Process/Processing Times for Claiming Asylum/Refugee?

[Human Errer]

Even if you are able to enter Canada and file for asylum during your intake it will become clear that you aren't an actual refugee. We also have covid in Canada although the Maritimes, until recently, have been able to limit their numbers. It is unclear if you have health issues which makes you more concerned about covid. If so, this isn't a time where it is easy to access the medical system, get appointments especially with specialists. In good times it could take months but with the extra delays due to covid anything medical is severely delayed. Are you not able to quarantine yourself in the US? Are you able to support yourself in Canada?

I definitely have serious health issues which put me in a much higher risk of experiencing life-threatening complications if I contract covid. I live on 5 acres in a remote, rural area just a few hours South of the border, in NH. So, yes, I can sort of quarantine.

The problem is that most people who live in rural areas like this are of the opinion that the coronavirus is a “hoax,” and act as though there *is* no pandemic. In fact, I get nasty looks at the grocery store because I’m wearing a mask when I go food shopping every few weeks, which is generally the only time I ever leave the property nowadays.

I do have an income (~$900 USD/mo SSDI), and I am capable of finding ways to support myself without too much trouble, as I am very entrepreneurial and creative. I have 20+ years in the foodservice industry and an associate’s degree in Business Administration. I’m confident that I can get by just as I do here.

 

[vagonbrei]

Yes, I understand what the IRPA says. Unfortunately, because of the pandemic, the process to obtain your citizenship certificate also takes years, from what I understand, unless they approve you for “urgent processing,” which I understand also takes a long time. I may not have that much time. I feel like I have been lucky to escape getting infected with all the people around me who not only refuse to wear masks or practice social distancing, but sometimes passive-aggressively invade others’ space specifically to “prove” to them that “the virus is a hoax.” I have a legitimate fear that I will not survive if I get the virus, and I’d much rather live in a country with a government that takes the virus seriously.

It’s my understanding that it is a violation of international law for a country to just eject someone who presents themselves at a POE and requests asylum/refugee status out of hand. Are people not entitled to judicial review of their claim in Canada? (I know - the US has been turning people away at the Southern border for a while under Trump, but his administration doesn’t care about laws they don’t like, and who’s going to stop them, right? )

To answer your question. It is not a violation of international law and no you cannot JR the decision. Your claim would begin the process. You would be directed to return to the United States and be given an appointment date and time to come back for the processing of your application. Just like your president is doing at the US-Mexico border. Your claim will be processed.... when the restrictions are lifted.

Covid is not a sufficient basis for a refugee claim. Please don't waste the system's time with this nonsense. There are actually people who need Canada's protection for legitimate reasons.

If you believe you are a Canadian citizen, obtain your documents, obtain legal counsel, and submit your application. It will take time. Everything does.

 

[Human Errer]

To answer your question. It is not a violation of international law and no you cannot JR the decision. Your claim would begin the process. You would be directed to return to the United States and be given an appointment date and time to come back for the processing of your application. Just like your president is doing at the US-Mexico border. Your claim will be processed.... when the restrictions are lifted.

Covid is not a sufficient basis for a refugee claim. Please don't waste the system's time with this nonsense. There are actually people who need Canada's protection for legitimate reasons.

If you believe you are a Canadian citizen, obtain your documents, obtain legal counsel, and submit your application. It will take time. Everything does.

Actually, Canadian courts have stated that the policy of returning refugees and asylum seekers to the United States *IS* illegal. https://www.cbc.ca/news/politics/safe-third-country-agreement-court-1.5658785

It is *not* illegal to apply for asylum/RS, and you do *not* know everything about my particular situation, so stop acting like you do. I will do whatever I feel is necessary to protect myself, just as you would do for yourself and your family.

I’m done with this forum. I have seen almost nothing but negativity and discouragement from people here. You people should all be ashamed of yourselves, and I hope I find more decent human beings in Canada wherever I end up.

 

[vagonbrei]

Actually, Canadian courts have stated that the policy of returning refugees and asylum seekers to the United States *IS* illegal. https://www.cbc.ca/news/politics/safe-third-country-agreement-court-1.5658785

It is *not* illegal to apply for asylum/RS, and you do *not* know everything about my particular situation, so stop acting like you do. I will do whatever I feel is necessary to protect myself, just as you would do for yourself and your family.

I’m done with this forum. I have seen almost nothing but negativity and discouragement from people here. You people should all be ashamed of yourselves, and I hope I find more decent human beings in Canada wherever I end up.

You are correct that the federal court ruled that the safe 3rd country agreement was unconstitutional and struck it down. However if you do your research instead of quickly trying to snap back at my statement you will see that the federal court suspended its determination for 6 months. This means that the agreement is still in place. Furthermore the federal court of appeal accepted the minister's application to Allow those agreement to remain in place until their appeal was heard in February of 2021.

As we have explained to you currently there are restrictions in place namely the orders in council travel restrictions which prevent foreign nationals from entering Canada to seek asylum.

You are correct you can do whatever you want and as we have already said based on the information you have provided you do not meet the definition of section 96 or 97 of the immigration and refugee protection act.

 

[Jonus89]

Hello, it's still unclear for me what's happening with the foreigners that arrive in Canada by plane (from Europe) and ask for Asylum at the airport..

 

[vagonbrei]

If they arrive from Europe by plane, their claim will be processed upon arrival.

 

[canuck78]

Hello, it's still unclear for me what's happening with the foreigners that arrive in Canada by plane (from Europe) and ask for Asylum at the airport..

There are very few asylum seekers arriving because you must meet the travel exemption in order to travel to Canada.

 

[canuck78]

I definitely have serious health issues which put me in a much higher risk of experiencing life-threatening complications if I contract covid. I live on 5 acres in a remote, rural area just a few hours South of the border, in NH. So, yes, I can sort of quarantine.

The problem is that most people who live in rural areas like this are of the opinion that the coronavirus is a “hoax,” and act as though there *is* no pandemic. In fact, I get nasty looks at the grocery store because I’m wearing a mask when I go food shopping every few weeks, which is generally the only time I ever leave the property nowadays.

I do have an income (~$900 USD/mo SSDI), and I am capable of finding ways to support myself without too much trouble, as I am very entrepreneurial and creative. I have 20+ years in the foodservice industry and an associate’s degree in Business Administration. I’m confident that I can get by just as I do here.

There are antimaskers in Canada as well. Stay at home and remain in quarantine. All your plans to try and claim asylum in Canada put you at higher risk of being exposed to covid.