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PR refused - Marriage Certificate

k.h.p.

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Mar 1, 2019
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What I am saying is that: How the official knows it was a marriage certificate from US if the file wasn't sent? Of course the file and the certificate were sent!
You are asking me if I have sent the file with the marriage certificate. Of course I sent, otherwise how the official would know that the certificate was from the US? And in case you are wondering what I've sent, it was the official marriage certificate, with official stamp and seal, signatures, in an anti-fraud paper, clearly saying Marriage Certificate. It's was not an affidavit, was a marriage certificate.
Just telling you what your own GCMS notes say.

Also telling you that your PR application was not refused because of where the marriage took place but because, for some reason likely connected to a screw-up on their end, IRCC does not believe it has a copy of the certificate.

While I get you feel that you need to insist that the words that say "marriage certificate not provided" must mean "marriage not registered in home country," there's only so much room for interpretation from the actual notes.
 

k.h.p.

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There's nothing else in the ATIP stating anything about the refusal.
Not even at the very bottom of the file where the NOTES are written. Except for the images already shared..
That's because your application was rejected as incomplete - it was not processed. When an application is rejected as incomplete, it is not processed, and there are no notes.

Your GCMS notes are literally a computer-generated summary of files that were uploaded, with no visa officer analysis.
 

guidebortoli

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Aug 24, 2019
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Just telling you what your own GCMS notes say.

Also telling you that your PR application was not refused because of where the marriage took place but because, for some reason likely connected to a screw-up on their end, IRCC does not believe it has a copy of the certificate.

While I get you feel that you need to insist that the words that say "marriage certificate not provided" must mean "marriage not registered in home country," there's only so much room for interpretation from the actual notes.

I know. The fact that a marriage must be registered in the home country doesn't make any sense. But then, that's me trying to understand why it was refused based on a couple of words...
 

guidebortoli

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Aug 24, 2019
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The official opened the file and the Marriage Certificate was there (since he saw that it was from the US).
Now, why he didn't accept, then there are rooms for interpretations. Even if he needed other documents, he should have requested, because the mandatory document was there, i. e., the marriage certificate.
 

k.h.p.

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The official opened the file and the Marriage Certificate was there (since he saw that it was from the US).
Now, why he didn't accept, then there are rooms for interpretations. Even if he needed other documents, he should have requested, because the mandatory document was there, i. e., the marriage certificate.
Okay. You're not listening.

The visa officer reviewed a file but determined that the marriage certificate was not there.

Have you looked at the PDF you uploaded? Did it have all the pages in it? Was the marriage certificate included? Did it say "Marriage Licence" or "Marriage Certificate"?

You said you included an apostille. Is that the only page that was visible?

Your notes do not say that the marriage certificate was there and was refused because of where the marriage occurred.

Your GCMS notes say that the marriage certificate was not included in the application. Your application was rejected as incomplete. It was not rejected because the marriage was illegal.

Did IRCC make an error? Almost definitely! Have you checked the file you uploaded to see if it was clearly and unambiguously a marriage certificate? No, because you're insisting that the visa officer violated the rule that a marriage "must be legal in the country where it was conducted and in Canada," which any marriage in the US would be unless it wasn't done in accordance with US law (ie, you guys didn't have a license, hired a rodeo clown who was not authorized to perform marriages, and hand-drew a marriage certificate on the back of a McDonald's receipt).

IRCC is not saying that your Las Vegas marriage is invalid - they're saying you didn't include the certificate. Elvis, sadly, has left the building - whether he ought to have or not.
 

bob3

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May 19, 2020
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Category........
CEC
NOC Code......
2282
I will advise putting it clearly on PDF,Do not make them do any wor k by having to open files and stuff. Please put it in a PDF.
 

Walle_007

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Aug 8, 2019
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As khp said. Go to the pdf you uploaded> review all the pages> maybe you forgot to merge the marriage certificate in that pdf..

If u have then sent them a webform to re consider.