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PR for soon to be exwife is now overdue (3 years) can I notify Immigration ?

nedvert

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How would I notify immigration to watch for her in case she tries to come into the country.

It has been over 3 years now since she was in Canada and only stayed there for 5 weeks but has since abandoned our marriage shortly after leaving.

We were married in another country.

I just want to ensure that they are aware that her PR is now overdue so they can start working on negating it or whatever.

Thanks ahead of time if anyone has any advice.
 

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No - there's nothing you can do about this and no one you can notify.

As long as her PR card is valid, she has the right to enter Canada (although it's possible she may be reported for failing to meet the residency requirement).
 

nedvert

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Thanks.

I don't believe she actually has in her possession the PR card, however I assume she can still fill out a travel document if she needed to go there ?

Wouldn't it be harder to accomplish a travel document if its been 3 years+ since her last passport stamp ?
 

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nedvert said:
Thanks.

I don't believe she actually has in her possession the PR card, however I assume she can still fill out a travel document if she needed to go there ?

Wouldn't it be harder to accomplish a travel document if its been 3 years+ since her last passport stamp ?
It depends what country she's from. If from one that requires a travel visa, then she would need a travel document to fly here. And in applying for the document, they would most likely discover she has not met RO so would revoke her PR.

If she is visa-exempt, then she doesn't need a travel doc and can just fly on visa-exempt passport. Then there is a possibility she would be reported upon entry for not meeting RO, or they may just let her in without reporting. No way to know until it happens.

Or in either case, if she drives in a car from the US through a land border, she also wouldn't need a travel doc, but again could be reported.

No matter what though, this is all completely out of your control and there is nothing you can do one way or the other.
 

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As the others posters have said, this is a matter for CIC and not under your control. CIC shouldn't be used as a tool to punish people for complex and personal betrayals.

Are you divorced? If not that would be a way to resolve the relationship more directly, rather than relying on CIC to manage it.

If she was abusive towards you (and Lord help me if any misogynist/misandrist jerk on here starts ranting about how "real men" - assuming you're a man - are never abused...) than you need to create a no-contact order to make sure she stays a certain distance away from you at all times and doesn't call or harass you, even if she is availing herself of her PR rights.

Good luck.
 

nedvert

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Hey there this note made me smile :)

It's a long story and there are always sides to it but to be honest I was blind to her true motivations.

There were some abusive situations with family and what not while she was here and the proceedings for the divorce are well underway.

I had been informed by someone here that I could maybe notify border control to watch out for her in case she tries to land because quite honestly she might cause my family harm if she was to go back.

It has been clarified that not much I can do so I will just leave it at that :)

Thanks this forum is awesome !





eileenf said:
As the others posters have said, this is a matter for CIC and not under your control. CIC shouldn't be used as a tool to punish people for complex and personal betrayals.

Are you divorced? If not that would be a way to resolve the relationship more directly, rather than relying on CIC to manage it.

If she was abusive towards you (and Lord help me if any misogynist/misandrist jerk on here starts ranting about how "real men" - assuming you're a man - are never abused...) than you need to create a no-contact order to make sure she stays a certain distance away from you at all times and doesn't call or harass you, even if she is availing herself of her PR rights.

Good luck.
 

nedvert

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Hey there thanks for your response.

Your post is quite different than others who seem to indicate that if someone was to fail the 2/5 they would potentially be revoked and that if she was to try to come here without a PR card she would get in easily without question despite having been absent from the country for so long. (and having stayed for so little)

So you are saying that she could simply get the PR card renewed and go back to Canada ? I guess at this point it is irrelevant as I am no longer responsible for her. (Thankfully her true character and personality showed up and motivated her to find another sugar daddy that was willing :))

Anyway thanks for the insight just hopefully this can be clarified for my own understanding :)





Martin29 said:
Conditional PR is applicable only to those who got PR from October 2012.I think your wife landed before that.So you cannot revoke her PR.

As far as I understood PR wont expire.Once a permanent resident of Canada then she is always a permanent resident.
Only PR card expires.She can return back to Canada any time before her PR card expires(5 years after landing).

She can renew her PR card only after staying in Canada for 730 days in last 5 years.

Even if her PR card expire she could still enter Canada with travel documents.Its hard but not impossible.Then she have to live in Canada for 730 days to renew her PR card.She wont be having a valid PR card for 2 years.

You sponsored her and you are responsible for financial support for her for 3 years.That is applicable even if you are divorced or separated. She could have approached govt for welfare and made you pay for it.But she didn't do that.

You are lucky that 3 years sponsorship is over.

Its time to move on.Forget past and think about future. Don't waste time, money and energy for such things.

You think a person should live 2 years out of 5 years to keep the PR.Now she is out of Canada for more than 3 years so she cannot keep her PR.But thats wrong information.Thats only for renewing PR card.Hope you got the point.


She can return to Canada any time before her PR card expires.Residency obligation wont be a problem to enter Canada.
 

Martin29

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Sorry I was wrong.I read this on other posts in this forum.But is not be true in your case.

People with expired PR card who never lived in Canada for 2 years returns with travel documents.But for them there is no one to object with CIC.

In your wife's case if she apply for a travel document and you already filed a complaint then CIC wont give her travel document.Its based on CIC decision.

Thanks.I was mis informed by somebody.Now I know permanent residence is not permanent. :eek:
 

nedvert

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Hi there so I can indeed file a complaint to ensure that this gets looked and scrutinized ? Others have said not much I can do. But if i can make it so it so that it would be more difficult if she was to indeed to try to go back.

thanks. What would I tell the CIC ?


Martin29 said:
Sorry I was wrong.I read this on other posts in this forum.But is not be true in your case.

People with expired PR card who never lived in Canada for 2 years returns with travel documents.But for them there is no one to object with CIC.

In your wife's case if she apply for a travel document and you already filed a complaint then CIC wont give her travel document.Its based on CIC decision.

Thanks.I was mis informed by somebody.Now I know permanent residence is not permanent. :eek:
 

Martin29

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Are you sure she never returned to Canada without your knowledge?If she already did live in Canada then you cannot do any thing.You should complain only if you are 100% sure she is living outside Canada for more than 3 years.


But what I understood is CIC don't care much about such complains.They ignore it.If that is the case then it will be a waste of time and energy for you.

My opinion is first confirm her status.Without accurate information don't complain.

If you are sure about it then tell CIC that you are a Marriage of Convenience victim and tell them your story.