please can you clarify section 3 in an adult application

[montrealita]

please can you calcify this section in an adult application
Biographical page of passport(s)/travel document(s)
Provide photocopies of the biographical pages of all passports and/or travel documents (valid and cancelled) for the six (6) year period immediately before the date of your application, or since you became a permanent resident, whichever is more recent.

my question is, do i have to cover exactly 6 years or only the time as a permanent resident ? i have 3 passports that cover the mentioned time and the oldest doesn't even have the landing stamp on it

I landed and stayed in 2013 i copied and translated passport stamps that covers from July 2012 until present day June 2017 (planing to apply on the 25th of June )

please help because the translation of the stamps on passport are really expensive

Thanking you in advance

 

[mickey_mouse]

please can you calcify this section in an adult application
Biographical page of passport(s)/travel document(s)
Provide photocopies of the biographical pages of all passports and/or travel documents (valid and cancelled) for the six (6) year period immediately before the date of your application, or since you became a permanent resident, whichever is more recent.

my question is, do i have to cover exactly 6 years or only the time as a permanent resident ? i have 3 passports that cover the mentioned time and the oldest doesn't even have the landing stamp on it

I landed and stayed in 2013 i copied and translated passport stamps that covers from July 2012 until present day June 2017 (planing to apply on the 25th of June )

please help because the translation of the stamps on passport are really expensive

Thanking you in advance

It says 6 years or since you became permanent recent whichever is more recent. So more recent is since you became permanent resident i-e from the date when you landed. So no need to include 6 years..

 

[dpenabill]

As already noted, date you became a PR (date of landing) is the operative date if that is less than six years prior to the date you make the application.

The other key, however, is the date the passport was cancelled. Unless it was cancelled prior to the date of landing, it should be included. Does not matter whether that passport was used at all since the date of landing (or ever used for that matter -- but obviously yours was).

Thus, for a PR who landed less than six years prior to applying for citizenship, a passport that was cancelled before the date the PR landed does NOT need to be included.

In contrast, if the passport was not cancelled until more recently than the date of landing, it should be included.

So far as can be discerned, this is still a critical aspect of the application process. IRCC and historically CIC have long approached even the mere hint of an absent Travel Document with elevated scrutiny and typically a lot of skepticism. There are few things a qualified applicant can do (beyond outright discrepancies or omissions) which are likely to knock the application off the routine track more than something which invites IRCC to suspect the applicant has not presented all possibly relevant passports.

In general, better to err on the side of inclusion . . . but if the additional expense is prohibitive, as long as you are confident the older passport had no possible validity as of the date of landing, it should be safe to not include it.

 

[montrealita]

As already noted, date you became a PR (date of landing) is the operative date if that is less than six years prior to the date you make the application.

The other key, however, is the date the passport was cancelled. Unless it was cancelled prior to the date of landing, it should be included. Does not matter whether that passport was used at all since the date of landing (or ever used for that matter -- but obviously yours was).

Thus, for a PR who landed less than six years prior to applying for citizenship, a passport that was cancelled before the date the PR landed does NOT need to be included.

In contrast, if the passport was not cancelled until more recently than the date of landing, it should be included.

So far as can be discerned, this is still a critical aspect of the application process. IRCC and historically CIC have long approached even the mere hint of an absent Travel Document with elevated scrutiny and typically a lot of skepticism. There are few things a qualified applicant can do (beyond outright discrepancies or omissions) which are likely to knock the application off the routine track more than something which invites IRCC to suspect the applicant has not presented all possibly relevant passports.

In general, better to err on the side of inclusion . . . but if the additional expense is prohibitive, as long as you are confident the older passport had no possible validity as of the date of landing, it should be safe to not include it.

Thanks for your reply, after reading your message i checked my passport it was indeed cancelled before my landing date ,but sadly your reply came too late i already sent the passport for translation, now i will enclose it with my application just for the sake of the money i spent

 

[mickey_mouse]

As already noted, date you became a PR (date of landing) is the operative date if that is less than six years prior to the date you make the application.

The other key, however, is the date the passport was cancelled. Unless it was cancelled prior to the date of landing, it should be included. Does not matter whether that passport was used at all since the date of landing (or ever used for that matter -- but obviously yours was).

Thus, for a PR who landed less than six years prior to applying for citizenship, a passport that was cancelled before the date the PR landed does NOT need to be included.

In contrast, if the passport was not cancelled until more recently than the date of landing, it should be included.

So far as can be discerned, this is still a critical aspect of the application process. IRCC and historically CIC have long approached even the mere hint of an absent Travel Document with elevated scrutiny and typically a lot of skepticism. There are few things a qualified applicant can do (beyond outright discrepancies or omissions) which are likely to knock the application off the routine track more than something which invites IRCC to suspect the applicant has not presented all possibly relevant passports.

In general, better to err on the side of inclusion . . . but if the additional expense is prohibitive, as long as you are confident the older passport had no possible validity as of the date of landing, it should be safe to not include it.

such a long and complicated reply with no use at all. Why you complicate things and write lengthy and difficult to understand paragraphs which are totally useless. It says in simple words that previous passports should be included starting from the date of landing. It says to include last 6 years just in case if some one has not applied for a citizenship after a consecutive 4 years period when they become eligible. So when some one has included a passport which has a landing visa then then there is no need to include older passports. whether cancelled or not. It talks about valid or cancelled only after date of landing not before..As they are interested in seeing your travel and passports after you became permanent resident not before. Validity and checking of passports before you became permanent resident has already been checked when you had filed application for permanent resident (skilled worker) . I am talking with logic , hope it makes sense and you understand

And my 2 cents, avoid writing lengthy and complicated and difficult to understand notes which makes no sense and which are useless.

 

[montrealita]

such a long and complicated reply with no use at all. Why you complicate things and write lengthy and difficult to understand paragraphs which are totally useless. It says in simple words that previous passports should be included starting from the date of landing. It says to include last 6 years just in case if some one has not applied for a citizenship after a consecutive 4 years period when they become eligible. So when some one has included a passport which has a landing visa then then there is no need to include older passports. whether cancelled or not. It talks about valid or cancelled only after date of landing not before..As they are interested in seeing your travel and passports after you became permanent resident not before. Validity and checking of passports before you became permanent resident has already been checked when you had filed application for permanent resident (skilled worker) . I am talking with logic , hope it makes sense and you understand

And my 2 cents, avoid writing lengthy and complicated and difficult to understand notes which makes no sense and which are useless.

Thank you both for your replies , i called the translator, luckily he didn't start working on them, so i cancelled it saving 245$