Post e-APR Process and Common Reasons for Rejection

[BillHyatt]

@BillHyatt I sent you a PM.

Thank you

Answered.

 

[BillHyatt]

What is selection-EE econ that shows in the notes
Thx Bill

Kindly provide the section and some other related information. It’s difficult to say with just this much information.

 

[Mzub]

Hi BillHyatt, sorry to bother you again. In my gcms notes I found written; COUNTER FOIL REQUIRED: YES.
What does this mean? Thanks for your time.

 

[Cbhav1]

Hi Friends -

FSW-O applicant here. Today marks the 90th day after Meds Passed and I am still in IP1. There was a slight change to my profile 2 weeks ago- Additional docs changed to 'No Additional Docs Required' from 'Additional documents you provided are being reviewed'. Please note there was no ADR request. I am July applicant and fact that being still IP1 concerns me. I have reached out to CIC via email and phone multiple times and they said they have all the documentation from my end and everything looks good. They said they are reviewing my eligibility and criminality isnt started yet. I have requested GCMS notes but will receive those in two weeks. Your inputs are highly appreciated if anyone has come across such a delay in processing.

 

[singh_b]

Hi @BillHyatt

I was requested RCMP on August 22nd, It's due date to submit on gcms notes is Oct 22nd.

I submitted RCMP on August 29 but since then my criminality is in progress & they haven't verified rcmp (as i can see from gcms notes i received today).

Will they check rcmp next day of due date,i.e. 23 october?

Thanks

 

[Xiaociaoshaw_02]

Hi @BillHyatt. My BGC status has just been recently updated from NA to “We are processing your background check...”. However, my eligibily status hasn’t changed yet saying they’re still reviewing. By the way, my application has been forwarded to my local VO in the end of September so I guess I’m in IP2?

Would appreciate your clarifications and additional info if there’s still any. Thanks.

 

[000111222]

@BillHyatt

Hi Bill

A couple of queries:

1. If I have claimed points in ECA only for my Masters, do I still have to submit the scans of my entire education history - Bachelors/other education as part of uploads? Shouldn't uploading the Masters and ECA suffice?

2. Is it necessary to list and upload details of every bank and investment account you own (and get letters from them) as proof of funds, or is one bank/letter enough provided it meets the requirements adequately?

Thanks

 

[BillHyatt]

Hi BillHyatt, sorry to bother you again. In my gcms notes I found written; COUNTER FOIL REQUIRED: YES.
What does this mean? Thanks for your time.

This means you require visa stamping on the successful approval of the application.

 

[BillHyatt]

Hi Friends -

FSW-O applicant here. Today marks the 90th day after Meds Passed and I am still in IP1. There was a slight change to my profile 2 weeks ago- Additional docs changed to 'No Additional Docs Required' from 'Additional documents you provided are being reviewed'. Please note there was no ADR request. I am July applicant and fact that being still IP1 concerns me. I have reached out to CIC via email and phone multiple times and they said they have all the documentation from my end and everything looks good. They said they are reviewing my eligibility and criminality isnt started yet. I have requested GCMS notes but will receive those in two weeks. Your inputs are highly appreciated if anyone has come across such a delay in processing.

This is normal for some applicants. Sometimes applicants see long IP1 with faster NA2 and IP2. So, just wait for GCMS notes to see whats going on and may you will be able to find reasons for the delay.

 

[BillHyatt]

Hi @BillHyatt

I was requested RCMP on August 22nd, It's due date to submit on gcms notes is Oct 22nd.

I submitted RCMP on August 29 but since then my criminality is in progress & they haven't verified rcmp (as i can see from gcms notes i received today).

Will they check rcmp next day of due date,i.e. 23 october?

Thanks

The due date has nothing to do with application and it doesn't matter. RCMP is usually requested once eligibility test is passed while updated once your pass both eligibility and admissibility test. As long as your file is moving there is nothing to worry about.

 

[BillHyatt]

Hi @BillHyatt. My BGC status has just been recently updated from NA to “We are processing your background check...”. However, my eligibily status hasn’t changed yet saying they’re still reviewing. By the way, my application has been forwarded to my local VO in the end of September so I guess I’m in IP2?

Would appreciate your clarifications and additional info if there’s still any. Thanks.

You are in IP2 with Eligibility Pass and Medical & Criminality part of admissibility passed. I can't say if Security part of admissibility is ongoing or passed. You can call IRCC to confirm what needs to be done.

Eligibility status will not change so no need to worry. Good Luck.

 

[BillHyatt]

@BillHyatt

Hi Bill

A couple of queries:

1. If I have claimed points in ECA only for my Masters, do I still have to submit the scans of my entire education history - Bachelors/other education as part of uploads? Shouldn't uploading the Masters and ECA suffice?

2. Is it necessary to list and upload details of every bank and investment account you own (and get letters from them) as proof of funds, or is one bank/letter enough provided it meets the requirements adequately?

Thanks

1. You can submit only Masters however in the past there are plenty of cases where IRCC requested Bachelors or Post-Secondary Degrees that in itself are needed for Masters. However, for these, you are not required to have ECA.

2. One letter is sufficient if it covers funds.

I hope it answered your questions.

 

[nitink01]

Part 2 of 2: Most Common Reasons for Rejection
Do not agree with ECA part->ECA -> ECA report softCopy not required by IRCC if you mentioned the number to get the ITA under EE. If IRCC cannot locate your ECA with provided electronic reference with WES or other institute who conducted ECA, they will ask you for a copy and then take a decision. Please do not spread misinformation.
Most common is PCC:

a. Not included

b. No Coloured Scan attached

c. Dates don't cover complete period of stay (for e.g. you stayed in one address until 13th August but PCC cover dates till 31st July – don’t miss even one day)

d. The wrong PCC attached (includes not attaching PCC where you have lived more than 6 months – calculate your stay duration by adding all stays and include PCC if combine stay is 180 days or more)

e. LOE: Not writing explanation of why you weren’t able to attach PCC required and what you have done so far – attach evidence such as PCC Application submitted

f. Incomplete Documents – Some countries require additional documents such as consent forms for IRCC to directly get info therefore, it is important to read carefully CIC Guidance for each specific country before applying.

g. States PCC – Some countries do not have Central/Federal PCC System and therefore, you are advised to get PCC from all states you have lived (For work, study, and residential purpose excluding short stays). In addition, read CIC guidance, as they sometimes require Federal PCC as well instead of just State PCC.

h. Change in Circumstance such as visiting country after having PCC will not remain valid so you need to be careful and may need to apply for PCC again.


Medical Reports:

a. This includes failure to get Upfront Medical or After Letter from IRCC for any reason.

b. In addition, if you have any physical or mental issues the IRCC will reject your application and will advise you to set a meeting with your panellist for further advice or treatment plans – I know some people who recovered after some medication or physiatrist help and got PR later on.

c. Very rare but most significant error I saw was when one person submitted a report from a doctor who was not registered as approved panellist – see from CIC website before booking appointment.

d. Ensure you know what tests are required. Although, it is very rare on one occasion candidate only told panellist that she needs a test for Canada not indicating PR (nowadays for EE) and result was that Full Examination was not done resulting in rejection. {However, that panellist was dropped from approved list after short time but you must be careful if you are not booking appointment from well-reputed institute or Doctor.}


Conversion of Files:

a. Only convert files in the approved format and not just what suits best to you

b. If you are using software’s or online tools for PDF conversion then it is recommended to test it on different readers (such as Foxit or Adobe) before submitting. IRCC will be using Adobe Acrobat so make sure your files (all pages) will open in it. There is a case where IRCC rejected the incomplete application due to files not opening in Adobe (file was converted using Foxit).

c. Your documents must be clear and readable after reducing its size (it is recommended to not have a file below 150)

d. Always convert or scan your file in Color version unless where states by the IRCC to have a grayscale or black and white.


Passport and Visa Status:

a. It is important to attach your Passports and Residential Cards (if applicable) along with your file.

b. Make sure all pages with stamps are also included as IRCC rejected the application in past for not having a stamp for existing of one of the countries.


Education:

a. Not including ECA report or only including ECA number

b. Not including Degrees and Transcripts – please note that IRCC will reject incomplete files unlike OINP, which asks for additional information.

c. If you have distant learning course or studied in a different country than where the Institute is located then include this in Letter of Explanation and clearly mention your status.


Experience:

a. Not including Job responsibility letters or not matching with NOC.

b. Documents submitted cannot be verified the due lack of information of company available online.

c. Company registered in the house or residential area that may raise the question on quality of work performed.

d. Could not answer questions or satisfy officer during a formal interview.


These are the most common Reasons identified from the sample of more than 1,000 applicants in 2016/17.

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Part 2 of 2: Most Common Reasons for Rejection

Most common is PCC:

a. Not included

b. No Coloured Scan attached

c. Dates don't cover complete period of stay (for e.g. you stayed in one address until 13th August but PCC cover dates till 31st July – don’t miss even one day)

d. The wrong PCC attached (includes not attaching PCC where you have lived more than 6 months – calculate your stay duration by adding all stays and include PCC if combine stay is 180 days or more)

e. LOE: Not writing explanation of why you weren’t able to attach PCC required and what you have done so far – attach evidence such as PCC Application submitted

f. Incomplete Documents – Some countries require additional documents such as consent forms for IRCC to directly get info therefore, it is important to read carefully CIC Guidance for each specific country before applying.

g. States PCC – Some countries do not have Central/Federal PCC System and therefore, you are advised to get PCC from all states you have lived (For work, study, and residential purpose excluding short stays). In addition, read CIC guidance, as they sometimes require Federal PCC as well instead of just State PCC.

h. Change in Circumstance such as visiting country after having PCC will not remain valid so you need to be careful and may need to apply for PCC again.


Medical Reports:

a. This includes failure to get Upfront Medical or After Letter from IRCC for any reason.

b. In addition, if you have any physical or mental issues the IRCC will reject your application and will advise you to set a meeting with your panellist for further advice or treatment plans – I know some people who recovered after some medication or physiatrist help and got PR later on.

c. Very rare but most significant error I saw was when one person submitted a report from a doctor who was not registered as approved panellist – see from CIC website before booking appointment.

d. Ensure you know what tests are required. Although, it is very rare on one occasion candidate only told panellist that she needs a test for Canada not indicating PR (nowadays for EE) and result was that Full Examination was not done resulting in rejection. {However, that panellist was dropped from approved list after short time but you must be careful if you are not booking appointment from well-reputed institute or Doctor.}


Conversion of Files:

a. Only convert files in the approved format and not just what suits best to you

b. If you are using software’s or online tools for PDF conversion then it is recommended to test it on different readers (such as Foxit or Adobe) before submitting. IRCC will be using Adobe Acrobat so make sure your files (all pages) will open in it. There is a case where IRCC rejected the incomplete application due to files not opening in Adobe (file was converted using Foxit).

c. Your documents must be clear and readable after reducing its size (it is recommended to not have a file below 150)

d. Always convert or scan your file in Color version unless where states by the IRCC to have a grayscale or black and white.


Passport and Visa Status:

a. It is important to attach your Passports and Residential Cards (if applicable) along with your file.

b. Make sure all pages with stamps are also included as IRCC rejected the application in past for not having a stamp for existing of one of the countries.


Education:

a. Not including ECA report or only including ECA number

b. Not including Degrees and Transcripts – please note that IRCC will reject incomplete files unlike OINP, which asks for additional information.

c. If you have distant learning course or studied in a different country than where the Institute is located then include this in Letter of Explanation and clearly mention your status.


Experience:

a. Not including Job responsibility letters or not matching with NOC.

b. Documents submitted cannot be verified the due lack of information of company available online.

c. Company registered in the house or residential area that may raise the question on quality of work performed.

d. Could not answer questions or satisfy officer during a formal interview.


These are the most common Reasons identified from the sample of more than 1,000 applicants in 2016/17.