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Parents and Grandparents Sponsorship 2021

misteyes

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Ankara
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Pre-Assessed..
Nomination.....
july 2011
Med's Request
02-07-2012
Med's Done....
21-07-2012
Passport Req..
08-11-2012
VISA ISSUED...
26-11-2012
LANDED..........
will land April 2013 :)
I don't understand, it does not show my confirmation number in the cic table, does it only show the people who got invited?
 

Naytov

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Jan 11, 2021
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Dont be so disheartened. Stay positive. You will succeed.
Thanks everyone for support

But still, I'm trying to sponsor parents from 2012 and still unfortunate. I can't express my disappointment of this system. And as I see here, not only me in this kind of situation
 
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Canven84

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Oct 17, 2017
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1. My dad's first name on my birth certificate is spelled slightly differently than it is now on my passport - he changed it later e.g. instead of Jupiter, it was earlier Joopetar. What can I do in this case? I don't think he has his old passport with that name.

2. Don't have my parent's marriage certificate, but my dad's name is on my mom's passport under 'Husband's name' - is that acceptable?

I tried finding it online but unfortunately couldn't find it - will be grateful if someone has any answers on these.

Thank you!
@scylla - please if you can guide - as always :)
I have a similar case where my mom shows with some married last name in my birth certificate that she never used anymore (she got divorced shortly after) and she never used it on her official documents so I added that last name in a section where they ask if the applicant has used another name before. Maybe you can do the same.
 

immig_IT_guy

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2172
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App. Filed.......
11-06-2014
Doc's Request.
Sent with Application
Nomination.....
16-10-2014
IELTS Request
Sent with Application
File Transfer...
Not Sure
Med's Request
23-12-2014
Med's Done....
03-01-2015, FBI PCC submitted on 03-04-2015
Passport Req..
07-10-2015
VISA ISSUED...
06-10-2015
LANDED..........
17-12-2015
Do we know how many people were in the lottery?
 

prashantpraut

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Apr 5, 2018
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Some countries allow extraction of marriage registration in the past. That may be one option. Not sure where your parents got married. So not sure if that's possible.
Hi. @canada.msn @YVR123 I did not see the requirement of a marriage certificate of the parents mentioned anywhere in the list of documents. Can you please specify where it is asked for in the form.
 
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Well, from my experience back when lottery system first introduced in 2016 or 2017, they will never read the requirement or they will read it and disregard it anyway. Every time they draw, there will be people not meeting the LICO got the invitation (happen every year on this forum)

My only hope is that they will keep drawing from the current pool without accepting new application into the pool for the next lottery rounds (just similar to this one) until they take all the application left in the pool. Only then they can re-open to accept new application for new lottery rounds. I think that the fairest approach for everyone currently in the pool and waiting for their chance (including me) - This is just my opinion if government intend to keep the lottery system forever (waiting since 2017 for my chance to apply :( )
If a country, a government favored by the people, should have principles for the people, it is necessary to have a reasonable order. The previous methods, albeit flawed, had a somewhat sense of order. We reject this chaotic lottery method. This is a game, our parents are people, not objects to play, hurt our feelings, indefinitely delay or prevent our family reunion! Since the government wants to give some people a chance to play the lottery, why not give other people other options, for those who don't want to play this game? For example, waiting in line, or paying more to reduce the burden on the government, why not?

We refuse to play games, refuse to play with our parents who are older year by year...
Our parents have been in the lottery for 7 years! We really don’t understand why this lousy lottery is playing the destiny of our family! Time after time, loss and emotional hurt, why is it so difficult for our family to reunite? Isn't 7 years enough? This is not fair!

If the government sincerely cares about each of our families, please stop playing games! Please take the future of each family seriously. This is also our country’s reputation! Freedom, fairness and reasonableness, giving us a correct way and more choices, it isn't to force every family to participate in this gambling game and let a stupid game decide our lives! Where are our freedoms, our rights? We refuse to play, this is our life and family....because a country and it's government should be responsible and do what's right for it's people, rather than gamble with family's lives, with lottery games that determine the outcome!

Who of you are in the same boat and feel the same way we do? We need to get together and let the government hear our family voice, if they really care about family!
 

YVR123

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Hi. @canada.msn @YVR123 I did not see the requirement of a marriage certificate of the parents mentioned anywhere in the list of documents. Can you please specify where it is asked for in the form.
https://www.canada.ca/en/immigration-refugees-citizenship/services/application/application-forms-guides/guide-5772-application-sponsor-parents-grandparents.html
Marriage certificates
  • If you have a co-signer and they are your spouse, make sure you include a copy of your valid marriage certificate with your application. The document(s) you submit must show that the marriage was legally registered with the government where it took place.
    • Note: A record of solemnization is not acceptable for marriages that were legally registered in Canada or the United States of America.
  • If you are only sponsoring one parent or grandparent because the other is deceased, you don’t need to include a marriage certificate. You should include a letter explaining the situation, as well as the deceased parent’s death certificate.
  • If your parents don’t have a marriage certificate, include a detailed explanation as to why you can’t provide one.
  • If your parents are divorced, you can include a notarized divorce certificate to prove your parent is not a dependant of your other parent.

Also in document checklist
https://www.canada.ca/content/dam/ircc/migration/ircc/english/pdf/kits/forms/imm5771e.pdf

Supporting Documents - Part A
section 6
Proof of principle applicant's relationship to an accompanying dependent spouse or common-law partner;
- upload the marriage certificate, OR
- Statutory Declaration of Common-law Union (IMM 5409)
To be completed also by the principle applicant and their common-law partner, if applicable.

You read the rest from the document check list.
 
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Szak3213

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Feb 3, 2019
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Guys! move on with your lives. We lost and lost it so bad. Next year it will again be 10K, we couldn't make it out of 40k when there was a good chance.
we all are soooo unlucky, lets admit it and let the winners part here.
GoodBye!!
 
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Naturgrl

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Hi all, I know we all have been trying since long and we all are frustrated because of the system. Could you please pm me your
- email
- for how long you are PR or citizen
- for how many years are you trying ?

Helping Crish Malabar (fb account) for the info, so he can start the legal fight.

Thank you!

Edit** - I’ll be creating an excel sheet for this and will post the link. Please stay tuned!!
Honest question…what is the legal fight? The government could just disband the program tomorrow. It doesn’t need to offer the program. It is not written in federal legislation as a right to bring your parents and grandparents.
 

tam_ngo

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Nov 22, 2012
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If a country, a government favored by the people, should have principles for the people, it is necessary to have a reasonable order. The previous methods, albeit flawed, had a somewhat sense of order. We reject this chaotic lottery method. This is a game, our parents are people, not objects to play, hurt our feelings, indefinitely delay or prevent our family reunion! Since the government wants to give some people a chance to play the lottery, why not give other people other options, for those who don't want to play this game? For example, waiting in line, or paying more to reduce the burden on the government, why not?

We refuse to play games, refuse to play with our parents who are older year by year...
Our parents have been in the lottery for 7 years! We really don’t understand why this lousy lottery is playing the destiny of our family! Time after time, loss and emotional hurt, why is it so difficult for our family to reunite? Isn't 7 years enough? This is not fair!

If the government sincerely cares about each of our families, please stop playing games! Please take the future of each family seriously. This is also our country’s reputation! Freedom, fairness and reasonableness, giving us a correct way and more choices, it isn't to force every family to participate in this gambling game and let a stupid game decide our lives! Where are our freedoms, our rights? We refuse to play, this is our life and family....because a country and it's government should be responsible and do what's right for it's people, rather than gamble with family's lives, with lottery games that determine the outcome!

Who of you are in the same boat and feel the same way we do? We need to get together and let the government hear our family voice, if they really care about family!
Honestly, I dont think they care. I just wrote an email to the immigration minister asked him politely to consider other options. I dont think he's gonna read it either. I just did it to make me feel like a bit of relief. I sent him an email last year too when I was not selected. I hate the feeling being hopeless and not doing anything.

You can write him an email too. It might make you feel a bit better.
 
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scylla

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01-10-2010
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05-10-2010
LANDED..........
05-10-2010
If a country, a government favored by the people, should have principles for the people, it is necessary to have a reasonable order. The previous methods, albeit flawed, had a somewhat sense of order. We reject this chaotic lottery method. This is a game, our parents are people, not objects to play, hurt our feelings, indefinitely delay or prevent our family reunion! Since the government wants to give some people a chance to play the lottery, why not give other people other options, for those who don't want to play this game? For example, waiting in line, or paying more to reduce the burden on the government, why not?

We refuse to play games, refuse to play with our parents who are older year by year...
Our parents have been in the lottery for 7 years! We really don’t understand why this lousy lottery is playing the destiny of our family! Time after time, loss and emotional hurt, why is it so difficult for our family to reunite? Isn't 7 years enough? This is not fair!

If the government sincerely cares about each of our families, please stop playing games! Please take the future of each family seriously. This is also our country’s reputation! Freedom, fairness and reasonableness, giving us a correct way and more choices, it isn't to force every family to participate in this gambling game and let a stupid game decide our lives! Where are our freedoms, our rights? We refuse to play, this is our life and family....because a country and it's government should be responsible and do what's right for it's people, rather than gamble with family's lives, with lottery games that determine the outcome!

Who of you are in the same boat and feel the same way we do? We need to get together and let the government hear our family voice, if they really care about family!
One of the reasons why the government switched to the lottery system from FIFO (first in, first out) was because people were screaming that the FIFO process was so unfair and a complete disaster. In fact, there was a huge petition started by people on this very forum specifically asking to switch to a lottery system and that petition was sent to the government. So technically the government / IRCC did in fact listen to the public when they introduced the lottery. Many people on this forum wanted this and asked for it.

The parent / grandparent sponsorship process that existed previously (where there was no cap on applications and people just waited in queue) had a 10+ year processing time. People thought this was a disaster too. It took far too long to bring parents here. Many parents tragically passed away before their applications were ever processed or developed medical conditions which then made them inadmissible. People created huge petitions to change that too and hence the cap was introduced.

I don't know what the right answer is. Unfortunately parent sponsorship isn't a right. However that doesn't mean you shouldn't lobby your MP for what you think is the best possible solution.
 
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