PR Holder : Wife Pregnant cannot deliver in Canada...Pls need advise

[denDbest]

Dear Seniors:

My wife is pregnant and cannot deliver in Canada due to OHIP issue (toronto)

We try to get OHIP but according to the policy the person needs to stay in canada for 183days to be covered by OHIP and be eligible.
The reason my wife cannot stay in Canada for that required time is due to Work reason back in Dubai.
We try to contact some private insurance but they only covers unforce sickness..

I called other provinces but same policy they have..

I can add the baby in PR status? how?

What other option we can do? please i need your advise. Thanks in advance...

 

[scylla]

Once the baby is born, you can sponsor the baby for PR. Either you or your wife must be living in Canada in order to submit this sponsorship application.

 

[denDbest]

both of us are living outside canada and not able to settle not until 2 years due to work related issues...
Can I go personally in Canada like for a week to process the PR sponsorship? Thank You.

 

[scylla]

both of us are living outside canada and not able to settle not until 2 years due to work related issues...
Can I go personally in Canada like for a week to process the PR sponsorship? Thank You.

No - you can't go to Canada for a week and process the PR sponsorship. Once CIC determines you have left Canada the application will be refused.

You should wait until you have returned to Canada permanently and then sponsor your child for PR then. You can try bringing your child with you to Canada before the PR visa is approved either through a TRV or TRP (if the TRV is refused).

 

[sumitk12345]

If case is critical then deliver your baby in Canada.. Law is not bigger than Nature..If still it's time for your wife to deliver baby then follow laws of Canada..

 

[denDbest]

No - you can't go to Canada for a week and process the PR sponsorship. Once CIC determines you have left Canada the application will be refused.

You should wait until you have returned to Canada permanently and then sponsor your child for PR then. You can try bringing your child with you to Canada before the PR visa is approved either through a TRV or TRP (if the TRV is refused).

Thank YOu Scylla..
Can you give me the link for the application of TRV or TRP? thanks

 

[zardoz]

If case is critical then deliver your baby in Canada.. Law is not bigger than Nature..If still it's time for your wife to deliver baby then follow laws of Canada..

It's nothing to do with "Law" or "Nature". it's to do with "Cost". Giving birth in Canada with no medical coverage, (provincial or private), will start costing at 10k for hospital up to > 100k if there are problems.
It could be financial suicide.

 

[canvis2006]

a lot of people in Canada don;t have provincial coverage, even women with pregnancies

they've found ways around this using midwives, negotiate with hospital for payment, etc........at least the child will be Canadian, and no hassles traveling.

Upto you to decide though.

 

[Leon]

There are a couple of free clinics in Toronto and you can talk to some midwives. However, if there is a complication and your wife has to go to hospital, needs a c-section etc., then you will have to pay. Are both you and your wife working in Dubai? If only you are working, you can leave your wife in Toronto for 5 months (153 days in ON, not 183) and she will not have any trouble with OHIP. There is however a 3 month waiting period after you arrive to get OHIP so you have to be there early enough to get coverage before the baby comes.

The other option would be to have the baby overseas. When you are ready to return to Canada after ca. 2 years, apply for a TRV for the baby to come with you. If you are denied, apply for a TRP (basically a TRV with humane and compassionate grounds like you having to be in Canada to sponsor and how it will be hardship on your family if you have to leave your wife behind with the baby).

If you are still denied, you will have to go to Canada alone, apply to sponsor the baby and stay in Canada during the processing. Your wife will have to wait with the baby until the baby is approved for PR. If you get delayed while applying for the baby's TRV and TRP, make sure that you yourself return to Canada in time to comply with the residency obligation. If you breach it, you would not be able to sponsor. If your wife breaches the residency obligation while waiting outside with the baby, she can still return with her valid PR card and if she has a problem, she can appeal or worse case, you can sponsor her too but it is essential that at least one of you complies with the residency obligation. In order to comply, you can not have spent more than 1094 days outside Canada since your landing as a PR.

 

[denDbest]

There are a couple of free clinics in Toronto and you can talk to some midwives. However, if there is a complication and your wife has to go to hospital, needs a c-section etc., then you will have to pay. Are both you and your wife working in Dubai? If only you are working, you can leave your wife in Toronto for 5 months (153 days in ON, not 183) and she will not have any trouble with OHIP. There is however a 3 month waiting period after you arrive to get OHIP so you have to be there early enough to get coverage before the baby comes.

The other option would be to have the baby overseas. When you are ready to return to Canada after ca. 2 years, apply for a TRV for the baby to come with you. If you are denied, apply for a TRP (basically a TRV with humane and compassionate grounds like you having to be in Canada to sponsor and how it will be hardship on your family if you have to leave your wife behind with the baby). Thank you sir for the information...
Is there any other province wherein the law for insurance is less waiting and considerable!? Like Alberta? Tnx

If you are still denied, you will have to go to Canada alone, apply to sponsor the baby and stay in Canada during the processing. Your wife will have to wait with the baby until the baby is approved for PR. If you get delayed while applying for the baby's TRV and TRP, make sure that you yourself return to Canada in time to comply with the residency obligation. If you breach it, you would not be able to sponsor. If your wife breaches the residency obligation while waiting outside with the baby, she can still return with her valid PR card and if she has a problem, she can appeal or worse case, you can sponsor her too but it is essential that at least one of you complies with the residency obligation. In order to comply, you can not have spent more than 1094 days outside Canada since your landing as a PR.

 

[scylla]

Is there any other province wherein the law for insurance is less waiting and considerable!? Like Alberta? Tnx

It sounds like you have no plans to live in Canada in the immediate future. If so, don't try to use Canada's health care system to pay for the delivery of your child. This will likely only create problems for you.

If you come to Canada to give birth to the child, make use of provincial health and then leave Canada after 2-3 months - it's quite possible the province will go after you for the costs of the labour. We have seen this happen on this forum and the costs have been very high.

If you have no plans to live in Canada in the immediate future, then you really have two options: (1) have the child in Canada but pay for the costs of the delivery yourself; (2) have the child outside of Canada and then sponsor the child for PR once you are ready to return to Canada.

 

[Leon]

Agree with scylla. There are provinces that offer first day coverage to newcomers, no waiting period but they all have it in their eligibility requirements that you need to be residing in the province and committed to residing in the province and in most cases that means staying there for 183 days a year.

If you register for health care in some province fully knowing that you are not going to be staying there for 183 days in that first year, what you are doing can be considered fraud and if caught, not only would you be backcharged for the bills they paid but you may have some other not so pleasant consequences as well as a result.

Also keep in mind that even if they let you off with you re-paying the bills, the hospitals may bill healthcare differently (more) than they would bill a paying individual so you could end up with a bill considerably higher than if you had paid from your own pocket.