Petitioning CIC to improve inland processing time and grant Open Work Permit

[rhcohen2014]

So basically in Canada people who pay for their service have no say on how the system works. Because immigration is a privilege not a right and because they have to wait until the day they become citizens to have any influence on how the democracy works in this country, correct?

yes, basically that's how most governments work, isn't it? It's for the people who have voting rights in that country. And as other members have pointed out, immigration is not just paid for by our application fees, a good majority of it is paid for by the taxes of the citizens of canada. so i would imagine citizens of canada have a greater say as to how the country handles immigration.

while the lack of transparency and long wait times are frustrating, i am also grateful that Canada takes such care as to who they allow into their country. As a US citizen, i've seen the destruction of not doing so causes, as well the political/economic backlash caused by giving rights to those who do not have legal status.

 

[sunshinemrc]

Where do you get the number from? I would like to know more about the petition rules you mentioned.

So basically in Canada people who pay for their service have no say on how the system works. Because immigration is a privilege not a right and because they have to wait until the day they become citizens to have any influence on how the democracy works in this country, correct?

I respect your freedom of speech but you would be more respected if you can be more polite to the PR applicants. Calling their actions "worthless", have you ever recalled the moment before you come to this country or become PR? Like many people here, even me, we say thing based on personal guesses and judgement. You are not a government official (I hope so), so please stop raising your voice. You have your way. We have ours. Not happy the way we do? Nobody asks you to involve in this campaign with destructive words. This is my very last message personally addressed to you sunshinemrc.

Thanks

Civic, really you are delusional.

I stated the fact. Signatures of everyone who is not a Canadian PR or a Citizen of Canada are WORTHLESS in a petition to a Candian Government. Do you think I can go to the US as a non resident, non citizen and sign a petition for USA to change how their immigration works? As I said, you are delusional.

 

[Rob_TO]

So basically in Canada people who pay for their service have no say on how the system works. Because immigration is a privilege not a right and because they have to wait until the day they become citizens to have any influence on how the democracy works in this country, correct?

That is how EVERY country works, not just Canada.

Citizens don't have a direct say in how things work, they elect representatives (MPs) to the government, who will make changes on their behalf. So citizens can get their point across with their vote. You should be talking to your local MP to bring these issues up at the Federal level. If they don't want to or don't care, then you can vote for someone else who will.

No petition will ever be taken seriously by the government unless it has hundreds of thousands of Canadian's signatures, AND has intense and constant media attention behind it to make it a serious national issue (not just a random story here and there).

As I've said many times though, all citizens, PRs, and applicants are pretty much at the mercy of the government, because family class sponsorship will never be an issue important enough to the majority of voting Canadians to demand significant change. Just have to hope any given government is sympathetic enough to family class reunification, to invest more tax dollars into our immigration system to speed up processing times.

 

[gsize]

'while the lack of transparency and long wait times are frustrating, i am also grateful that Canada takes such care as to who they allow into their country'

thanks for the laugh !

As a third generation Canadian, I am disgusted what I and others have gone through. I can assure you, CIC has let in a lot of very dangerous people while excluding honest, hard working people.

 

[zardoz]

I would 100% support the petition to adopt the sibling sponsorship in lieu of parents/grandparents sponsorship.

The siblings will be able to contribute to Canada's economy and support the social system. This route makes a lot more economic sense over parents/grandparents. Parents/grandparents are nothing more than free babysitters and a strain on Canada health care.

That wouldn't work... First the sibling is sponsored, and then the sibling sponsors the parents. You'd end up with more people included in the long run, defeating the point of the exercise. Yes, it might take longer, but that's not the issue.

 

[screech339]

That wouldn't work... First the sibling is sponsored, and then the sibling sponsors the parents. You'd end up with more people included in the long run, defeating the point of the exercise. Yes, it might take longer, but that's not the issue.

If you read my message, I said in lieu of parents/sponsorship. In other words. Scrap the parents sponsorship completely and replace it with sibling sponsorship.

 

[zardoz]

If you read my message, I said in lieu of parents/sponsorship. In other words. Scrap the parents sponsorship completely and replace it with sibling sponsorship.

Ah, I see. Sorry, I thought you were referring to a case by case choice, rather than global.

Once comment I would make is in response to those discussing "family reunification". In many cases, what is actually being attempted is "family importation" because people are trying to migrate NEW family members such as foreign spouses into Canada. I don't know what the general Canadian population feels about this.. (I'm an example of this, so I have no "axe to grind".)

 

[Alurra71]

Ah, I see. Sorry, I thought you were referring to a case by case choice, rather than global.

Once comment I would make is in response to those discussing "family reunification". In many cases, what is actually being attempted is "family importation" because people are trying to migrate NEW family members such as foreign spouses into Canada. I don't know what the general Canadian population feels about this.. (I'm an example of this, so I have no "axe to grind".)

I get the distinct impression from the populace that I have encountered that know I am an immigrant have respect that my spouse and I took the time to do it legally. They have little to no tolerance (much like every other country in the world) for those that take it upon themselves to relocate into a new country and remain there illegally and then get pissed off when they aren't allowed all the same things a citizen of that country is allowed. That is my experience thus far with the Canadians in general.

 

[zardoz]

Civic, really you are delusional.

I stated the fact. Signatures of everyone who is not a Canadian PR or a Citizen of Canada are WORTHLESS in a petition to a Candian Government. Do you think I can go to the US as a non resident, non citizen and sign a petition for USA to change how their immigration works? As I said, you are delusional.

As this petition seems to only have accumulated 292 (ish) signatures since it was launched 5 days ago, I think that it will take some time to reach the required levels, if it ever does.

 

[automaton82]

That is how EVERY country works, not just Canada.

Citizens don't have a direct say in how things work, they elect representatives (MPs) to the government, who will make changes on their behalf. So citizens can get their point across with their vote. You should be talking to your local MP to bring these issues up at the Federal level. If they don't want to or don't care, then you can vote for someone else who will.

That's not entirely correct . There is direct democracy (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Direct_democracy) where people vote directly on issues instead of electing representatives, or holding referendums. Parts of Switzerland use this, and it's far more viable these days with electronic voting.

The downside of course (and the reason noted why the USA didn't adopt this system intentionally) is that minorities are always at a disadvantage.

 

[civic]

anyone know what happen for petition ??

CIC managers are informed of the petition. CPP-Mississauga is also provided with the signatures and comments striking the delay. You should see some pick up in processing time.

Toronto Star is preparing a full story about the affected couples and about the petition. Anyone of you who would like your difficulties be presented on news can contact:
Nicholas Keung
IMMIGRATION REPORTER
Toronto Star
416-460-7203
nkeung@thestar.ca

He is very keen to hear from us!!!!

 

[pari7896]

Hello,

I am one of the applicants impacted by the long processing times of the family sponsorship program. I have been living in Canada from march 2013 . only waiting for getting my work permit. I have work experience in MNC company. but unfortunately, not being able to get a job and contribute to the Canadian economy because I do not have a work permit. My husband is the only person who is earning and believe me it is very difficult to survive.

I am feeling sick and stressful sometime i am getting health problem but i do not have health coverage also

and also imposed by the family sponsorship program, we are not able to leave Canada and visit our family members who are located abroad.

I called to enquire about that, they told me they are working on july 11 applications and i applied in august according to general processing time my work permit should come at the end of this month. but they told me to call after 2 month means in august. it means the total processing time is 12 months not 10



This is very very stressful situation for me



Thanks,