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Editsniper

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Oct 20, 2011
128
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Ontario
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Manila
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App. Filed.......
24-10-2011
Doc's Request.
17-01-2012
File Transfer...
28-12-2011
Med's Done....
14-09-2011
Interview........
Not Needed
Passport Req..
17-01-2012 (Letter received 30-01-2012-Passport arrived CEM 10-02-2012)
VISA ISSUED...
14-03-2012
LANDED..........
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maybe i might have a problem then for the VO to consider the marriage genuine but not sure, i'll explain.

My wife is 17 years younger then me but on the papers we did mention we first met online in chatroom in 2007 then we met in person in 2008 and lived together for 2 months then got engaged to marry then in 2009 went back and lived another 2 months together and got married in 2009 and we just now filed for PR as it took awhile to get the necessary Philippine passport for her in her married name and other papers for NSO, etc., plus she wanted to spend a little time with her father and family before she comes here as her father is 72 and not sure how much longer he has to live and when she does come here might be awhile before she can visit back home as plane tickets are expensive.
So October 2011 we finally filed the PR papers, one reason is so difficult on us being apart for so long we miss each other so much and other reason of course we want to start our life together, now the thing that might be a problem is that we maybe didn't include too much evidence but on the papers we did state we talk on phone 1-2 times a week, talked on yahoo and skype, plus text each other everyday (i don't have a cellphone to text her but i use a free program for texting to her cellphone through my computer) and that i support her with western union.

The evidence i did put in was the western union receipts, my phonebills showing the calls i made to her, pictures of us together when i was there, plane tickets from when i was there but the only thing i couldn't do was show prove of skype or yahoo talks because of i don't own a printer. So does this mean we will have a problem?
 

Borntowin

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Aug 4, 2011
367
15
Jai Hind
Category........
Visa Office......
Capital Of India
Job Offer........
Pre-Assessed..
App. Filed.......
25 APR 2011
Doc's Request.
16 JUN 2011 & 04 AUG 2011
AOR Received.
10 MAY 2011
File Transfer...
21 MAY 2011
Med's Request
01 FEB 2012
Med's Done....
15 FEB 2012
Interview........
15 MAY 2012 (SECURITY INTERVIEW)
Passport Req..
04 JUL 2011
VISA ISSUED...
15 MAY 2012
LANDED..........
BY ALMIGHTY GRACE ; LANDED GTA SAFELY ON 18 MAY 2012 ! Recvd PR Card on 17 July.
Editsniper said:
maybe i might have a problem then for the VO to consider the marriage genuine but not sure, i'll explain.

My wife is 17 years younger then me but on the papers we did mention we first met online in chatroom in 2007 then we met in person in 2008 and lived together for 2 months then got engaged to marry then in 2009 went back and lived another 2 months together and got married in 2009 and we just now filed for PR as it took awhile to get the necessary Philippine passport for her in her married name and other papers for NSO, etc., plus she wanted to spend a little time with her father and family before she comes here as her father is 72 and not sure how much longer he has to live and when she does come here might be awhile before she can visit back home as plane tickets are expensive.
So October 2011 we finally filed the PR papers, one reason is so difficult on us being apart for so long we miss each other so much and other reason of course we want to start our life together, now the thing that might be a problem is that we maybe didn't include too much evidence but on the papers we did state we talk on phone 1-2 times a week, talked on yahoo and skype, plus text each other everyday (i don't have a cellphone to text her but i use a free program for texting to her cellphone through my computer) and that i support her with western union.

The evidence i did put in was the western union receipts, my phonebills showing the calls i made to her, pictures of us together when i was there, plane tickets from when i was there but the only thing i couldn't do was show prove of skype or yahoo talks because of i don't own a printer. So does this mean we will have a problem?
Just have a look what CIC regulations says :-

If you are being sponsored by your spouse, common-law partner or conjugal partner, you must send evidence of the relationship such as;

• Proof of your sponsor's visits such as airline ticket coupons, boarding passes, copies of pages of your sponsor's passport showing entry/exit stamps

• Wedding photographs depicting all the rituals of a traditional wedding,

• Wedding reception and post wedding photographs,

• Evidence of continued contact with sponsor such as phone bills, letters and e-mails and

• Marriage certificate issued by the Registrar of Marriages.

If you are a common-law or conjugal partner, provide;

• Evidence that your relationship is genuine and continuing,

• Has existed for at least 12 months prior to your application,

• Details of the history of your relationship and,

• At least two statutory declarations from individuals with personal knowledge of your relationship supporting your claims.

Kind Note : Age difference may give out a red flag for the CIC, especially if it is in contradiction to your background/culture standards but it should not be a problem if you can prove to the CIC that you are in a genuine loving relationship. A lot of times they ask for an interview.

If you are indeed a genuine couple, there should be plenty about your relationship to share with CIC to "prove" it. The fact that there is 17 years difference in your ages will be readily apparent to them - and may or may not be a "red flag" depending on how you present yourselves otherwise. If they have doubts, they'll request an interview. Now at the interview they will try to figure out if you are really in a genuine relationship or not. Make sure you have enough supporting proof!!

All the best,
 

charmainefrances

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Oct 24, 2011
885
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St. Albert, Alberta
Visa Office......
CPC/VEGREVILLE TRANSFERRED TO CIC-EDMONTON
App. Filed.......
23-11-2010
File Transfer...
19-10-2011
Med's Request
12-10-2013
Med's Done....
23-10-2013 received by cic 31-10-2013
Interview........
12-09-2013 PASSED
Passport Req..
18-03-2014 PPR OF MY SON
VISA ISSUED...
10-06-2014
LANDED..........
June 24,2014 To God be the glory! PR CARD received: August 22, 2014 (exactly 60 days after landing)! Son's PR card arrived August 27, 2014 (exactly 65 days after landing)
Editsniper said:
maybe i might have a problem then for the VO to consider the marriage genuine but not sure, i'll explain.

My wife is 17 years younger then me but on the papers we did mention we first met online in chatroom in 2007 then we met in person in 2008 and lived together for 2 months then got engaged to marry then in 2009 went back and lived another 2 months together and got married in 2009 and we just now filed for PR as it took awhile to get the necessary Philippine passport for her in her married name and other papers for NSO, etc., plus she wanted to spend a little time with her father and family before she comes here as her father is 72 and not sure how much longer he has to live and when she does come here might be awhile before she can visit back home as plane tickets are expensive.
So October 2011 we finally filed the PR papers, one reason is so difficult on us being apart for so long we miss each other so much and other reason of course we want to start our life together, now the thing that might be a problem is that we maybe didn't include too much evidence but on the papers we did state we talk on phone 1-2 times a week, talked on yahoo and skype, plus text each other everyday (i don't have a cellphone to text her but i use a free program for texting to her cellphone through my computer) and that i support her with western union.

The evidence i did put in was the western union receipts, my phonebills showing the calls i made to her, pictures of us together when i was there, plane tickets from when i was there but the only thing i couldn't do was show prove of skype or yahoo talks because of i don't own a printer. So does this mean we will have a problem?
hello! I agree with Borntowin! Provide more proof as possible! I myself did it! as my husband is 32 years older than me. I'm 28 and he is 60.
 

Editsniper

Star Member
Oct 20, 2011
128
0
Ontario
Category........
Visa Office......
Manila
Job Offer........
Pre-Assessed..
App. Filed.......
24-10-2011
Doc's Request.
17-01-2012
File Transfer...
28-12-2011
Med's Done....
14-09-2011
Interview........
Not Needed
Passport Req..
17-01-2012 (Letter received 30-01-2012-Passport arrived CEM 10-02-2012)
VISA ISSUED...
14-03-2012
LANDED..........
soon...
as i told u guys i can't get anymore proof as i don't have access to a printer to print the yahoo/skype conversations and to print emails or such, if u read i said all i have to give is the pictures when i was there, western union receipts, plane tickets when i was there and my phonebills thats it, and when i text my wife i don't have a cellphone i use a texting program on my computer and again i DON'T have printer to print these things up
 

scylla

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Jun 8, 2010
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Buffalo
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28-05-2010
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19-08-2010
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28-06-2010
Passport Req..
01-10-2010
VISA ISSUED...
05-10-2010
LANDED..........
05-10-2010
Editsniper said:
as i told u guys i can't get anymore proof as i don't have access to a printer to print the yahoo/skype conversations and to print emails or such, if u read i said all i have to give is the pictures when i was there, western union receipts, plane tickets when i was there and my phonebills thats it, and when i text my wife i don't have a cellphone i use a texting program on my computer and again i DON'T have printer to print these things up
You can print things from an internet cafe. Either send the documents to an email address you can access from an internet cafe or put the documents on a thumb drive.
 

charmainefrances

Hero Member
Oct 24, 2011
885
106
St. Albert, Alberta
Visa Office......
CPC/VEGREVILLE TRANSFERRED TO CIC-EDMONTON
App. Filed.......
23-11-2010
File Transfer...
19-10-2011
Med's Request
12-10-2013
Med's Done....
23-10-2013 received by cic 31-10-2013
Interview........
12-09-2013 PASSED
Passport Req..
18-03-2014 PPR OF MY SON
VISA ISSUED...
10-06-2014
LANDED..........
June 24,2014 To God be the glory! PR CARD received: August 22, 2014 (exactly 60 days after landing)! Son's PR card arrived August 27, 2014 (exactly 65 days after landing)
Editsniper said:
as i told u guys i can't get anymore proof as i don't have access to a printer to print the yahoo/skype conversations and to print emails or such, if u read i said all i have to give is the pictures when i was there, western union receipts, plane tickets when i was there and my phonebills thats it, and when i text my wife i don't have a cellphone i use a texting program on my computer and again i DON'T have printer to print these things up

Well, if your confident about the documents you submitted then ok! :) it's just that you don't know what's on the VO's mind.... that is why as much as possible give more....:)
 

bilbol11

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Nov 1, 2011
272
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hi all i have interview soon so pls i need some edvice first haw i can print all my conversation in skype and msn??second in have like 1000 picters haw much i can take 3th i have so much emails too haw much i can print pls i need all edvice thnx so much
 

pelipeli

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Sep 30, 2011
1,205
61
124
Calgary Alberta CND
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Manila
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App. Filed.......
January 25, 2012
AOR Received.
none
File Transfer...
Sponsor approved: May 1,2012; file rcvd by CEM: May 8
Med's Done....
Dec 19,2011
Passport Req..
PPR date: May10, PPR rcvd: May16, PP sent: May 17 ,PP rcvd by CEM:May18
VISA ISSUED...
IP: Aug16, DM: Aug19 Visa Issue Date: August 16, 2012 Visa rcvd: Aug24
LANDED..........
September 20, 2012, PR card received Nov 23,2012
Editsniper said:
as i told u guys i can't get anymore proof as i don't have access to a printer to print the yahoo/skype conversations and to print emails or such, if u read i said all i have to give is the pictures when i was there, western union receipts, plane tickets when i was there and my phonebills thats it, and when i text my wife i don't have a cellphone i use a texting program on my computer and again i DON'T have printer to print these things up
i didnt have a printer too but we bought one just to scan and print stuff for my hubby's application. its expensive but its worth it if only to make our application stronger. we included evrything, pictures from the very start of our rel'p in 2006 up to christmas pictures a few days ago. we included many weddding photos especially showing us with all our guests. also many photos before and after wedding with family.

we've been together for all of our rel'p and its only next mnth when i will be going back to CND that we will spend a long time apart, so we dont really have chat records or emails coz we use prepaid cellphones here but i included letters and cards we give each other on special ocassions, tickets from our trips together, movie tickets, wedding receipts and supplier contracts .

i suggest that if u feel u cld show more proof, then do it. especially if u have red flags in ur situation. if u need to buy a printer just to print those skype logs then do it. it will all be worth it trust me :)
 

Editsniper

Star Member
Oct 20, 2011
128
0
Ontario
Category........
Visa Office......
Manila
Job Offer........
Pre-Assessed..
App. Filed.......
24-10-2011
Doc's Request.
17-01-2012
File Transfer...
28-12-2011
Med's Done....
14-09-2011
Interview........
Not Needed
Passport Req..
17-01-2012 (Letter received 30-01-2012-Passport arrived CEM 10-02-2012)
VISA ISSUED...
14-03-2012
LANDED..........
soon...
well for one there is a problem with the skype logs because my wife's skype is bugged somehow and i can't help her fix it because i'm not there with her to see her computer and she is not computer smart to fix it herself so when we talk on skype and put our webcam on we can only talk and not type to each other, for some reason that bug on her computer won't give her the option to type instant messages to me when we have webcams on, plus the yahoo conversations we had over a year ago are already deleted in the program as it only saves for so long before it auto-deletes them
 

sidkrose

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Apr 25, 2011
321
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Berlin
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App. Filed.......
26-07-2011
AOR Received.
24-10-2011
Med's Done....
08-07-2011
Interview........
Waived
Passport Req..
15-11-2011
VISA ISSUED...
25-11-2011
LANDED..........
10-12-2011
Editsniper said:
well for one there is a problem with the skype logs because my wife's skype is bugged somehow and i can't help her fix it because i'm not there with her to see her computer and she is not computer smart to fix it herself so when we talk on skype and put our webcam on we can only talk and not type to each other, for some reason that bug on her computer won't give her the option to type instant messages to me when we have webcams on, plus the yahoo conversations we had over a year ago are already deleted in the program as it only saves for so long before it auto-deletes them
There should still be skype history of the calls though, right? You can also put the files on a USB stick and take it to a printing shop (or just buy a printer...they are relatively inexpensive).

How about other proof, like support letter from friends and family? Proof that you have met/talk to each other's family, proof of future plans, cards from birthdays or something.
 

Elizabeth Joe

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May 3, 2011
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Berlin
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Pre-Assessed..
App. Filed.......
15-09-2011
AOR Received.
16-12-2011
File Transfer...
28-11-2011
Med's Done....
02-09-2011
VISA ISSUED...
17-02-2012
LANDED..........
24-04-2012

clubcanada

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Sep 7, 2010
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hm, no offense but this sounds a little weird...

maybe I got it a little bit wrong (so correct me): the age difference is 17 years (ok), it took you guys almost 2 years to get the papers ready for the PR (ok), during these two years you've lived apart for most part (?), you do not have $40 to buy a printer (?)
 

sidkrose

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Apr 25, 2011
321
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Canada
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Berlin
Job Offer........
Pre-Assessed..
App. Filed.......
26-07-2011
AOR Received.
24-10-2011
Med's Done....
08-07-2011
Interview........
Waived
Passport Req..
15-11-2011
VISA ISSUED...
25-11-2011
LANDED..........
10-12-2011
clubcanada said:
hm, no offense but this sounds a little weird...

maybe I got it a little bit wrong (so correct me): the age difference is 17 years (ok), it took you guys almost 2 years to get the papers ready for the PR (ok), during these two years you've lived apart for most part (?), you do not have $40 to buy a printer (?)
Lol. It takes all kinds; Maybe we should give them the benefit of the doubt.
 

rouvie

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Oct 4, 2011
97
1
I never had a printer before..Ever in my life, bUt I never regret to buy one just for my immigration paper. I'd rather spend a few bucks for a printer than pull a thousand out of my pocket because the application is refused.
 

rouvie

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Oct 4, 2011
97
1
Just a friendly reminder, if you are in Canada boxing day week still on going you can get a good deals for a printer... ;)