Please guys I need a convincing and re-assuring answer

[istari]

Guys as it stands now, I removed the two degrees, so my score fell from 477 to 445. I am trying to get the Ontario PNP and being safe is better. BUT in case i don't get it by end of August, I need to know if I can bump it up to 477 again as there will be better chance. Does someone know whom i can ask or something? Any new ideas? This is the only place i can get help at the moment. Thanks.

CIC's EDUCATIONAL CREDENTIAL ASSESSMENT CONVERSION TABLE (http://www.cic.gc.ca/english/information/applications/guides/pdf/ECA_table_EN.pdf) says:
"Post-secondary educational credentials could also include Post-Bachelor's or Post-Graduate Credentials as follows: Post-Bachelor's
Certificate; Post-Bachelor's Diploma; Graduate Certificate; Postgraduate certificate; Postgraduate Diploma; a two-year Postgraduate Diploma,
specializing in [name of discipline]; a one-year Postgraduate Certificate in [name of discipline]; and, Study Toward a Master's Degree."

So you can claim 2 or more degrees, according to CIC's official table.

 

[Aal_]

CIC's EDUCATIONAL CREDENTIAL ASSESSMENT CONVERSION TABLE (http://www.cic.gc.ca/english/information/applications/guides/pdf/ECA_table_EN.pdf) says:
"Post-secondary educational credentials could also include Post-Bachelor's or Post-Graduate Credentials as follows: Post-Bachelor's
Certificate; Post-Bachelor's Diploma; Graduate Certificate; Postgraduate certificate; Postgraduate Diploma; a two-year Postgraduate Diploma,
specializing in [name of discipline]; a one-year Postgraduate Certificate in [name of discipline]; and, Study Toward a Master's Degree."

So you can claim 2 or more degrees, according to CIC's official table.

Thanks but 2 things here: in the ECA conversion html page (how to read your report), they removed this Study Toward's Masters, and second, my ECA doesn't say explicitly Study Towards Masters. I am trying to claim that I did 2 years post graduate studies that were recognized in the ECA summary, but not recognized as a degree. In other places people are telling me you cannot claim points for non-degree awarding studies. That is the confusion. Does CIC look at the equivalency, or implicitly the local credential should be a degree but recognized as postgraduate 1 or 2 years of study?

 

[istari]

Thanks but 2 things here: in the ECA conversion html page (how to read your report), they removed this Study Toward's Masters, and second, my ECA doesn't say explicitly Study Towards Masters. I am trying to claim that I did 2 years post graduate studies that were recognized in the ECA summary, but not recognized as a degree. In other places people are telling me you cannot claim points for non-degree awarding studies. That is the confusion. Does CIC look at the equivalency, or implicitly the local credential should be a degree but recognized as postgraduate 1 or 2 years of study?

Oh, I see. Thanks for the correction. Sorry I can't be of any help.

 

[concorde]

Thanks. That is my issue. How can i be careful? so the second detail of my assessment it says it is not comparable to a canadian degree (which is correct there is no degree) but the equivalency is two years of graduate study. Also it appears in the summary at the header Bachelor and two years of graduate study.

I just don't know if i risk it and change my profile to be later rejected

The whole idea behind getting your education credentials assessed is to see how your educationa equates against canadian standards. If it says NOT COMPARABLE TO CANADIAN DEGREE, (IMO) points that although you did graduate 2 yrs study (from a recognized institute I would imagine), but since you did not complete it, it cannot be awarded points for.

Chose Bachelors', wait for OINP, that would be a safer option.

 

[Aal_]

The whole idea behind getting your education credentials assessed is to see how your educationa equates against canadian standards. If it says NOT COMPARABLE TO CANADIAN DEGREE, (IMO) points that although you did graduate 2 yrs study (from a recognized institute I would imagine), but since you did not complete it, it cannot be awarded points for.

Chose Bachelors', wait for OINP, that would be a safer option.

I agree but then why would they consider bachelor plus 1 year of graduate study as 2 degrees?

 

[concorde]

I agree but then why would they consider bachelor plus 1 year of graduate study as 2 degrees?

Because they can't equate your education that you did, to zero even if it is not recognized in Canada. Had it been completed, things may/would have been different.

It could be that the OP although embark on his Masters but in the one yr that he studied, couldn't accrue equivalent credits for a canadian PG diploma either. So although they are acknowledging you dis technically study for one yr (which is reflected in your transcripts), and would stand should you chose to complete the remaining courses toward ls the masters, but on its own, it is not good enough to be counted as a credential on its own.

 

[bestofluck]

I agree but then why would they consider bachelor plus 1 year of graduate study as 2 degrees?

yes. because you must have send some documents from University to WES which they have verified. They will not verify on the basis of only transcripts. they need some certificate with the transcript, so you can opt for 2 or more degrees.

Note: Only if you have some form of certificate ( which shows you credits achieved) along with transcript you must opt for 2 or more degrees. IF ECA is given only on transcripts you sent, ts better you opt for bachelors only.

 

[Aal_]

yes. because you must have send some documents from University to WES which they have verified. They will not verify on the basis of only transcripts. they need some certificate with the transcript, so you can opt for 2 or more degrees.

Note: Only if you have some form of certificate ( which shows you credits achieved) along with transcript you must opt for 2 or more degrees. IF ECA is given only on transcripts you sent, ts better you opt for bachelors only.

Are you talking here about WES or CIC. Because what I have sent are transcripts for both my undergrad and grad studies. So what happened is that WES put in the report that my Bachelor is equivalent to a Bachelor, and the other transcript, which is a total of 24 credit hours american system, says on the top (of the transcript) graduate level, and in the degree awarded it's blank. So WES put in their 2nd section of the report that the degree is "academic transcript" and the equivalency is 2 years of graduate study and not comparable to a canadian degree. Until now all is good. But in the "How to Read your Report" page they don't specify anything related to you local degrees, they just say if you have ECA of Bachelor AND x years of graduate studies then it is 2 or more, which is what i have in the summary of the ECA. Now if they implicitly mean that these 2 years of graduate study should only be considered when the original local credential is a degree, then it is clear for me. It is rather confusing as it is now. Do you have any proof that says otherwise?

 

[Akko]

Hello,

I have the same situation did you manage to get any answer??

 

[Aal_]

Hello,

I have the same situation did you manage to get any answer??

I didn't risk it. And it doesn't work anymore anyway since it calculates dual degrees on its own in the system now.

 

[Mthornt]

Hello,

I have the same situation did you manage to get any answer??

Pretty sure that when you submit the, you must also either submit the actual scan of the degree in color, or you must submit transcripts stating that you actually completed and graduated from the program.