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Procedural Fairness Letter- JO is not Genuine

scylla

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He sent it already & the officer not satisfied. Ok I will prepare the letter with strong possibility but it seems doesn't matter:(
The answers provided were insufficient to address the officer's concerns, as explained in the PFL.

Does the child have a full time caregiver now?
 
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Naturgrl

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He sent it already & the officer not satisfied. Ok I will prepare the letter with strong possibility but it seems doesn't matter:(
Need to answer all the questions again to respond to PFL and explain what full-time child has right now, in the past few years and what is required in the future. Given teen is no longer a minor, expect refusal.
 
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canuck78

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:'( :( .Thank you so much for your time @Naturgrl & @scylla .
This seems like an attempt to sponsor a family member not a true need for a caregiver which is why you were denied. An able bodied child who has been able to pursue post secondary education would have never qualified for a caregiver. It’s unfortunate that you and your family members decided to pursue this application when mild ADHD would have never been a valid reason for needing a full-time caregiver and expense associated. If you have a history caring for children and meet the qualifications you need to find a family with young children who have an income and enough disposable income to pay a full-time caregiver.
 
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roye

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The child turning 18y/o this month, and he has mild ADHD. The employer explained why they needed CG.
I think that if a client has a health issue, and considering the age, this might fall under Home Support Worker. Just a thought? And if indeed, it has to be supported with Doctor's note to prove it?
 

Babe1602

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This seems like an attempt to sponsor a family member not a true need for a caregiver which is why you were denied. An able bodied child who has been able to pursue post secondary education would have never qualified for a caregiver. It’s unfortunate that you and your family members decided to pursue this application when mild ADHD would have never been a valid reason for needing a full-time caregiver and expense associated. If you have a history caring for children and meet the qualifications you need to find a family with young children who have an income and enough disposable income to pay a full-time caregiver.
:(
 

Babe1602

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I think that if a client has a health issue, and considering the age, this might fall under Home Support Worker. Just a thought? And if indeed, it has to be supported with Doctor's note to prove it?
What is a Doctor's note? my employer submitted the long form Birth Cert only.
 

Naturgrl

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What is a Doctor's note? my employer submitted the long form Birth Cert only.
The child is no longer a minor, and not eligible for HCCP. The employer applied for full-time care but child goes to school and will be going to post secondary. What did the parent show (psychological assessments, doctor’s notes, community living support) that the child needs full time care? What full-time care has the young adult had over the years? So employer would have shown that child could not care for herself or be alone after school so goes to a community living program, as an example. Or shows that she has one on one support at school. If going to college, then she can live independently.
 
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roye

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The child is no longer a minor, and not eligible for HCCP. The employer applied for full-time care but child goes to school and will be going to post secondary. What did the parent show (psychological assessments, doctor’s notes, community living support) that the child needs full time care? What full-time care has the young adult had over the years? So employer would have shown that child could not care for herself or be alone after school so goes to a community living program, as an example. Or shows that she has one on one support at school. If going to college, then she can live independently.
I guess, this is the best reply to this situation. I absolutely agree!
 

canuck78

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I think that if a client has a health issue, and considering the age, this might fall under Home Support Worker. Just a thought? And if indeed, it has to be supported with Doctor's note to prove it?
Mild ADHD is not typically a condition that requires full-time care. It sounds as though this was an attempt to sponsor a family member not really a need to get full-time care. Would assume that this family did not have a full-time caregiver for the individual while they were waiting for the outcome of the application.
 
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Haert

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What is a Doctor's note? my employer submitted the long form Birth Cert only.
Just look for a new employer asap under the same NOC. Otherwise, anticipate a refusal.
 

Babe1602

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The child is no longer a minor, and not eligible for HCCP. The employer applied for full-time care but child goes to school and will be going to post secondary. What did the parent show (psychological assessments, doctor’s notes, community living support) that the child needs full time care? What full-time care has the young adult had over the years? So employer would have shown that child could not care for herself or be alone after school so goes to a community living program, as an example. Or shows that she has one on one support at school. If going to college, then she can live independently.
are this ok under NOC?
 

Babe1602

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Not really because no longer a minor. Just telling you what should be included if your employer wants to continue and try to prove the need for full time care of child about to go to college.
Thank you. How about for new employer, yes or no?