this is the code, that's why I'm asking how many they do. If they can't then they need to find another code.

To an exten you are right. But, i would like to mention two things here:
a) to qualify for an FSR6235 you need to have be mutual fund certified or csc qualified.
b)80% match in duties is needed to take that NOC code.

 

[purplesnow]

To an exten you are right. But, i would like to mention two things here:
a) to qualify for an FSR6235 you need to have be mutual fund certified or csc qualified.
b)80% match in duties is needed to take that NOC code.

a) - mutual funds or csc certs aren't a requirement. the noc only says they're usually required for these type of jobs, not that you have to have them to use this code. all jobs are different and its rare that you'd get an exact match. the noc duties and requirements listed are a guideline only.
b) - yeah, thats why i asked if he does 7-8 of them. like i said, getting an exact match is hard and these codes are varied and cover a wide range of job types under one code. not all duties listed are a match for all the job titles listed under a code. you pick the ones relevant to your job.

 

[AB3087]

Hi all.. I am dentist and i also have MPH degree..
I am confused about by NOC . I practice public health dentistry for more than 2 years were my job responsibilities were
Health promotion
Organizing Community camps
Oral care motivation and
Cancer awareness.
Presenlty i am working as public health consultant where my duties are almost same but also increased in some like population surveillance and training of officials had been added.
Can u please suggest that i should choose 3113 or 4165 or any other appropriate .

 

[larderland]

not to be rude AB3087 but you should start you own thread. your job has zero similatries to my job.

Any way doobie and purple thanks for the feedback. my issue is the 1232 loan officer is 100% what I do but you cant select it when applying for pr via express entry....

1114 is too off, 6235 is the closest thing I can find that match my duties, i relate to about 5 of the 10 duties, I don't know what to do. I've scoped all the noc codes and cant find a noc code that matches 80% of my duties.

1434 - this isn't me, i don't do many of the duties listed there
this is driving me crazy!!!!

 

[doobie.doobie]

not to be rude AB3087 but you should start you own thread. your job has zero similatries to my job.

Any way doobie and purple thanks for the feedback. my issue is the 1232 loan officer is 100% what I do but you cant select it when applying for pr via express entry....

1114 is too off, 6235 is the closest thing I can find that match my duties, i relate to about 5 of the 10 duties, I don't know what to do. I've scoped all the noc codes and cant find a noc code that matches 80% of my duties.

1434 - this isn't me, i don't do many of the duties listed there
this is driving me crazy!!!!

1232 is a NOC B category job. You can use it.

 

[jes_ON]

To keep it short my job is as follows.
I review clients documents when they apply for a mortgage after their mortgage has been approved, by our approval manager/underwriter. Im a loan officer. Basically I have a bunch of conditions that need to be met for you to get your money after your mortgage has been approved. Thats the real simple version of it. I review docs for income, liabilites, debts etc and make sure once everything is completed that you can afford the loan. I DO NOT work in a bank. I work for a mortgage lender

I found a noc code that match it 100% but its no longer a noc code. Its the loan officer 1232 noc code.

Next is the one im using right now- its pretty close but I DONT DEAL with customers, my company is a mortgage lender so we deal with brokers who then deal with the customers. We do the work for the bank instead. this is the noc code 6235

NOC 1232 (from 2006) was rolled into NOC 6235 (2011) along with other NOC(s). All of the job duties and responsibilities from 1232 are included (along with others) in 6235.

I realize that some of the additional duties are not relevant, but use the ones you can. As for the lead statement, it doesn't say that you MUST interact directly with customers, although an unskilled review officer might question it. Still, there's nothing you can do about it, if this is your NOC you have to work WITH it.

"Financial sales representatives sell basic deposit, investment and loan products and services to individuals and businesses. They work in banks, credit unions, trust companies and similar financial institutions (e.g. mortgage companies)."

Does that not fit?

 

[alvirahuda]

Dear all
I found my noc confusing, actually its general banking asso iate but I worked in back office.all the tasks are in 6235 are front related,i worked in account services department but not customer facing.
Can you pls suggest

 

[Wiki_now]

@larderland @doobie.doobie Although I'm posting this after 3+ years. But I'm in the same fix. I have a bit different role. My story is like this:

I have served in a private company which use to do credit analysis for Bank customers. Usually credit analysts are hired by Banks and Credit Unions but in our country Banks take validation from 3rd parties to avoid risks before making any progress. We used to call it Income Estimation of clients and businesses. There's no NOC code resembling this title. However NOC 6235 (Credit Analyst) is associated to some extent (30-40%%) but I saw that specifically mentions the jobs of is for Sales people in financial services. Can I use this NOC code even if I worked the on behalf of bank?