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Dear all,

I find myself in a situation where I could really use some guidance and input. LEON, SCYLLA, anyone who can help, please do provide your feedback.
I am continuing from this thread I posted a while ago where Leon and a few others helped me out not too long ago: http://www.canadavisa.com/canada-immigration-discussion-board/permanent-residency-card-renewal-didnt-meet-the-requirments-t202150.0.html

To sum it up… I submitted in an application for a PR Card Renewal as mine expired not too long ago (April, 2014). I travel quite a bit so getting a PR Card is important to me as I base my home in Canada. My first application submitted in May was an application where I DID NOT MEET THE REQUIREMENTS on compassionate grounds which you can see on the past forum post (I barely did not meet requirements). After taking Leons and a few others advice, I successfully withdrew that application. Not too long after my application was successfully withdrawn, my friends car got broken into and my wallet stolen along with my Permanent Residency Card in it (bollocks!).

I then waited until I met the requirements, and submitted a new application that showed I was 981 days out of Canada in total in the last five years (it says if your total equals 1095 or more days you complete section D – Residency Obligation). I know that is a lot of days to be out of Canada but I waited until I met the requirements even if it was marginally because I really need a PR Card Renwal sooner rather than later. Do you think I am fine with the days? or is that something where they are like that’s a lot of days out of Canada and needs to be looked into (the reason why I was out of Canada for so long was because when I first got my Permanent Residency Card I had a 2 years left of High School to complete in Europe and I wrote that down so they could see)… Also I was even in Canada 3 more months after submitting this new application if that counts for anything, will the CIC factor those days in for my favor?

So after submitting this new application stating I now met the requirements (barely, I know), and that my last residency card was stolen (I put what happened and the Police Report number…do both these things look suspicious to you and work against me?)… I then get a mail 2 weeks ago saying my application was returned because I didn’t meet the photo requirements. I forgot to write the dates on the back of the photo because I used two pictures I took in Europe and they don’t write the date on the back as they do in Canada. So I found two more passport pics that met the requirement sizes and were taken within the last year and I wrote the date they were taken on the back which was within 12 months (Decemember 2013, and the day ofcourse). I just sent it back to the address on the form they gave me including the piece of paper they sent me writing on it ‘Please find attached photos with the dates on the back’ along with my entire application. So since submitting my first application, I withdrew it, my card got stolen, and then I stupidly forgot to put dates on the back of my pictures.

Up to this point do you think I am okay or am I just screwed?

Now this is where it gets tricky and unfortunate for me because I have to return home. I have to return to Europe (tomorrow) for some personal family reasons which urgently require me, and it’s a one way flight because I wouldn’t be able to get back in Canada after on just a return flight. I just graduated college so I don't have a job although I was looking and I am now in Europe indefinitely waiting to come back to Canada. I have a friend staying in my old place who picks up my mail and so forth just in case. Will the CIC know I left Canada? I used my British Passport to leave even though I don’t think they check or report my passport I.D that I left Canada and inform the government. If I do get called in for an interview to the CIC or to pick up my card in Canada, I can always book a return flight as I can always return as a visitor. In a dream world I would just get my PR card mailed to me, book a return flight to Canada pick it up and I have it from then on. I know this is a bundle of confusion but I have tried to explain it as clearly as possible. I am just so eager to get back to Canada with a PR Card so I have the freedom to travel again.

What do you guys think, will my application go to the back off the line after being returned to me because it was incomplete? Do they mail the PR card or do I have to pick it up if succesfull? Will the CIC factor those three months in after I filed my new application and know I am in Europe? Does all this work against me or am I over thinking everything? What should I do, or do you think there is nothing I can do? I don’t want them to know specifically I left Canada as that could work against me. I know there is an option of getting a "Returning Resident Permit" from the embassy here but I don't know how long that takes to get, and if it would then alert the CIC I left and work entirely against me. Please help.
 

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OK. A couple of things.

First, take a breath man, sheesh! The world hasn't come to a halt, not yet ;)

Secondly. You should have updated your dates on your renewal application to reflect the extra days you had spent in Canada between your first application and the return for the pictures. If you didn't it's a moot point now, but won't hurt you, so no panicking.

Thirdly. If you have a british passport, then use it to fly back to Canada. Once you are on Canadian soil, just show the CBSA your receipt for filing for a new card and tell them it did not come in on time for your trip. If they ask you why you don't have the old one, tell them that is part of the problem as your old one was stolen.

No, CIC is not going to view your withdrawal then subsequent stolen wallet as a 'plot'. People lose their PR cards more frequently than you can imagine. If I were you, then I would board a plane back to Canada when I was ready and just get on with my life.

You are, in fact, putting way too much emphasis on this card. It is ONLY a travel document. It is NOT your actual PR that is tied to this thing. As a British citizen you are visa exempt to Canada, which means you can travel back to Canada from anywhere in the world without your PR card and it shouldn't be an issue. Don't waste your time to get a PTRD. It's not worth the time, money nor effort you will need to exert to get it. Not only that, it's not necessary in your case.
 

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Alurra71 said:
OK. A couple of things.

First, take a breath man, sheesh! The world hasn't come to a halt, not yet ;)

Secondly. You should have updated your dates on your renewal application to reflect the extra days you had spent in Canada between your first application and the return for the pictures. If you didn't it's a moot point now, but won't hurt you, so no panicking.

Thirdly. If you have a british passport, then use it to fly back to Canada. Once you are on Canadian soil, just show the CBSA your receipt for filing for a new card and tell them it did not come in on time for your trip. If they ask you why you don't have the old one, tell them that is part of the problem as your old one was stolen.

No, CIC is not going to view your withdrawal then subsequent stolen wallet as a 'plot'. People lose their PR cards more frequently than you can imagine. If I were you, then I would board a plane back to Canada when I was ready and just get on with my life.

You are, in fact, putting way too much emphasis on this card. It is ONLY a travel document. It is NOT your actual PR that is tied to this thing. As a British citizen you are visa exempt to Canada, which means you can travel back to Canada from anywhere in the world without your PR card and it shouldn't be an issue. Don't waste your time to get a PTRD. It's not worth the time, money nor effort you will need to exert to get it. Not only that, it's not necessary in your case.

Alurra, Straight up, thank you - I feel like a weight off my shouldiers are lifted off. So you think I am okay? So If I was to want to come back to Canada right now let's say. All I need to bring is my 'Official Receipt' with the date of payment included, which has that bar code at the top? That's enough to get back into Canada you think? Also you think booking a one way flight is okay, I don't need a return one?

Part of the reason why I need my PR Card back is because I cannot get my drivers license renewed and I want a Care Card with my picture on it as a form of primary I.D so I won't need to take my government I.D everywhere...you need the PR Card for everything.. Health.. Job.. and more.

Do you think me being close to the 1095 days is a cause for them to not renew my card. What do you think your opinion is off my application? Also is it okay if I manually wrote the day my picture was taken on the two new photos, it wasn't a professional passport photo stamp with the location and date. I hand wrote the last application date and it was fine but the more I asked around apparently it needs to be a professional stamp?

Does my application go to the back of the line now, and how long do you think this will take to be processed (I know the process times say 150 calendar days but apparently the processing times aren't correct), and is it mailed?
 

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rb10 said:
Alurra, Straight up, thank you - I feel like a weight off my shouldiers are lifted off. So you think I am okay? So If I was to want to come back to Canada right now let's say. All I need to bring is my 'Official Receipt' with the date of payment included, which has that bar code at the top? That's enough to get back into Canada you think?

Part of the reason why I need my PR Card back is because I cannot get my drivers license renewed and I want a Care Card with my picture on it as a form of primary I.D so I won't need to take my government I.D everywhere...you need the PR Card for everything.. Health.. Job.. and more.

Do you think me being close to the 1095 days is a cause for them to not renew my card. What do you think your opinion is off my application? Also is it okay if I manually wrote the day my picture was taken on the two new photos, it wasn't a professional passport photo stamp with the location and date. I hand wrote the last application date and it was fine but the more I asked around apparently it needs to be a professional stamp?

Does my application go to the back of the line now, and how long do you think this will take to be processed (I know the process times say 150 calendar days but apparently the processing times aren't correct), and is it mailed?
Yes, the receipt will be fine. CBSA will NOT deny you entry into Canada. You are a PR.

You said you had 981 days outside of Canada in the last 5 years. If you had 1093, that would be close, but not yours. So long as you were able to prove your days in Canada, you will not have a problem and CIC will renew your PR card. They have renewed it for folks that are so close to being out of bounds the only thing saving them was a time zone difference ;) Don't panic!

I am not sure about the application itself, honestly. I can't answer that question for you. I don't know if your place in line is held or if it goes to the back of the line. Similarly, sometimes CIC does a quality control check on the PR cards. 99.9% of the time they mail it directly to your address listed on the applicaitons. There is that small chance yours will be selected for quality control in which case they ask you to come pick it up at the local office. That is usually quite a simple procedure as well, you would bring the documentations you used to renew your card with initially, and any other supporting documents, they look it over and give you your card. Other than the time taken from your day, it's painless.

Take another deep breath. You'll be ok. ;)
 

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Alurra71 said:
Yes, the receipt will be fine. CBSA will NOT deny you entry into Canada. You are a PR.

You said you had 981 days outside of Canada in the last 5 years. If you had 1093, that would be close, but not yours. So long as you were able to prove your days in Canada, you will not have a problem and CIC will renew your PR card. They have renewed it for folks that are so close to being out of bounds the only thing saving them was a time zone difference ;) Don't panic!

I am not sure about the application itself, honestly. I can't answer that question for you. I don't know if your place in line is held or if it goes to the back of the line. Similarly, sometimes CIC does a quality control check on the PR cards. 99.9% of the time they mail it directly to your address listed on the applicaitons. There is that small chance yours will be selected for quality control in which case they ask you to come pick it up at the local office. That is usually quite a simple procedure as well, you would bring the documentations you used to renew your card with initially, and any other supporting documents, they look it over and give you your card. Other than the time taken from your day, it's painless.

Take another deep breath. You'll be ok. ;)
So you think me manually writing the date on the back of the two new submitted passport photos of when they were taken is acceptable? Will they also know I am out of Canada now somehow, does that change anything?

I would still appreciate other people’s feedback and people’s thoughts on the above posts and any further posts from this point as my father and brother think I have screwed up my application by withdrawing it, getting it stolen, and messing up the photo requirements, then leaving the country. They think I am just ‘raising red flags’ (although none of that stuff was done on purpose). A part of me does feel like they are right.

By the way Allura I didn’t update my returned application or update the days, I left it as it is, I was scared to change anything to further harm my chances otherwise I would have cleaned up my last concern which I will post below because it is seriously on my mind and I am kicking myself.

My last issue of concern is this:

In Part C (Personal History), I re-read it when they returned the application to me 2 weeks ago and it does look confusing as hell but I tried to be honest in what I put down.
My first University after highschool was for 2 semesters at a Uni in the UK before finally transferring to Canada. None of the credits even transferred to my Canadian Uni from the UK uni and to be honest there isn’t even a trace that I was there at that Uni unless they really dig up and call them (which they might because I idiotically put it down), I only put it in to be honest. The issue is, In Address History… I didn’t put the address of the UK University down because I was basically home (my home at the time) a lot and it felt like I lived at home in France (and there also wasn’t enough space to put it in). I counted those two semesters at the UK Uni as if I was living in my home address in France.

In the Education history: I put my high school, then below that I then put the UK University of 9 months (which is two semesters), it felt like I was attending the Uni by distance because I didn’t go to class – it was a hard time for me and I wanted to leave that Uni to go to Canada. After that line, I then put my Canadian Uni of three years. Then under my Canadian uni I put a four month exchange semester I got from my Canadian Uni in Holland.

Then in the final part (21 – Travel History): I put my home address which is where I stayed during high school and combined and added up the days that I was at this UK University on top of my high school days, next to it where it says reason for absence I put (Completed High School & 1 year gap year - which was the UK uni because it felt like a gap year and none of the credits even transferred).
Im looking at it and thinking oh crap what I have done. I just tried submitting an honest application that’s all.
Theoretically I did attend that Uni in the UK because I was enrolled, but it felt like I was never there because I was home a lot, and in my mind it was a gap year because none of the credits transferred to my Uni in Canada and it counted for nothing essentially. Does that make sense?

To clarify it easily, my address history DOES NOT include the UK University. My Work and Educational History does include it. My Travel History states that I lived at home and that I had a gap year after High School and added up those days as a 'gap year' with my high school days. I am an idiot.

I am just scared that the CIC would look at that and just think, that doesn’t make sense, is that a reason to not renew my PR card? Does it make sense to you guys? Or would alarm bells be ringing for you… on top of everything else
 

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rb10 said:
So you think me manually writing the date on the back of the two new submitted passport photos of when they were taken is acceptable? Will they also know I am out of Canada now somehow, does that change anything?

I would still appreciate other people's feedback and people's thoughts on the above posts and any further posts from this point as my father and brother think I have screwed up my application by withdrawing it, getting it stolen, and messing up the photo requirements, then leaving the country. They think I am just ‘raising red flags' (although none of that stuff was done on purpose). A part of me does feel like they are right.

By the way Allura I didn't update my returned application or update the days, I left it as it is, I was scared to change anything to further harm my chances otherwise I would have cleaned up my last concern which I will post below because it is seriously on my mind and I am kicking myself.

My last issue of concern is this:

In Part C (Personal History), I re-read it when they returned the application to me 2 weeks ago and it does look confusing as hell but I tried to be honest in what I put down.
My first University after highschool was for 2 semesters at a Uni in the UK before finally transferring to Canada. None of the credits even transferred to my Canadian Uni from the UK uni and to be honest there isn't even a trace that I was there at that Uni unless they really dig up and call them (which they might because I idiotically put it down), I only put it in to be honest. The issue is, In Address History... I didn't put the address of the UK University down because I was basically home (my home at the time) a lot and it felt like I lived at home in France (and there also wasn't enough space to put it in). I counted those two semesters at the UK Uni as if I was living in my home address in France.

In the Education history: I put my high school, then below that I then put the UK University of 9 months (which is two semesters), it felt like I was attending the Uni by distance because I didn't go to class – it was a hard time for me and I wanted to leave that Uni to go to Canada. After that line, I then put my Canadian Uni of three years. Then under my Canadian uni I put a four month exchange semester I got from my Canadian Uni in Holland.

Then in the final part (21 – Travel History): I put my home address which is where I stayed during high school and combined and added up the days that I was at this UK University on top of my high school days, next to it where it says reason for absence I put (Completed High School & 1 year gap year - which was the UK uni because it felt like a gap year and none of the credits even transferred).
Im looking at it and thinking oh crap what I have done. I just tried submitting an honest application that's all.
Theoretically I did attend that Uni in the UK because I was enrolled, but it felt like I was never there because I was home a lot, and in my mind it was a gap year because none of the credits transferred to my Uni in Canada and it counted for nothing essentially. Does that make sense?

To clarify it easily, my address history DOES NOT include the UK University. My Work and Educational History does include it. My Travel History states that I lived at home and that I had a gap year after High School and added up those days as a 'gap year' with my high school days. I am an idiot.

I am just scared that the CIC would look at that and just think, that doesn't make sense, is that a reason to not renew my PR card? Does it make sense to you guys? Or would alarm bells be ringing for you... on top of everything else
I have never seen the actual written requirements in regards to name/date on the back of the photos. If it's not acceptable, they will send them back to you and you will have to do it the other way. It is that simple. Spending all of your time worrying about it won't change it. Your father and your brother certainly are not helping you to stay calm. Helpful family you got there ;) Unless you are lying about any of your details, there is nothing to worry about. Seriously, I don't see any big red flags based on what you are saying here.

So, did you physically live at home while attending university or did you live in a dormitory? Just because you attended University does NOT mean you didn't live at home and your address history should be different. You are way over thinking all of this and all you're going to achieve is giving yourself at minimum an ulcer and worst case scenario giving yourself a stroke over the stress of this.

As you have been told MULTIPLE times from MULTIPLE people. You are over analyzing and over stressing this entire situation. If you are truthful you will be fine. If CIC needs clarification for something they will ask for it. You can't change anything at this time, so just sit back and wait to see what happens.
 

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Thanks Allura,

The thing is, if it is not okay to manually write the date on the back of the two passport photo's, then they will need two photos from me which obviously have to be taken in Canada because they stamp it with the location and date. I am not in Canada. Also if they give me any additional information, how will I even post it or reply to it, im in Europe...
 

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Alurra71 said:
I have never seen the actual written requirements in regards to name/date on the back of the photos. If it's not acceptable, they will send them back to you and you will have to do it the other way. It is that simple. Spending all of your time worrying about it won't change it. Your father and your brother certainly are not helping you to stay calm. Helpful family you got there ;) Unless you are lying about any of your details, there is nothing to worry about. Seriously, I don't see any big red flags based on what you are saying here.

So, did you physically live at home while attending university or did you live in a dormitory? Just because you attended University does NOT mean you didn't live at home and your address history should be different. You are way over thinking all of this and all you're going to achieve is giving yourself at minimum an ulcer and worst case scenario giving yourself a stroke over the stress of this.

As you have been told MULTIPLE times from MULTIPLE people. You are over analyzing and over stressing this entire situation. If you are truthful you will be fine. If CIC needs clarification for something they will ask for it. You can't change anything at this time, so just sit back and wait to see what happens.
I did NOT physically live at home to be honest, I was living in the dorms in the UK but I spent most of my time at home. I don't know if that is a big issue? Is this something that could harm my application?
 

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If immigration needs some clarification on your application, they will call you in for an interview to pick up your card. If you were sleeping at the dorms, maybe you should have put the dorms as your address but it's still a grey zone that you can easily explain if you were spending more time at home than at the dorms. You have not done anything wrong and there is no reason why they would deny your PR card renewal unless they thought you were lying about your days spent in Canada.

Ideally you get your PR card in the mail, your friend would fed ex it to you and you would be able to return with it but if that doesn't happen, you can fly to Canada on your UK passport any time. Don't mention to the airline that you are a PR but when you arrive in Canada, you should say that you are and show whatever you have. Do you have your landing papers with you? That would definitely help. Otherwise the police report about the lost PR card as well as the letter that you applied should help convince immigration that you are really a PR.

If immigration wants to know if you are outside Canada, they can. They have access to flight manifests when they want to. If you are ready to return to Canada now, you should. At least make sure that you continue to meet the RO. The RO is not something you should only meet before you want to renew your PR card. You need to meet it all the time.

Right now, your days spent in Canada 5 years ago are moving outside the window of the past 5 years. They will have to be replaced with new days spent in Canada. Now, if you weren't in Canada 5 years ago, you would be ok because you would be replacing outside days with outside days so it's a non issue but if you are replacing Canadian days with outside days right now, you are getting closer to not meeting the RO again, day by day.

Immigration can examine your status any time you enter Canada so even if you met the RO when you applied for the card and even if your friend mails you the new card, you could still be examined for meeting the RO the next time you enter and if immigration thinks you don't meet it, they can report you so be aware of that and continue to calculate your days on a day by day basis to make sure you return in time and that you continue to meet the RO in the future.
 

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Leon said:
If immigration needs some clarification on your application, they will call you in for an interview to pick up your card. If you were sleeping at the dorms, maybe you should have put the dorms as your address but it's still a grey zone that you can easily explain if you were spending more time at home than at the dorms. You have not done anything wrong and there is no reason why they would deny your PR card renewal unless they thought you were lying about your days spent in Canada.

Ideally you get your PR card in the mail, your friend would fed ex it to you and you would be able to return with it but if that doesn't happen, you can fly to Canada on your UK passport any time. Don't mention to the airline that you are a PR but when you arrive in Canada, you should say that you are and show whatever you have. Do you have your landing papers with you? That would definitely help. Otherwise the police report about the lost PR card as well as the letter that you applied should help convince immigration that you are really a PR.

If immigration wants to know if you are outside Canada, they can. They have access to flight manifests when they want to. If you are ready to return to Canada now, you should. At least make sure that you continue to meet the RO. The RO is not something you should only meet before you want to renew your PR card. You need to meet it all the time.

Right now, your days spent in Canada 5 years ago are moving outside the window of the past 5 years. They will have to be replaced with new days spent in Canada. Now, if you weren't in Canada 5 years ago, you would be ok because you would be replacing outside days with outside days so it's a non issue but if you are replacing Canadian days with outside days right now, you are getting closer to not meeting the RO again, day by day.

Immigration can examine your status any time you enter Canada so even if you met the RO when you applied for the card and even if your friend mails you the new card, you could still be examined for meeting the RO the next time you enter and if immigration thinks you don't meet it, they can report you so be aware of that and continue to calculate your days on a day by day basis to make sure you return in time and that you continue to meet the RO in the future.
Hi Leon,

Thanks for the reply. Few questions here on my end.

Firstly do you think what you have read so far I will be okay with my application towards a renewal of my PR card? You said that they could call me in for an interview, how would I come in if I am in Europe, I guess I would have to book a flight. I guess when they give me an interview, they give me a time and date, what if I cannot make that because I dont have enough time to book a flight. Concerning coming back to Canada, do you think it should just be a one way ticket bought if I just wanted to stay, or should I book a return and go in my British passport to play safe. I don't have a police report to show as they wouldn't issue it, although I have the police file number. Also I do not have my landing papers, just my receipt of renewal for PR.

Most importantly, do you think immigration will check if I am outside Canada right now, honestly? For the days, I hope I will be safe as I was also in Canada for 2 months after coming back to Europe so I have that time frame as well.
 

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rb10 said:
Hi Leon,

Thanks for the reply. Few questions here on my end.

Firstly do you think what you have read so far I will be okay with my application towards a renewal of my PR card? You said that they could call me in for an interview, how would I come in if I am in Europe, I guess I would have to book a flight. I guess when they give me an interview, they give me a time and date, what if I cannot make that because I dont have enough time to book a flight. Concerning coming back to Canada, do you think it should just be a one way ticket bought if I just wanted to stay, or should I book a return and go in my British passport to play safe. I don't have a police report to show as they wouldn't issue it, although I have the police file number. Also I do not have my landing papers, just my receipt of renewal for PR.

Most importantly, do you think immigration will check if I am outside Canada right now, honestly? For the days, I hope I will be safe as I was also in Canada for 2 months after coming back to Europe so I have that time frame as well.
As long as you meet the RO, you will be fine with your application.

If they request that you come in for an interview or pick up your card in person, you will have to come back for it. If you do not collect your PR card within 6 months of it being sent to your local office, it will be sent back to CIC headquarters and destroyed and you will have to apply for a replacement card again.

If you can not make an appointment they give you, try to notify them by whichever means they give you in the letter. Once you are in Canada again, call the call centre and ask for another appointment.

If you want to leave again after the interview / getting your new PR card, you can. Just make sure you continue to meet the RO. As I said, it is not enough to meet it once. You always have to meet it for the past 5 years.
 

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Leon said:
As long as you meet the RO, you will be fine with your application.

If they request that you come in for an interview or pick up your card in person, you will have to come back for it. If you do not collect your PR card within 6 months of it being sent to your local office, it will be sent back to CIC headquarters and destroyed and you will have to apply for a replacement card again.

If you can not make an appointment they give you, try to notify them by whichever means they give you in the letter. Once you are in Canada again, call the call centre and ask for another appointment.

If you want to leave again after the interview / getting your new PR card, you can. Just make sure you continue to meet the RO. As I said, it is not enough to meet it once. You always have to meet it for the past 5 years.

Thanks Leon for the reply.

Out of curiosity; what are the odds of the immigration officers checking whether or not I am outside the country, and then calculating my days from then on out? or does every officer have to check the flight records and see where I am and then calculate the days even though I gave him all of my days.

Also, I know right now it says 151 days processing time, I guess thats when they START processing it right, now since the day I send it in? They haven't even reached my date yet. Does my application go to the back of the line because it was returned?
 

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Passport Req..
01-10-2010
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05-10-2010
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05-10-2010
Unfortunately it's really impossible to give you any odds or statistics on how likely it is the immigration officer will check.

Yes - if your application is returned and you have to resubmit it, then your application goes to the back of the line.
 

rb10

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scylla said:
Unfortunately it's really impossible to give you any odds or statistics on how likely it is the immigration officer will check.

Yes - if your application is returned and you have to resubmit it, then your application goes to the back of the line.
Jeezish so I am now all the way at the back of the line. So when the processing time says they are dealing with applications that are June 9th lets say. Because mine got moved all the way to the back and even though I sent mine on that June 9th, mine wont be processed the same time as the others sent on the same day?

Also, does anyone know if it is okay that I sent in pictures and just wrote the date on the back of the photo's I.D, they were not stamped and anything. I took them in Europe earlier that year, they fit all the criteria and are same lengths. That should be alright right?

Does anyone know if they open the application when they receive them right away, to check to see if everything is okay, so I don't have to worry about the photos and if they met the requirements, or will they open them just later on when my application beings to be processed?
 

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You have to use the date on which CIC received your complete application. If you submitted an incomplete application on June 9th, the entire application was then returned to you, and then you resubmitted the entire application to CIC recently - June 9th is no longer the date on which your application was received.

So if you resubmitted your entire application - you are no longer a June 9th applicant and your application will not be processed with the other June 9th applicants. Your application date is the new date when your resubmitted application reached CIC.