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PR VISA REFUSED

Stumpedmom

Hero Member
Sep 16, 2010
541
14
Category........
Visa Office......
Buffalo
Job Offer........
Pre-Assessed..
App. Filed.......
22/03/2011 Receivd CPC-M
AOR Received.
16/06/2011
File Transfer...
06/05/2011 Received in Buffalo, 06/2011 to Los Angeles
Med's Done....
12/10/2010
Interview........
waived...obviously cuz we got the PPR
Passport Req..
16/8/2011
VISA ISSUED...
24/8/2011 in our hands 8/29/2011
LANDED..........
3/9/2011
inflex said:
Quite a bold statement you made there. I don't know the embassy you dealt with but the ones located in some developing countries will still invite you for an interview no matter how convincing your documents and pictures are resulting in unnecessary delay.
Not necessarily, the only reason you should be called for an interview is to clarify any information in your application whether it be about the marriage or about past history. The fact that during the interview the interviewer stated that OP did not know enough about the sponsors history and of how they met, then if it was about the marriage like it seems to me, then there was not enough information and OP still had issues confirming information that was or was not included in the applicaion. If you provide enough information to prove that you have a genuine relationship, and did not marry for immigration reasons, even that your family knows of and supports your marriage, you may not be called for an interview no matter what VO you go through. It is OUR responsibility as applicants and sponsors to PROVE to them that we are in genuine relationships.

The OP stated...are they going to contact the sponsor...that sounds like a weird question, because I know if my spouse was refused the first phone call he would have made was to me his sponsor, to find out what to do next, and to let me know that he was refused...why would OP wonder if CIC would contact his sponsor again, even if the refusal paperwork was sent to OP they could send it to the sponsor...
 

Indigo

Hero Member
Oct 22, 2011
269
4
Canada
Category........
Visa Office......
Berlin, Germany
Job Offer........
Pre-Assessed..
App. Filed.......
21-09-2011
AOR Received.
05-01-2012
File Transfer...
25-11-2011
Med's Done....
26-08-2011
Interview........
N/A
Passport Req..
N/A
VISA ISSUED...
20-01-2012 (COPR)
LANDED..........
22-01-2012
If it was me, I would like to know who they're gonna contact. But hey, I'm scared sh*tless to miss a CIC email because it somehow manages to end up in my spam folder!


I think OP should get the chance to explain himself...
 

Stumpedmom

Hero Member
Sep 16, 2010
541
14
Category........
Visa Office......
Buffalo
Job Offer........
Pre-Assessed..
App. Filed.......
22/03/2011 Receivd CPC-M
AOR Received.
16/06/2011
File Transfer...
06/05/2011 Received in Buffalo, 06/2011 to Los Angeles
Med's Done....
12/10/2010
Interview........
waived...obviously cuz we got the PPR
Passport Req..
16/8/2011
VISA ISSUED...
24/8/2011 in our hands 8/29/2011
LANDED..........
3/9/2011
Indigo said:
If it was me, I would like to know who they're gonna contact. But hey, I'm scared sh*tless to miss a CIC email because it somehow manages to end up in my spam folder!


I think OP should get the chance to explain himself...
Completely agree with you. The OP needs to explain a little more about why it was refused. They need to start the process for ordering the GCMS notes as stated earlier to find out EXACTLY why the visa was refused so they can gather all the information to disprove the VO`s reasons for refusing the application. The OP states that the interviewer was not confident about the OPs knoweldge about the spouses history and the way of meeting each other, this does lead to MOC questions. The OP also was very defensive about the way the interviewer was asking the questions, and what they were asking...they need to ask the questions to get you to prove your relationship is real.
 

inflex

Full Member
Jun 30, 2011
29
1
Stumpedmom said:
Not necessarily, the only reason you should be called for an interview is to clarify any information in your application whether it be about the marriage or about past history. The fact that during the interview the interviewer stated that OP did not know enough about the sponsors history and of how they met, then if it was about the marriage like it seems to me, then there was not enough information and OP still had issues confirming information that was or was not included in the applicaion. If you provide enough information to prove that you have a genuine relationship, and did not marry for immigration reasons, even that your family knows of and supports your marriage, you may not be called for an interview no matter what VO you go through. It is OUR responsibility as applicants and sponsors to PROVE to them that we are in genuine relationships.

The OP stated...are they going to contact the sponsor...that sounds like a weird question, because I know if my spouse was refused the first phone call he would have made was to me his sponsor, to find out what to do next, and to let me know that he was refused...why would OP wonder if CIC would contact his sponsor again, even if the refusal paperwork was sent to OP they could send it to the sponsor...
Accra is a prime example of this. I've never heard of anyone going through that embassy without an interview and that include the applicants with short timelines. Many Accra applicants are in this forum.
 

toby

Champion Member
Sep 29, 2009
1,671
105
Category........
Visa Office......
Hong Kong
Job Offer........
Pre-Assessed..
App. Filed.......
November 2009
Med's Done....
October 2009 and 15 April 2011
Interview........
4 April 2011
Passport Req..
4 April 2011
VISA ISSUED...
7 July 2011
LANDED..........
15 July 2011
It has been said in this thread and several others that an interview is called only to clarify details on the application. Not so in my experience. An interview may be called to examine – with the applicant and/or sponsor in the room -- concerns about the relationship that the VO who analyzed the application had. That VO then indicates that an interview should be called, and passes the file to a different VO who will conduct the interview (much later).

At my wife’s interview the VO explored the differences between us (education, age and culture mainly), asked her what she would do if the visa were denied, and where she would live if we were to separate after moving to Canada.

Pretty transparent questions, with predictable answers, so nothing gained by the interview that I could see plainly. Therefore I deduce that there must be a different purpose to the interview than merely challenging the applicant, or clarifying documents in the application. I conclude that the interview-VO wants to see facial expressions, and body language that the document-VO cannot see.

After the interview, after the VO had said that we were a legitimate couple and the visa would be granted, I asked what we could have added to our application to convince the document-VO about our relationship, and preclude the need for an interview.

He had no answer, but speculated that it was because we had been married only 9 months when we submitted the application, implying that if we had been married longer (we had been married for 27 months by the time of the interview), an interview would not have been considered necessary.

He was in a hurry to go the next interview, and so I had to let him go. But it occurs to me that if his speculation was correct, then all the Hong Kong consulate had to do was confirm with us that we were still married, two weeks before the interview, and then -- with this proof of our continuing relationship in hand -- call off the interview. (There are several ways to prove this; the easiest would be for Hong Kong to call several times at random, speak to both of us, and conclude that we were living together.)

Having an interview is costly for the applicant and for the embassy or consulate too. Why not save the time and expense?
 

rouvie

Star Member
Oct 4, 2011
97
1
inflex said:
Quite a bold statement you made there. I don't know the embassy you dealt with but the ones located in some developing countries will still invite you for an interview no matter how convincing your documents and pictures are resulting in unnecessary delay.

Don't get me wrong but this is actually the first time i heared this info. "Usually" they call you for an interview to clarify stuff about the relationship of the sponsor and the principal applicant. or like the other member have said is the history of the relationship and sometimes regarding a previous marriage before they met. another thing that they will call for an interview is the background of the applicant, but they usually do it on the phone. obviously they call him for an interview regarding their relationship. i'm not trying to put somebody down here. i'm just tryn to give encouragement to do something before its too late. my statement might look intimidating to others but i'm just straight up to what i want to say, because i'm not a big fan of people who gives up easily. I believe if you want to succeed in something you have to have a back-up plan before you do it just in case you fall in your way to get there..
 

locolynn

Hero Member
May 19, 2008
412
16
Category........
Visa Office......
Rabat
Job Offer........
Pre-Assessed..
App. Filed.......
24-04-07
AOR Received.
08-06-07
Interview........
06-12-07/09-24-08/09-27-11
inflex said:
Quite a bold statement you made there. I don't know the embassy you dealt with but the ones located in some developing countries will still invite you for an interview no matter how convincing your documents and pictures are resulting in unnecessary delay.
Thank you. I was juuuuust about to say the same thing - maybe not quite as kindly. ;)
 

rouvie

Star Member
Oct 4, 2011
97
1
To theicon,

They will refund your Right of permanent resident fee even if you don't inform them...

Good Luck to your appeal......
 

Mrs. Turan

Hero Member
Mar 11, 2010
211
13
Vancouver Island, Canada
Category........
Visa Office......
The Canadian Embassy, Ankara, Turkey
Job Offer........
Pre-Assessed..
App. Filed.......
05-03-2010
File Transfer...
06-05-2010
Med's Request
29-07-2011
Med's Done....
20-08-2011
Interview........
23-06-2010
Passport Req..
09-11-2011
VISA ISSUED...
18-11-2011
LANDED..........
25-12-2011
I'm sure you're still in shock about your PR refusal. I'm sorry!!!!! It's a terrible feeling, I don't wish it
on any sincere legitimate couple, trying to be together. My advice to you and your spouse--be kind to
each other. Try not to play the blame game. You have a bit of a long haul ahead of you. I hope you can
be together at this time. I encourage you to appeal, and I wish you the best on this. I had my appeal
hearing in 8 months after my husbands refusal. I don't think there's any hard rule, just try to be proactive
with your case. It might come sooner than you think. Keep on it.