probably a very complicated family sponsorship matter..plz advise

[Leon]

You need a lawyer. This case is far too tricky for us regular folks and it is absolutely crucial that you do not make any mistakes at this point. If you choose to not mention the fake passport, you will have to explain how you managed to get to Canada. If you leave and pretend you were never in Canada, then you will have to explain how you met your wife, how you got married and how she got pregnant. You would also have to fake yourself a new past, where you've lived and worked since 2008. If they check up and find that you lied, you might have more problems having lied to them than you would have had if you told the truth.

I do not know how serious of an offence it is to have used a fake passport but this I know, you will need a lawyer for this.

 

[Black-Berry]

Also... if you do decide to leave Canada and she is legally your wife??. if you married a Canadian wife in Canada than you must have got a canadian marriage license??. Your strongest ties to your wife are in canada and either way you have to explain how you have a marriage license in Canada. Unless.. you start from scratch.... have a civil ceremony in your home country and pretend Canada NEVER EVER happened???You need to think and re-think what you want to do. If you tell thje truth you risk jail time and/or deportation. you may not get it. You will need a good lawyer to advise you.
How wil lyou explain how you got in Canada?. you say u have a new passport??. How can you fly on a passport thats clean??. how do you explain never travelled yet you are in canada??. AIyyaaaiiyyaaiiyyayaa. you do have a complicated case!. i suggest you come clean and appeal it. If you lie... It may come back to haunt you one day...

 

[iarblue]

Your best choice is leave.Go tot a safe country,with or without your wife get a visa or entry into the country legally and apply outland.
You will stil have to explain how you ended up in Canada,be honest tell them you came in illegaly and then decided to leave on your own and apply outland.If they send you out then it will be worse leave on your own and it wont be so bad.
If you stay and try you can be almost certain they will send you packing out of Canada married or not.
Many people come here ilegal and leave and still get PR,but if they have to send you then you will most likely never get it.Or it will be years before you do.

 

[Black-Berry]

Just wanted to add.. when your wife sponsors you, they pick your life for the past ten years.. What you did... where you worked, you need to provide adresses and places of employment. you need to provide police clearance for all gthe countries you lived in after you turned 18. My hubby sponsored me and i had to provide the IO with as much information as possible including wedding photos. basically i had to leave no room for doubt regarding our marriage and relationship and i needed to provide as much documentation to prove this!..
Another option.. leave with your canadian wife and baby when its born...... go to your country....apply for a multiple entry visa, (keep in mind you need to provide proof that you have strong social economic ties to your country ie a job..property or dependant children etc if choosing this option) . Say you are coming to canada on holiday..... You might.. you might not get it. If you do....come in and leave...... Establish a legit relationship ie.. keep flight tickets., keep telephone records, keep a papertrail that you cn provide to immigration to prove your relationship.
i am not encouraging you to lie abt it because as i said , the IO can catch a lie or when you have missing gaps of parts of your life they raise red flags..

As other people suggest.. i think your only way is to go to a lawyer.. spend some money come clean and let them advise you.. Good Luck.
Whichcountry did you say you were from again??

 

[Lamont]

Thank you everyone
I have been through the forum; just to make my own search and learn from others’ experience.
Originally I am from Iraq. I am not sure of how many Iraqis are in this forum. I found one member who can be in the same boat as I am, right now. Saskatoon thread is the nearest. But, there was no update for long time.
In the normal circumstances, we used to be one of the peaceful countries and one of the wealthiest. We then did not need to immigrate or to do what I did. My country has turned into a total “WRECK”. My country was invaded by some war criminals. We woke up on bombs, bodies scattered all over, land mines...and sky full of hell. There are millions of refugees all over the world from our Iraqis right now. Those who invaded my country have been selective. They destroyed the country and then selected whom they wanted to move to serve the invaders’ land. Those selected were the one who got passports. Majority of Iraqis had to flee with their life on their hand.....without even having the chance to get passports....I am one. It was a journey from hell. Through mountains to Turkey. From Turkey into back of trucks into Europe. We could have died several times in one go. We worked there as slaves for pocket money. A journey from HELL.The money we got there was paid to gangs who created false passports. Ethically it is wrong..But ethically the invasion of Iraq, based n lies, is a crime against humanity too.
Sadly, my country will remain a total WRECK for the next century.
I could not have better choice. Certainly I am more educated than someone like G W Bush. I am not criminal. My wife is Iraqi too but Cnd citizen...she came at the invasion time and settled.
What else I can say. You can ask and I will try to answer

 

[SimpleMan]

I am very sorry to hear your story. I wish you all the best man.

The best advice is to hire a good lawyer and I hope things work out for you.

 

[Black-Berry]

Thank you everyone
I have been through the forum; just to make my own search and learn from others' experience.
Originally I am from Iraq. I am not sure of how many Iraqis are in this forum. I found one member who can be in the same boat as I am, right now. Saskatoon thread is the nearest. But, there was no update for long time.
In the normal circumstances, we used to be one of the peaceful countries and one of the wealthiest. We then did not need to immigrate or to do what I did. My country has turned into a total “WRECK”. My country was invaded by some war criminals. We woke up on bombs, bodies scattered all over, land mines...and sky full of hell. There are millions of refugees all over the world from our Iraqis right now. Those who invaded my country have been selective. They destroyed the country and then selected whom they wanted to move to serve the invaders' land. Those selected were the one who got passports. Majority of Iraqis had to flee with their life on their hand.....without even having the chance to get passports....I am one. It was a journey from hell. Through mountains to Turkey. From Turkey into back of trucks into Europe. We could have died several times in one go. We worked there as slaves for pocket money. A journey from HELL.The money we got there was paid to gangs who created false passports. Ethically it is wrong..But ethically the invasion of Iraq, based n lies, is a crime against humanity too.
Sadly, my country will remain a total WRECK for the next century.
I could not have better choice. Certainly I am more educated than someone like G W Bush. I am not criminal. My wife is Iraqi too but Cnd citizen...she came at the invasion time and settled.
What else I can say. You can ask and I will try to answer

Lamont, I am glad you posted your story because its a passionately sad story!.Also this definitely changes everything. Your story is sad. Can you apply under a refugee claim?. maybe you need to come clean to an MP or someone big explain the whole truth, how you had to flee your country. Surely am sure there is someone out there who has a solution?,. Maybe you have alot of money maybe you dont but can you hire a good lawyer also? A good immigration lawyer may help you. I think if you had to leave your country for your own life and safety issues immigration may be abit lenient to your case?. Am just saying.. Its not like you left to come here for fraud. the fact that you have a wife and a child on the way shws your heart is in the right place. the fact that you want your sad past behind you can show an IO that you are genuine..
I DO wish you the best in whatever the outcome. Let us know how it goes and if you succeed. I think we can give advice uuntill we are blue in the face but at the end of the day you have to do what is best for you and your family.

Im sorry man..
WIsh you all the best...

 

[scylla]

Lamont,

Thanks for sharing your story. I agree that there must be something that can be done for situations such as yours. Maybe an H&C application? I also agree that a good lawyer is probably the way to go given the complications of your case.

What city/province are you located in right now? Maybe someone here can give you a recommendation?

Please keep us updated and good luck! You should write a book when this is all over with. You have quite the story to tell...

 

[zsashimi]

Lamont,

It is best to consult lawyers regarding your case. I do understand that there circumstances where we do extreme things for survival.

Good luck and pray to God that whoever will handle your case will be a lot more compasionate.

 

[Lamont]

Thank you everyone, again and again

I feel comfortable in this forum, thanks for scylla. Hostility and attacks were what I got from the other forum.
I am just NOT sure if it is safe to disclose where I am right now (city-province-etc).
I talked to the Legal Aid people here. It seems that I am not qualified (I do not have money of course...but because of my current status).
Lawyers are too expensive. I can't afford

 

[canadianwoman]

CIC will not deport you back to Iraq right now.
So it seems applying outland won't work, so try applying inland. Even if refused, you can still stay with your wife and child for the processing time. Meanwhile, your best chance seems to be with a H & C application. To win this, you need close ties to your family and close ties to the community. So becoming involved in your religious organizations (if any), doing volunteer work, and getting any other close ties to the community will help.
Good luck.

 

[angelbrat]

Why not try the Iraq community?

Surely, there will be many people whom have had experiences like yours or have relatives with similar stories. There will probably be a lawyer amongst the community whom would be willing to help you.

If all you say can be proven, then I am sure that CIC will look upon your case as a H & C application. People coming to Canada as refugees, have been granted their PR with far less controversy in their lives than you have.

I wish you all the best and wish I had something a little more positive to offer you.

 

[locolynn]

i suggested in your other thread you contact your embassy, that was before i read your story. with the new info i would suggest getting in touch with a community angency that specializes in refugee issues. if you are in toronto try 211toronto.ca. that is a great site for community resources. incha'allah you will find the help you need.

lynn

 

[Lamont]

i suggested in your other thread you contact your embassy, that was before i read your story. with the new info i would suggest getting in touch with a community angency that specializes in refugee issues. if you are in toronto try 211toronto.ca. that is a great site for community resources. incha'allah you will find the help you need.

lynn

Thank you.

Sorry, I thought a new thread my appear fresh and less depressive. I tried to copy and paste the old thread (this one) in my new entry but it bounced back saying "links are not allowed in this forum".
Of course I have been searching, consulting and seeking every advice with my community and others. The conclusion is that :the best and safest way forward is to leave Canada and apply outland. I am working on how can I reach my destination and then apply from there. Unfortunately Canada is far away and one has to cross USA or Europe before we can arrive home.

 

[Leon]

I am not convinced that it would be better for you to leave Canada right now. It might actually be a mistake. Sometimes it is better to stay and apply under H&C inspite of your illegal status. You really should talk to a lawyer before you do anything.