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Parents and Grandparents Sponsorship 2018

Cocolu

Newbie
Sep 30, 2015
5
1
Hi, I tried looking through the thread but couldn't find a specific answer.

I live with my wife and our son. My daughter lives with her mom but I support her financially, my guess is she's still considered my dependent.

I was selected to sponsor. My intent is to sponsor my father and his common law spouse (they've been together for 20+ years)

Now, I don't remember what exact numbers I entered on my interest to apply form. Is there a way to see or request the information entered? Will the application be affected if the numbers don't match?

I believe I entered 4 family members in the household but with the intention of sponsoring 1 person. (Should I have entered my dad's spouse?)

Any guidance on these items will be greatly appreciated.
 

canuck78

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Jun 18, 2017
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Hi, I tried looking through the thread but couldn't find a specific answer.

I live with my wife and our son. My daughter lives with her mom but I support her financially, my guess is she's still considered my dependent.

I was selected to sponsor. My intent is to sponsor my father and his common law spouse (they've been together for 20+ years)

Now, I don't remember what exact numbers I entered on my interest to apply form. Is there a way to see or request the information entered? Will the application be affected if the numbers don't match?

I believe I entered 4 family members in the household but with the intention of sponsoring 1 person. (Should I have entered my dad's spouse?)

Any guidance on these items will be greatly appreciated.
Think it should be 6 family members. Even though you daughter doesn't live with you she is your dependent. Yes you need to add your father's wife.
 

Cocolu

Newbie
Sep 30, 2015
5
1
Think it should be 6 family members. Even though you daughter doesn't live with you she is your dependent. Yes you need to add your father's wife.
Thanks for the quick reply.

If I didn't enter the correct information initially, do you think the application will be denied for that matter? Or is the actual application the one that counts?
 

Rob_TO

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Nov 7, 2012
11,427
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Toronto
Category........
FAM
Visa Office......
Seoul, Korea
App. Filed.......
13-07-2012
AOR Received.
18-08-2012
File Transfer...
21-08-2012
Med's Done....
Sent with App
Passport Req..
N/R - Exempt
VISA ISSUED...
30-10-2012
LANDED..........
16-11-2012
I was hoping not to have my wife co-sign sponsorship for my mom but I am confused. Any help is much appreciated.

My family size was 3 in 2015 and 2016. My daughter was born in 2017 so now the family size is 4. For current undertaking, while sponsoring my mom the family size grows to 5.

I have the notice of assessment from 2015, 2016 and 2017. For all three years should I have to consider family size to be 5? Or can I consider family size of 4 for 2015 & 2016 while consider 5 for 2017?

The reason I ask is for 2015 I do not meet min. income requirements for 5 people but if I have my wife co-sign the sponsorship I meet the min. income requirements. In the image below, I meet the min. income requirements (shown in yellow highlight)
The only family size you are asked to calculate in the app, is as of the date you submit the application. For you that is 5, so you must meet LICO for family size of 5 in 2015,2016,2017. IRCC is not interested in old family sizes that don't apply to your current situation.

So you better add your wife as co-signer if that's whats needed to meet LICO going back to 2015.
 

Rob_TO

VIP Member
Nov 7, 2012
11,427
1,551
Toronto
Category........
FAM
Visa Office......
Seoul, Korea
App. Filed.......
13-07-2012
AOR Received.
18-08-2012
File Transfer...
21-08-2012
Med's Done....
Sent with App
Passport Req..
N/R - Exempt
VISA ISSUED...
30-10-2012
LANDED..........
16-11-2012
Hi, I tried looking through the thread but couldn't find a specific answer.

I live with my wife and our son. My daughter lives with her mom but I support her financially, my guess is she's still considered my dependent.

I was selected to sponsor. My intent is to sponsor my father and his common law spouse (they've been together for 20+ years)

Now, I don't remember what exact numbers I entered on my interest to apply form. Is there a way to see or request the information entered? Will the application be affected if the numbers don't match?

I believe I entered 4 family members in the household but with the intention of sponsoring 1 person. (Should I have entered my dad's spouse?)

Any guidance on these items will be greatly appreciated.
Your daughter must be included in your family size, as per the guide: https://www.canada.ca/en/immigration-refugees-citizenship/services/application/application-forms-guides/guide-5772-application-sponsor-parents-grandparents.html
How to calculate the family size?
Note: Children who meet the definition of a dependent child must be included in the calculation, even if you as a sponsor do not have custody nor provide child support.

Your father's common-law partner must also be included in the application and your family size. They must both pass the medical exam in order for the app to be approved.

With family size of 6, your income required is:
2017 $76,015
2016 $75,174
2015 $73,733

It doesn't matter what you put in lottery form, as long as your father's name was correct. The family size that's important is the size on date you submit the app, so as long as you meet income for 6, that should be fine.
 
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Cocolu

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Sep 30, 2015
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Your daughter must be included in your family size, as per the guide: https://www.canada.ca/en/immigration-refugees-citizenship/services/application/application-forms-guides/guide-5772-application-sponsor-parents-grandparents.html
How to calculate the family size?

Note: Children who meet the definition of a dependent child must be included in the calculation, even if you as a sponsor do not have custody nor provide child support.

Your father's common-law partner must also be included in the application and your family size. They must both pass the medical exam in order for the app to be approved.

With family size of 6, your income required is:
2017 $76,015
2016 $75,174
2015 $73,733

It doesn't matter what you put in lottery form, as long as your father's name was correct. The family size that's important is the size on date you submit the app, so as long as you meet income for 6, that should be fine.
Thanks a lot for the help, it did clear my doubts.
 

cnonline

Star Member
Jun 28, 2012
196
55
Category........
Visa Office......
CPP-O
NOC Code......
2131
Job Offer........
Pre-Assessed..
App. Filed.......
Sent on May 23, 2013. Received by CIC on May 28, 2013
AOR Received.
CPPO does not send
IELTS Request
NA
File Transfer...
Aug 16, 2013 (@ time of PER)
Med's Request
Nov 13, 2013
Med's Done....
Nov 21, 2013
Interview........
Waived
Passport Req..
Dec 23, 2013. PP sent on Dec 30, 2013, received by CPPO on Jan 6, 2014.
VISA ISSUED...
Dec 23, 2013 --- Valid until Dec 5, 2014.
LANDED..........
Mar 08, 2014
Your family size is calculated when you apply. If you've calculated it properly and it's 5, then you would have to meet minimum requirements for a family of 5 for the previous years as well.
Thanks,
 

cnonline

Star Member
Jun 28, 2012
196
55
Category........
Visa Office......
CPP-O
NOC Code......
2131
Job Offer........
Pre-Assessed..
App. Filed.......
Sent on May 23, 2013. Received by CIC on May 28, 2013
AOR Received.
CPPO does not send
IELTS Request
NA
File Transfer...
Aug 16, 2013 (@ time of PER)
Med's Request
Nov 13, 2013
Med's Done....
Nov 21, 2013
Interview........
Waived
Passport Req..
Dec 23, 2013. PP sent on Dec 30, 2013, received by CPPO on Jan 6, 2014.
VISA ISSUED...
Dec 23, 2013 --- Valid until Dec 5, 2014.
LANDED..........
Mar 08, 2014
You would have to consider the family size as 5.
In this case Your best bet will be to add your wife as a co-signer.
Thanks. Will do. Appreciate your feedback.
 

cnonline

Star Member
Jun 28, 2012
196
55
Category........
Visa Office......
CPP-O
NOC Code......
2131
Job Offer........
Pre-Assessed..
App. Filed.......
Sent on May 23, 2013. Received by CIC on May 28, 2013
AOR Received.
CPPO does not send
IELTS Request
NA
File Transfer...
Aug 16, 2013 (@ time of PER)
Med's Request
Nov 13, 2013
Med's Done....
Nov 21, 2013
Interview........
Waived
Passport Req..
Dec 23, 2013. PP sent on Dec 30, 2013, received by CPPO on Jan 6, 2014.
VISA ISSUED...
Dec 23, 2013 --- Valid until Dec 5, 2014.
LANDED..........
Mar 08, 2014
The only family size you are asked to calculate in the app, is as of the date you submit the application. For you that is 5, so you must meet LICO for family size of 5 in 2015,2016,2017. IRCC is not interested in old family sizes that don't apply to your current situation.

So you better add your wife as co-signer if that's whats needed to meet LICO going back to 2015.
Thanks a lot for your help.
 

canadavisa2018

Star Member
Jan 4, 2018
96
36
How to Arrange Package:
Please correct me if I am wrong
According to when I understood from Guide, put pages according to below order:
1. PDF that received in Email 4 pages English and French.
2. BAR code page from IMM1344 Page-8 of total 8
3. BAR code page from IMM0008 page-4 and page-5 of total 6 (can be more)

4. Check list IMM5771
5. IMM1344 7 pages of total 8, BAR code page in position-2
6. IMM5768 all pages followed by: if applicable : IMM5748
7. if applicable: IMM5409

8. IMM0008 : Generic Application form for Canada, 2 BAR code pages on position-3
9. if applicable: IMM0008DEP
10. IMM5669 : Schedule A - Background Declaration
11. IMM5406 : Additional Family Information
remaining documents in order as stated in Check list
...
...
 
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abhi2884

Star Member
Dec 10, 2015
53
2
Job Offer........
Pre-Assessed..
I am confused about the income, which column I have to see in my T4? or my offer letter salary is my income for the year?
 

canadavisa2018

Star Member
Jan 4, 2018
96
36
I am confused about the income, which column I have to see in my T4? or my offer letter salary is my income for the year?
Look in Notice of assessment. Total income is what you needs to write. Note: Some incomes like general EI do not count as income, where as parental EI counts.

in T4 its fields 14
 

abhi2884

Star Member
Dec 10, 2015
53
2
Job Offer........
Pre-Assessed..
Look in Notice of assessment. Total income is what you needs to write. Note: Some incomes like general EI do not count as income, where as parental EI counts.

in T4 its fields 14
Thank you!! , I recently got my PR earlier I was on work permit so my SIN number got changed, which SIN number I have to mention on Financial Evaluation for Parents and Grandparents Sponsorship [IMM 5768]?
 

rash04

Hero Member
Feb 13, 2014
317
28
Job Offer........
Pre-Assessed..
If I have a co-signer and co-signer never sponsored anyone till this point , what would be the family size in co-signer tab under financial evaluation form?