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aresham

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Hello my friends, here is my status. I applied for parents sponsorship when I was single on 2011. I meet LICO2011. I got married and has 2 children since then. Last year CIC asked for the update of the documents and they asked for tax return of 2011, 2012, 2013 and I submnitted them all on time. I have talked to one of CIC call centre agents today and she informed me that I need to satisfy the new LICO rule with 30% top up, which I cannot comply on my own. Can CIC change the LICO requirement like this? I should say that I did not add my wife as a co-signer, but if I need to satisfy new LICO then I need her to be my Co-signer. I would appreciate your comments. Thanks!
 

Rob_TO

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Nov 7, 2012
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Seoul, Korea
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13-07-2012
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18-08-2012
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21-08-2012
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30-10-2012
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aresham said:
Hello my friends, here is my status. I applied for parents sponsorship when I was single on 2011. I meet LICO2011. I got married and has 2 children since then. Last year CIC asked for the update of the documents and they asked for tax return of 2011, 2012, 2013 and I submnitted them all on time. I have talked to one of CIC call centre agents today and she informed me that I need to satisfy the new LICO rule with 30% top up, which I cannot comply on my own. Can CIC change the LICO requirement like this? I should say that I did not add my wife as a co-signer, but if I need to satisfy new LICO then I need her to be my Co-signer. I would appreciate your comments. Thanks!
You should not need to meet the new +30% rule on LICO, since you are locked in based on 2011 rules which didn't have that 30% adder.

However you DO need to meet the LICO amounts for your new family size, based on the tax years your family size increased. For 2011, 2012 and 2013 (and 2014 and 2015 if they ask), those incomes should equal old-rule LICOs based on your family size (including if you had spouse or kids) in each of those years.

I believe you can add your spouse into your app as a co-signer at any time if you need her income to meet LICO based on new family size.
 

aresham

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Oct 21, 2011
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Ankara
Job Offer........
Pre-Assessed..
App. Filed.......
19-05-2011
Passport Req..
24-03-2017
Rob_TO said:
You should not need to meet the new +30% rule on LICO, since you are locked in based on 2011 rules which didn't have that 30% adder.

However you DO need to meet the LICO amounts for your new family size, based on the tax years your family size increased. For 2011, 2012 and 2013 (and 2014 and 2015 if they ask), those incomes should equal old-rule LICOs based on your family size (including if you had spouse or kids) in each of those years.

I believe you can add your spouse into your app as a co-signer at any time if you need her income to meet LICO based on new family size.
Thanks for your response. This is what I thought, but the following text, which was referred by CIC agent on page 49 "Change in circumstances" at IP02 at http://www.cic.gc.ca/english/resources/manuals/ip/ip02-eng.pdf make me worry. Also, the following text on Operation manual 561 where it says"

Authority to request updated evidence of income

Subsection 134(2) of IRPR now provides officers with the authority to request updated evidence of income from all sponsors who submit a sponsorship application for a member of the family class in the following circumstances:

the officer receives information indicating that the sponsor is no longer able to fulfil the obligations of the sponsorship undertaking; or
more than 12 months have elapsed since the receipt of the sponsorship application.

If the sponsor has submitted a sponsorship application for a parent or grandparent, when assessing updated financial information, the income calculation rule in paragraph 134(3)(c) must be applied. The sponsor’s income and the co-signer’s income, if applicable, is calculated on the basis of the income earned as reported in the NOA, or an equivalent document (Option C print out), issued by the CRA in respect of each of the three consecutive taxation years immediately preceding the day on which the officer receives the updated evidence. For example, if an application to sponsor a parent or grandparent was submitted in January 2014 and was being processed in July 2016, an officer may request updated financial information from the sponsor. The income calculation will be based on the NOA or option C for taxation years 2015, 2014 and 2013. As in an initial assessment, the sponsor’s income and the co-signer’s income, if applicable, is the income earned as reported in the NOA or Option C printout, not including:

any provincial allowance received by the sponsor for a program of instruction or training;
any social assistance received by the sponsor from a province;
any financial assistance received by the sponsor from the Government of Canada under a resettlement assistance program;
any amounts paid to the sponsor under the Employment Insurance Act, other than special benefits;
any monthly guaranteed income supplement paid to the sponsor under the Old Age Security Act; and
any Canada child tax benefit paid to the sponsor under the Income Tax Act.
Paragraph 134(1.1)(c) further provides for the income of a co-signer, if applicable, to be included in the calculation of the sponsor’s income, with any modifications that the circumstances require..
 

Rob_TO

VIP Member
Nov 7, 2012
11,426
1,551
Toronto
Category........
FAM
Visa Office......
Seoul, Korea
App. Filed.......
13-07-2012
AOR Received.
18-08-2012
File Transfer...
21-08-2012
Med's Done....
Sent with App
Passport Req..
N/R - Exempt
VISA ISSUED...
30-10-2012
LANDED..........
16-11-2012
aresham said:
Thanks for your response. This is what I thought, but the following text, which was referred by CIC agent on page 49
As i said, you are under the old rules so the +30% doesn't apply to you. However your new family size DOES apply to you and you need to meet higher LICO amounts accordingly.

http://www.cic.gc.ca/english/resources/manuals/bulletins/2013/ob561.asp

All family class applications for parents and grandparents in the Department’s existing inventory, which were received before the pause on the acceptance of new applications was put in place in November 2011, will be processed against the regulatory requirements in force prior to January 1, 2014.

New complete applications received on or after January 2, 2014, must be assessed against the new regulatory requirements which come into force on January 1, 2014.
 

aresham

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Oct 21, 2011
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Category........
Visa Office......
Ankara
Job Offer........
Pre-Assessed..
App. Filed.......
19-05-2011
Passport Req..
24-03-2017
Rob_TO said:
As i said, you are under the old rules so the +30% doesn't apply to you. However your new family size DOES apply to you and you need to meet higher LICO amounts accordingly.

http://www.cic.gc.ca/english/resources/manuals/bulletins/2013/ob561.asp

All family class applications for parents and grandparents in the Department’s existing inventory, which were received before the pause on the acceptance of new applications was put in place in November 2011, will be processed against the regulatory requirements in force prior to January 1, 2014.

New complete applications received on or after January 2, 2014, must be assessed against the new regulatory requirements which come into force on January 1, 2014.


Thanks Rob_TO. It is a great news. I read the same document, but didn't pay attention to that part.
 

abdrasz

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Sep 10, 2016
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aresham said:
Hello my friends, here is my status. I applied for parents sponsorship when I was single on 2011. I meet LICO2011. I got married and has 2 children since then. Last year CIC asked for the update of the documents and they asked for tax return of 2011, 2012, 2013 and I submnitted them all on time. I have talked to one of CIC call centre agents today and she informed me that I need to satisfy the new LICO rule with 30% top up, which I cannot comply on my own. Can CIC change the LICO requirement like this? I should say that I did not add my wife as a co-signer, but if I need to satisfy new LICO then I need her to be my Co-signer. I would appreciate your comments. Thanks!
when did you get sponsorship approval (SA)? in 2011 or 2016?