PR Renewal

[Yolka]

Your case illustrates why the subtleties of citizenship and PR card process and policy are important. When people's lives are involved, these subtle points of policy can have huge effect.

Separating spouses from one another and children from their parents for untold months should not be a requirement of a humane immigration system.

This is another reason why the record citizenship processing delays are important. I encourage your husband to write a letter to his MP explaining the citizenship delay is effecting him (as a citizen), his children (as citizens) and his wife (longtime PR). The citizenship delays do not just affect immigrants, they effect Canadian families, Canadian workplaces & Canadian lives. Citizenship rights are not just about immigrants rights, but the rights of Canadian citizens to keep their families together.
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I Agree, fair enough!

 

[Suin]

You may apply for it as early as 6 months before it expires but not before that. As for how late you can apply, no limit. You can let it expire and apply later but then you may have problems travelling to Canada if you do not have a valid card.

Thank you for your reply, Leon. Will I be able to travel with my old card while waiting for a new one to arrive?

 

[Yolka]

If your PR card is still valid when you apply, you do not have to send it with your application.

I see, I think I will do as you said. Will apply 6 months before it expires! I hope it won't cause any complications, especially with my citizenship.

 

[OKK]

I see, I think I will do as you said. Will apply 6 months before it expires! I hope it won't cause any complications, especially with my citizenship.

Lets hope and pray next week you get your test date and all goes well for you...that will save you all this pain.

 

[Yolka]

Lets hope and pray next week you get your test date and all goes well for you...that will save you all this pain.

Yeah, I wish . Thank you OKK, and good luck with your Oath ..

 

[OKK]

Yeah, I wish . Thank you OKK, and good luck with your Oath ..

Thank You hopefully soon

 

[torontosm]

Separating spouses from one another and children from their parents for untold months should not be a requirement of a humane immigration system.

Consistently living outside a country that you have "immigrated" to and claim to be a "permanent resident" of shouldn't be tolerated under a humane immigration system either. Just my opinion.

 

[OKK]

Consistently living outside a country that you have "immigrated" to and claim to be a "permanent resident" of shouldn't be tolerated under a humane immigration system either. Just my opinion.

Different people have different priorities and priorities change with time

 

[eileenf]

Consistently living outside a country that you have "immigrated" to and claim to be a "permanent resident" of shouldn't be tolerated under a humane immigration system either. Just my opinion.

As with many things, the Devil is in the details.
Humane systems (including Canada's, in this case) recognize complexity.

 

[Leon]

Consistently living outside a country that you have "immigrated" to and claim to be a "permanent resident" of shouldn't be tolerated under a humane immigration system either. Just my opinion.

IMO it's a bit different when one spouse is Canadian. PR sponsorship is the only option given to spouses of Canadians. Spouses who are not visa exempt are routinely refused visit visas and other temporary permits to Canada based on risk of overstay.

After having sponsored the spouse for PR, the situation can change. It may be the Canadian spouse who gets a job overseas and wants to move. According to immigration rules, there is no limit how long the PR spouse can keep their PR while living outside Canada as long as they are living with their Canadian partner.

My opinion is that if they are allowed to keep their PR forever while living outside Canada, it should also be made easier for them to renew their PR cards.

 

[OKK]

IMO it's a bit different when one spouse is Canadian. PR sponsorship is the only option given to spouses of Canadians. Spouses who are not visa exempt are routinely refused visit visas and other temporary permits to Canada based on risk of overstay.

After having sponsored the spouse for PR, the situation can change. It may be the Canadian spouse who gets a job overseas and wants to move. According to immigration rules, there is no limit how long the PR spouse can keep their PR while living outside Canada as long as they are living with their Canadian partner.

My opinion is that if they are allowed to keep their PR forever while living outside Canada, it should also be made easier for them to renew their PR cards.

Agreed

 

[torontosm]

IMO it's a bit different when one spouse is Canadian. PR sponsorship is the only option given to spouses of Canadians. Spouses who are not visa exempt are routinely refused visit visas and other temporary permits to Canada based on risk of overstay.

After having sponsored the spouse for PR, the situation can change. It may be the Canadian spouse who gets a job overseas and wants to move. According to immigration rules, there is no limit how long the PR spouse can keep their PR while living outside Canada as long as they are living with their Canadian partner.

My opinion is that if they are allowed to keep their PR forever while living outside Canada, it should also be made easier for them to renew their PR cards.

I think that's fair enough. However, Leon, given the number of queries you respond to on a daily basis, I'm sure you appreciate that most of the people on this forum are not in such a situation. Instead, they are permanently residing overseas and maintaining their PR as a "safety net" for the future (or in case they need free healthcare, subsidized education, etc.).

 

[OKK]

Yes i agree there are few people out there who use this as a future security for their own personal benefits but NOT everyone in the same boat like i said before and i will say it again priorities/life situations changes with time and some people just have to live by those changes.

 

[Leon]

I think that's fair enough. However, Leon, given the number of queries you respond to on a daily basis, I'm sure you appreciate that most of the people on this forum are not in such a situation. Instead, they are permanently residing overseas and maintaining their PR as a "safety net" for the future (or in case they need free healthcare, subsidized education, etc.).

True but those people will also lose their PR eventually if they fail to meet the RO. Making it harder or easier for them to renew their PR cards does not change that.

 

[Yolka]

IMO it's a bit different when one spouse is Canadian. PR sponsorship is the only option given to spouses of Canadians. Spouses who are not visa exempt are routinely refused visit visas and other temporary permits to Canada based on risk of overstay.

After having sponsored the spouse for PR, the situation can change. It may be the Canadian spouse who gets a job overseas and wants to move. According to immigration rules, there is no limit how long the PR spouse can keep their PR while living outside Canada as long as they are living with their Canadian partner.

My opinion is that if they are allowed to keep their PR forever while living outside Canada, it should also be made easier for them to renew their PR cards.

Thank you Leon. I am personally in that situation. We are obviously not planning to reside permanently overseas (as per torontosm's post).