Petition to the Minister of Immigration, Refugees and Citizenship

[qqbec]

Now it is official. We need to get 500 signatures by May 4, 2017 to have this petition presented in the Parliament.
If you care about sponsoring your parents now in future, please sign it today.

Petition to the Minister of Immigration, Refugees and Citizenship
Whereas:
Many people have prepared a Family Reunification Application for submission in 2017 only to be surprised by a sudden change;
No warnings were given which is causing family and financial hardship; and
Lottery system mocks a very serious family issue of reunification.
We, the undersigned, citizens and permanent residents of Canada, call upon the Minister of Immigration, Refugees and Citizenship to:
1. Repeal the December 2016 change until a more comprehensive plan can be formulated and give people the opportunity to provide feedback about the coming changes;
2. Phase the changes in over the course of a few years, allowing the people who have prepared for 2017 to submit as per usual; and
3. Give previous lottery losers priority in the subsequent years if they do not make it in previous year lottery.

petitions.parl.gc.ca/en/Petition/Details?Petition=e-739

(I can't post links)

 

[Rob_TO]

There's probably a dozen or so of these online petitions going around for parents sponsorship. In reality, they are useless.

 

[qqbec]

There's probably a dozen or so of these online petitions going around for parents sponsorship. In reality, they are useless.

I agree there are many petition posting websites. However, this one is not just a writing on the wall.

This petition is sponsored by the MP and it WILL GO to a Parliament HEARING only if we get at least 500 signatures.

The Hon. Marwan Tabbara
Kitchener South—Hespeler
Liberal
Ontario

 

[Bcboundboy]

You'll (hopefully) just get told the truth in the government response: that a lottery is far fairer than having a designated 48 hour annual submission window where if you live close enough to the office, or can pay someone to stand in line, you have an advantage.

 

[Rob_TO]

I agree there are many petition posting websites. However, this one is not just a writing on the wall.

This petition is sponsored by the MP and it WILL GO to a Parliament HEARING only if we get at least 500 signatures.

The Hon. Marwan Tabbara
Kitchener South—Hespeler
Liberal
Ontario

Doesn't make a difference.

Also the lottery system is already in process. So it's way too late to go back to the old system for 2017.

 

[qqbec]

You'll (hopefully) just get told the truth in the government response: that a lottery is far fairer than having a designated 48 hour annual submission window where if you live close enough to the office, or can pay someone to stand in line, you have an advantage.

It is worth to try than do nothing merely speculating on the government response. We already went that far and get the MP involved. The petition does need attention. Please sign and share.

 

[Bcboundboy]

It is worth to try than do nothing merely speculating on the government response. We already went that far and get the MP involved. The petition does need attention. Please sign and share.

Ummm.... I think my level of sympathy to this is shown in what I said the truth was the new system is far fairer than the old one, where people living in Toronto, having a lot of free time, or having lots of money, had a decided advantage. It's a good change. You should be celebrating your equal chances, instead of trying to reinstigate the old system of privilege. Have a coffee, and smile

 

[profiler]

I agree there are many petition posting websites. However, this one is not just a writing on the wall.

This petition is sponsored by the MP and it WILL GO to a Parliament HEARING only if we get at least 500 signatures.

The Hon. Marwan Tabbara
Kitchener South—Hespeler
Liberal
Ontario

Marwan Tabbara is a good guy... he helped us out...

If he's pitching it, I'll sign

 

[BethanyM]

I'm not up on the issue.
Why can't parental sponsorships just proceed in queue the same way that Spousal Sponsorships do?

 

[profiler]

I'm not up on the issue.
Why can't parental sponsorships just proceed in queue the same way that Spousal Sponsorships do?

Too many of them. So they had a "fill the quota day" once a year. The problem there is once its full, people had to wait a year to apply again. And heaven forbid you missed anything or had any paperwork wrong, your spot in the quita would be gone. So they did a wholesale change to a lottery...

I think the idea is to reassess PGP queues and correct the lottery.

 

[Bcboundboy]

I'm not up on the issue.
Why can't parental sponsorships just proceed in queue the same way that Spousal Sponsorships do?

Massively oversubscribed compared to annual quota.

Last few years, the system opened on a given day, and closed for the year 1-2 days later. That was it for the year. Applications received before then were refused. Applications received after then were refused.

This meant a massive advantage to people who live near Mississauga, or who had a lot of money to pay couriers/professional waiters to stand in the line, and hand deliver the app on the right day.

For this year, it's gone over to a lottery, where people will be invited to apply at random after registering online, and everyone will have an equal chance, wherever they live in Canada, and however much they're prepared to spend on postage/services.

 

[BethanyM]

Too many of them. So they had a "fill the quota day" once a year. The problem there is once its full, people had to wait a year to apply again. And heaven forbid you missed anything or had any paperwork wrong, your spot in the quita would be gone. So they did a wholesale change to a lottery...

I think the idea is to reassess PGP queues and correct the lottery.

Lotteries sound so random, and quotas so limiting.
But I can't pretend to know what's best. Every country has to set limits according to what's best for their own country.

I do find all the facets of immigration fascinating, the more I become aware of them.
I've started to wonder if there are courses or other training available to become more knowledgeable
in Canadian Immigration rules and procedures.

 

[bfach]

Marwan Tabbara is a good guy... he helped us out...

If he's pitching it, I'll sign

I presented the petition on the parliament website on December 23rd, 2016... I spoke to Marwan over a phone call and requested he be the sponsor. He is a good guy that is for sure. Please tell everyone you can... I want this to be debated ASAP so changes can be made.

We can make a difference, and this is the correct avenue to do it.

 

[scylla]

I'm not up on the issue.
Why can't parental sponsorships just proceed in queue the same way that Spousal Sponsorships do?

They can - but then people have to be happy with 10-12 year processing times. People weren't happy with 10-12 year processing times - so the cap was introduced.

 

[Rob_TO]

I'm not up on the issue.
Why can't parental sponsorships just proceed in queue the same way that Spousal Sponsorships do?

Short answer is there are no quotas on spousal apps, so they will pump out spousal PRs as fast as the apps are received.

There is though a strict quota on PGP apps, meaning each year only X number of parent PRs are allowed to be issued. So when you have more apps coming in yearly than there are PRs allowed to be issued each year, the backlog starts and would continue increasing until ridiculous levels again.