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jomz

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mikeymyke said:
Bottom line is everyone needs to ignore the posted times and stop worrying about how long it will take, and instead, just work hard on your application, and you will find yourself getting your COPR way faster than you realize.
Completely agree with the above. I applied for my husband's sponsorship at one of the most difficult VOs (due to high marriage fraud), although their posted timeline was 8 months from receipt of application, because we submitted a very strong application my husband had his COPR in 3.5 months and thats with an interview (which is standard for our VO as 99% cases have interviews), I might add that we had some "red flags" as well, I am older than my husband (4 yrs), we have different cultural backgrounds, my parents did not attend the wedding, and still we were approved in less than half of the posted processing times. So bottom line, it is up to the sponsor and applicant to make the review of file, and decision easier for the officer.
 

ABCml

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It definitely appears that all who have been fortunate with their process will "disagree" with this petition - and those less fortunate will "agree"

...and, of course no "impartial observers" exist ::)
 

jomz

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ABCml said:
It definitely appears that all who have been fortunate with their process will "disagree" with this petition - and those less fortunate will "agree"

...and, of course no "impartial observers" exist ::)
It is not a case of agree or disagree. Nor are those who were processed quickly just "fortunate". We just put in our time before applying, to make sure our applications are easy to review and approve, and that the VO doesnt unnecessarily question anything, or asks for additional information, which in turn delays the processing.

As for petitions by non Canadians in Canada, well I can guarantee that their petitions mean nothing in the eyes of the government. Also personally I know of one couple who were denied, appealed, denied etc. in a process that took nearly 7 years (2004 to 2011). I helped gather signatures to appeal to the minister would re-open and reconsider their file. This involved canvassing door to door, obtaining more than 5000 signatures from Canadian Citizens, and in the end, the request was denied.

I am all for helping a good cause, but it has to be organized in a legal fashion, confirming to the rules of petitions in Canada, otherwise, it is really just a waste of everyone's time as the government is not obligated to even review a petition unless same is signed by thousands of Canadian Citizens.
 
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mikeymyke

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Also, sometimes an application can take longer to process because the applicant missed little things, like a signature, incorrect or missing information, etc.

Take for example, the two people on this thread who don't like the longer processing times. One of them didn't realize that if you paid your RPRF fee upfront, you can speed up your application, if she had read all the instructions carefully she would've seen it.

And the other one made the mistake of hiring a lawyer who gives bad advice, such as telling him that he shouldn't order GCMS notes because it might delay his application. If he hired a better lawyer, maybe he would've been able to help him submit a better application and avoid the interview that he eventually got, but thank god he passed the interview at least.
 

keesio

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ABCml said:
It definitely appears that all who have been fortunate with their process will "disagree" with this petition - and those less fortunate will "agree"

...and, of course no "impartial observers" exist ::)
Most people have issues with the WORDING of the petition (especially the title), not the spirit of the petition. For example, I think it is absolutely ridiculous that some applications can take years. This includes sponsorship and citizenship. That, to me, is not acceptable. Every standard (no major red flags) application should, more or less, be processed in less than a year.
 

rastydiana

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Just signed, it is absolutely ridiculous - they stopped processing inland apps at the end of July...

Please sign my petition - to change "implied status" terms - ipetitions.com/petition/stop-punishing-people-in-implied-status-and
 

brucem

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rastydiana said:
Just signed, it is absolutely ridiculous - they stopped processing inland apps at the end of July...

Please sign my petition - to change "implied status" terms - ipetitions.com/petition/stop-punishing-people-in-implied-status-and
I am setting up a petition against the petitions. www.stopbeingawhinyimmigrant.com.
 

rhcohen2014

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brucem said:
I am setting up a petition against the petitions. www.stopbeingawhinyimmigrant.com.
ha! glad there are others out there who are sick of it too. :)
 

brucem

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rhcohen2014 said:
ha! glad there are others out there who are sick of it too. :)
Amen to that!!
 

ghinak

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fugaziosbourne said:
There is already a petition for this on Change.org which does not insult the people(government) they are trying to persuade to change the laws.

We also have a facebook group which is writing media outlets and politicians and politely asking for help. Chris Alexander(Minister of Citizenship and Immigration) actually joined the group which is a good sign.





Harper's government is destroying everyone's life due to its ridiculous immigration policies for family class sponsorship.
Not everyone, just a small group of people in the overall scheme of things.

First of all we have to fill in over 100 pages by hand.
We did ours on a computer and only had to sign our signatures

Then there is a $1100 cost to sponsor your spouse
The CIC isn't a charitable organization.

Finally comes the worst part, your file gets transfered to Visa office and sets there for over a year and no one touches them.
Transferred was spelled wrong. It may appear your files aren't being touched but since none of us work there we can't say for sure.

Everyday people gets divorced because of this long wait.
Anecdotal evidence which can't be proven.

This government is not treating everyone the same some people from certain countries can sponsor their family in less than 6 months while others have to wait for 2 or 3 years before they get visa.
I'm just speculating on this one but its probably easier to share information with certain countries which would make the process go faster. Once again...I'm not sure.

I am starting this petition, so this corrupt government can listen to everyone's cry and reduce the spouse (family class sponsorship ) processing times to 3 months as it was in Liberals government back then.
Calling any government corrupt is probably not going to get you on their good side. Also comparing them to the last government isn't going to help.

Also get rid of all this papers we have to fill out.
It isn't that difficult to fill this paperwork out. I'd rather them do intensive checks than letting war criminals and other unsavoury sorts be fast tracked.

Join the US, and get on with technology and make everything online.
You said you filled out over 100 pages by hand when you can do it online. That one is on you, not the government. You also insulted them again by comparing them to the States.
Hello,I totally agree with you. Is there a group for the Outland spousal sponsorship petitioners?
 

fugaziosbourne

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ghinak said:
Hello,I totally agree with you. Is there a group for the Outland spousal sponsorship petitioners?
Not that I know of but you should start one. The guy who created ours is doing a great job. I'm not sure what his username on here is.
 

Christoph100

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A lot of people on here forget that this is a process and in this process there are lots of requests and verification for information between Government departments, and agencies of Canada and between other countries and there Governmental departments and out source agencies as well. All this verifying takes time and some countries that the visa process requests information from are slower then others to give that information back to Canadian offices.

Perhaps all these petitions should be looking at not only Canada but how about the countries of the applicants themselves and have their own Government speed up the sharing of the requested information, So Canadian authorities can make quicker informed decisions on applicants.

Canada asks a lot of information now to help protect its citizens from fraud and that has slowed the process down compared to years past. I admit 2yrs is too much but maybe its time to look at the applicants Government and not always blame the Canadian system.

Chris
 

ghinak

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fugaziosbourne said:
Not that I know of but you should start one. The guy who created ours is doing a great job. I'm not sure what his username on here is.
Okay thank you..Maybe I will :)
Chris you are partially right , after all no one needs Outlaws coming to their countries .But you know among the documents we submit in our application they can find every information(official documents ...) they might need for background check. Does it really require almost 2 years to check say on a spouse well established in his/her job in his/her country.Noting that ,for the first step ,since the sponsor is Canadian it's really easy to do all the related background check on him/her.And really who in their right mind would be in a relationship with a criminal(given that they are not duped which might be one case in a million ) ??!
 

brucem

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I think what people also fail to remember is there is also a political agenda to all of this. I have said before in other posts immigration is becoming increasingly unpopular and the UK and France are prime examples of where tensions are getting to breaking point and new political parties have jumped on the bandwaggon and stoked tensions.

Have a read of this article in the Toronto Star last year.

http://www.thestar.com/news/immigration/2013/05/08/immigrant_underclass_in_gta_fuels_simmering_frustrations.html

I do agree that it feels unfair for such long processing times but as Chris pointed out there are numerous factors involved and everyones case is individual. It is not in any politicians interests to speed up processing times and further fuel a somewhat saturated urban community such as Toronto where large numbers settle.

In reality if you decrease processing times to a few months you increase the number of people applying and the number of fradulent applications. You then have large numbers of people entering an already saturated work market, causing tensions with not only Canadians but also immigrants who have already settled. We have seen that the free movement of those within the European Union has caused huge strains on the more affluent countries resources such as schools, health and social care. This means more money needs to be spent to provide and build services for the new and existing populations. That money has to come from somewhere....and whether immigrants pay for themselves through taxes is a whole different argument.

Its a political minefield so remember when you start these petitions there is a lot more to it than simply one factor. Look at it logically, if those who are applying to immigrate to Canada start causing problems before they have even been granted approval, I doubt it will sit very well with the majority of the population bearing in mind Canada has a Conservative government. My two cents for today.
 

keesio

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Christoph100 said:
Perhaps all these petitions should be looking at not only Canada but how about the countries of the applicants themselves and have their own Government speed up the sharing of the requested information, So Canadian authorities can make quicker informed decisions on applicants.
+1

BINGO! People are always raging on Canada and CIC for being slow but remember it takes two to tango. It is no small secret that some countries have so much red tape or disorganized or simply does not want to share information and it makes it hell to get information on its citizens. You read about people waiting for marriage licenses and other important documentation in their home country and saying that to get any progress, you need to slip a city worker a few extra $$$ to get you ahead in the queue. Or people who come from a small village where it is common to not have an official birth certificate. Some governments are simply hostile to CIC requests (ok, hostile is too strong but they don't have a positive attitude about it). Some people blame CIC for favoritism towards other countries, like the US with their timelines. There is a cost associated with that as I mentioned, the info sharing between the two countries is at an all time high... honestly.. it is too high and infringes on peoples privacy (but that is a whole other topic). Even health records and driving records are easily shared between US and Canada (remember the US border official denying a Canadian from entering the US because he had concerns about her medical history since she took meds for bipolar?). Now if information flows easily with all countries like it does with the US and Canada, then CIC has no excuse.