Possibility to pass medical test for a person who suffered brain stroke recently

[tuhin_40]

Hi,

I applied for my parents and my younger brother in 2007. But, in 2011, unfortunately my father has suffered from a brain stroke, and now he can not walk independently without the support of others. They have received a letter last week asking them to attend the medical test. I would like to know from the experts, and from the experienced people in this forum, how much possibility does my father have to overcome the medical test successfully? As it's very easy to recognize his disability to walk independently by visual inspection, I am really worried about his medical test. Will they consider the supports he needs in this stage from me, and will they allow him to come in Canada? Please let me know.


Best regards,

Roy

 

[parker24]

Hi,

I applied for my parents and my younger brother in 2007. But, in 2011, unfortunately my father has suffered from a brain stroke, and now he can not walk independently without the support of others. They have received a letter last week asking them to attend the medical test. I would like to know from the experts, and from the experienced people in this forum, how much possibility does my father have to overcome the medical test successfully? As it's very easy to recognize his disability to walk independently by visual inspection, I am really worried about his medical test. Will they consider the supports he needs in this stage from me, and will they allow him to come in Canada? Please let me know.


Best regards,

Roy

I'm not ENTIRELY sure, but he should be okay. They are going to do blood work and xrays. Plus a full physical. Considering your father is just having issues with walking, I don't think it would be that big of a deal, he'd just need a walker. He's not going to pass this on to someone else. Like I said, I'm not 100% sure, but that's what I believe they would see it as.

 

[scylla]

I'm very sorry to hear about your father. I think it's certainly possible there will be issues with the medical examination. If CIC believes he will be a burden to Canada's social system (this includes Canada's health care system) - then you will receive a procedural fairness letter indicating that CIC believes your father will be a burden and should be refused. You will then have an opportunity to respond to this letter. I would recommend that you read the following to familiarize yourself with this process:

http://www.cic.gc.ca/english/resources/manuals/bulletins/2009/ob063b.asp

No one here can tell you for certain what will happen during the medical - however I think it would be good for you to read up and be prepared just in case.

Good luck.

 

[tuhin_40]

Thank you parker24 and scylla for your informative replies. I also hope that CIC will consider this situation sympathetically. Thank you guys once again for your great help.

Roy

 

[canadianwoman]

At the medical try to stress to the doctor that your father only needs help with walking and is getting better (if that is true). There is a certain amount of health care costs that CIC will consider normal, and if they think your dad will exceed this amount, they can refuse him. But you will get a chance (with the procedural fairness letter) to explain why you think he should be allowed to immigrate.
Some people have promised to pay for any treatment necessary for their family member who the CIC has rejected for medical reasons, and then the person has been allowed to immigrate. This would be an issue you would bring up only if the visa officer says his PR visa will be refused on medical grounds.

It may be that he will 'pass' the physical anyway. I hope so. Anyway, good luck.

 

[RM15]

I guess it won`t be a problem as long as the illness is not communicable and that he is not going to be a burden to the Canadian healthcare. I know of someone whose husband had a stroke about a couple of years ago. He has a Lt side paralysis, able to walk but with a lot of difficulty. Fortunately, he passed the medical exam and the sponsorship was approved, and he landed in Canada this year. So don`t despair, just continue praying for him and hope for a considerate immigration officer to handle your papers. All the best!

 

[tuyen]

Hi,

I applied for my parents and my younger brother in 2007. But, in 2011, unfortunately my father has suffered from a brain stroke, and now he can not walk independently without the support of others. They have received a letter last week asking them to attend the medical test. I would like to know from the experts, and from the experienced people in this forum, how much possibility does my father have to overcome the medical test successfully? As it's very easy to recognize his disability to walk independently by visual inspection, I am really worried about his medical test. Will they consider the supports he needs in this stage from me, and will they allow him to come in Canada? Please let me know.

Sorry to hear about your dad. Strokes are vicious things that show no mercy.

It's difficult to speculate on things like this, because it all depends on the person/people who are reviewing your father's medical results.

My own personal guess: he will most likely be given approval because his condition isn't one that requires constant treatment by nurses or doctors around the clock. He can still function, but needs the help of family members. Also, his condition isn't some kind of highly-communicable disease, so he poses no risk to public health.

 

[Alice.a1]

I am sorry for your father, about canada I am almost sure that will not be problem.

my father also suffered from a brain stroke since almost 18 years.
his medicene just a pill every day to maintains the blood thinners
the Muscles will be strong again with sport
this illness Disappears over time like what happened with my father
so there is no costs of treating makes canada consedering his sick as a burden.

your father will be fine and will walk again enshallah

 

[Bea28]

I am anxious myself as my husband suffered a recent stroke in October of 2013. He is able to walk now on a cane with help yet he still has speech problems.. He is currently in the USA waiting for me to get him over here.. He really does not need any medical care just a bit of rehab.My question is: does he have to pass the medical before we put in the papers? I have posted this question before but alas no one could answer me.. Hope you guys can help out and it was reassuring to read that some people passed..Thank you

 

[Ponga]

I am anxious myself as my husband suffered a recent stroke in October of 2013. He is able to walk now on a cane with help yet he still has speech problems.. He is currently in the USA waiting for me to get him over here.. He really does not need any medical care just a bit of rehab.My question is: does he have to pass the medical before we put in the papers? I have posted this question before but alas no one could answer me.. Hope you guys can help out and it was reassuring to read that some people passed..Thank you

Uh...I guess you didn't see my reply to your question.
http://www.canadavisa.com/canada-immigration-discussion-board/spousal-sponsorship-t46995.0.html;msg2875542#msg2875542

 

[MofC2014]

Medical inadmissibility varies greatly between spousal and parent sponsorships. With respect to spousal, having had a stroke and needing rehab is not something that can bar the sponsorship as "excessive demand" cannot be used as a reason for refusal under medical inadmissibility under spousal sponsorship category.

With parent sponsorship, as others have mentioned there is a greater potential risk of being refused if CIC believes there will be a burden to Canada's health care system, but again even with this, it can be overcome, and may not even be an issue if there is no underlying medical condition which caused the stroke (ie. Coronary Artery Disease, diabetes etc.)

here are some cases that went on appeal, some were successful, some not. I think it is best to start obtaining evidence from doctors and specialists that treat(ed) your dad to get opinions that there is improvement in his condition and although a full recovery may not be possible, his health has not worsened and will likely improve more over time.

https://www.canlii.org/en/search/search.do?text=sponsorship%20medical%20stroke%20parent&type=decision&ccId=cisr

 

[wowsers]

I am uncertain what treatment is required for a person who suffers from a stroke affecting his mobility. I guess it must vary from person to person. The principles which CIC will apply are however clear. Regulation 38(1)(c) provides as follows: <<A foreign national is inadmissible on health grounds if their health condition (c) might reasonably be expected to cause excessive demand on health or social services>> Later on in the same regulation the principles in Regulation 38(1)(c) are made inapplicable to applications under the family class by (inter alia) spouses and common law partners. So Bea 28 will not face the same difficulties as Tuhin_40. The issues applicable to parents were carefully considered in Deol v Canada 2002 FCA 271, which merits careful reading. I am not going to try to refer to every aspect of the judgment, but at paragraph 46 it is said that <<it is not possible to enforce a personal undertaking to pay for health services that may be required after a person has been admitted to Canada as a permanent resident if the services are available without payment.>> Various other arguments by the appellant aimed at disapplying Regulation 38(1)(c), such as the availability of private insurance, financial ability to pay for treatment, or an undertaking to reimburse the cost of services were rejected. So I am somewhat surprised to read that part of Canadianwoman's post which states that a promise to pay for treatment has enabled some persons to immigrate. So far as I am aware that is not how the regulation is applied. I agree with Scylla: it is possible that there will be issues. For example I suspect some medication, possibly some physiotherapy, possibly some physical alterations to the home may be required. If CIC finds that such services would be available under the health system and that the cost of them would be excessive a rejection on health grounds would be likely to follow. As I recollect however these principles do not apply to a person who seeks admission as an immigrant on compassionate or humanitarian grounds. Possibly that is an avenue of inquiry which Tuhin_40 should explore.

 

[Bea28]

Thanks for all your valuable info..Sorry I have not been on for a while as my husband is with me right now and we are now using the inland route. Contacted my Mp's office and they confirmed what you guys were writing about. My husband is doing physio but that is done privately anyways and does not require AHS. Same with massage and prescriptions we pay privately for. My husband is retired and has the funds to do fulfill those needs..Hopefully we won't face anymore hurdles..

 

[asereiimaf]

is there a possibility to pass medical test for my husband suffering diabetes

i am currently applying for a permanent residence in canada under the live in caregiver prog. my 3 dependents passed the medical,but my husband is still under medical examination because of his diabetes?.is there a possibility for my husband to pass his medical exam...i am very much worried,please help me

 

[scylla]

Re: is there a possibility to pass medical test for my husband suffering diabetes

i am currently applying for a permanent residence in canada under the live in caregiver prog. my 3 dependents passed the medical,but my husband is still under medical examination because of his diabetes?.is there a possibility for my husband to pass his medical exam...i am very much worried,please help me

It's impossible for any of us to say. It will depend on the severity of his diabetes and how much CIC believes this will cost in terms of health care benefits each years.