Procedural Fairness Letter / PFL

[Tamaupogi]

I'm not sure Canada would reach out to a US official. I'm really not sure. My thinking is that most likely they compare your response against whatever information the US has already provided / what the US records show and make a decision based on that.

Yes, I've seen a few cases where people received PLFs after approvals (including PR in some cases). It really doesn't matter when the PFL is received in my opinion. What matters is the nature of the issue(s) in the PFL and how this is addressed by the applicant.

Thanks a lot scylla, now I have a course of action (ordering notes/records). Your help and perspective really mean a lot. I will update you with what these mention. I hope I can also bring you news very soon that it has all been resolved.

 

[scylla]

Thanks a lot scylla, now I have a course of action (ordering notes/records). Your help and perspective really mean a lot. I will update you with what these mention. I hope I can also bring you news very soon that it has all been resolved.

Good luck! Hopefully you have a positive answer soon.

 

[RonyJohny]

You can order GCMS notes from outside of Canada. You do not have to be in Canada. You just cannot order them from IRCC directly and have to go through one of the websites that provides this service.

I used gcmsapply.com multiple times and always received with in 20 to 30 days. And they are really good, charges around $6. I got their reference from here in some other threads.

 

[Tamaupogi]

I used gcmsapply.com multiple times and always received with in 20 to 30 days. And they are really good, charges around $6. I got their reference from here in some other threads.

Thanks Rony, I will consider that as my option.

 

[Tamaupogi]

Good luck! Hopefully you have a positive answer soon.

Hello again scylla, I now ordered the GCMS and will later order the US records, but I forgot to ask you something else. Do you know how other PFL users were notified of approval when they were already approved before (my study permit was issued on August 2022 and PFL was January 2023)? I have seen other PFL successes who got PPR or BVL when they convinced the officer, but they received the PFL before ever being approved.

 

[scylla]

Hello again scylla, I now ordered the GCMS and will later order the US records, but I forgot to ask you something else. Do you know how other PFL users were notified of approval when they were already approved before (my study permit was issued on August 2022 and PFL was January 2023)? I have seen other PFL successes who got PPR or BVL when they convinced the officer, but they received the PFL before ever being approved.

No, I don't remember.

 

[Tamaupogi]

No, I don't remember.

Thanks a lot. Have a great week!

 

[Tamaupogi]

@scylla

Hello again scylla, I need your help. To do a quick recap in case you don't remember my case very well, I received a PFL months after my study permit had already been issued, due to allegations that I overstayed in the US. I ordered the GCMS notes (as you suggested me) and they have arrived. Now I have a new concern: the very beginning of the notes says:

Update Date: 2022/12/08
App Status: Closed
App Status Reason: Approved

More data mentions:

ASSESSMENTS
Elegibility: Passed
Final: Approved

This only concerns me since it clearly shows the permit as being approved. Do you think this might mean my case has been treated as closed? PFLs usually come before issuance, but my PFL came after. Many thanks!

 

[scylla]

@scylla

Hello again scylla, I need your help. To do a quick recap in case you don't remember my case very well, I received a PFL months after my study permit had already been issued, due to allegations that I overstayed in the US. I ordered the GCMS notes (as you suggested me) and they have arrived. Now I have a new concern: the very beginning of the notes says:

Update Date: 2022/12/08
App Status: Closed
App Status Reason: Approved

More data mentions:

ASSESSMENTS
Elegibility: Passed
Final: Approved

This only concerns me since it clearly shows the permit as being approved. Do you think this might mean my case has been treated as closed? PFLs usually come before issuance, but my PFL came after. Many thanks!

I don't know. Your case is very unusual since the PFL came after the study permit had been approved. I think you would be best off speaking with an immigration lawyer. Your situation is very unique.

 

[Tamaupogi]

I don't know. Your case is very unusual since the PFL came after the study permit had been approved. I think you would be best off speaking with an immigration lawyer. Your situation is very unique.

Would you suggest also sending an email to my Embassy and letting them know about this issue? Or is that greedy behavior and might not be well received? I think I will get in touch with an immigration lawyer too.

 

[scylla]

Would you suggest also sending an email to my Embassy and letting them know about this issue? Or is that greedy behavior and might not be well received? I think I will get in touch with an immigration lawyer too.

Sorry, I don't understand your comment about the Embassy. What situation?

If you want to send a weform, that would be to the visa office.

 

[Tamaupogi]

Sorry, I don't understand your comment about the Embassy. What situation?

If you want to send a weform, that would be to the visa office.

My bad, I meant sending an email/webform to the visa office handling my case, telling them that my application seems to be closed while I am waiting for a response to my case.

 

[scylla]

My bad, I meant sending an email/webform to the visa office handling my case, telling them that my application seems to be closed while I am waiting for a response to my case.

Sure, you can certainly do that.

 

[Tamaupogi]

Sure, you can certainly do that.

Thanks for your advice!

 

[SasaBasi]

Following this thread and it seems Canada visa office gave you such a hard time. I hope things work out for you.