Parents and Grandparents Sponsorship 2017

[st17]

They'll be eligible for the provincial health care like all other permanent residents after the waiting period is over; the rules are the same for all PR holders. They can not claim welfare, old age benefits etc. for 20 years.

Thank you very much. This made me worried...

 

[spy118]

Hi Guys, seeking some clarifications from the experienced members. Is UCCB counted towards family income for parents sponsorship. I'm marginally short of the threshold income requirements for sponsoring my parents and if UCCB is eligible to be added I will be good. Appreciate your help

Easiest method is to have a look at your tax return and calculate your income based on that. That's what IRCC checks as well.

 

[yalgar]

My sponsorship application status is Decision Made and Permanent residence is In process.. believed it recently changed from Application Received,
No email yet.. Should I also check letters? I believe some of the sponsors got letters of transfer to Ottawa/New Delhi etc

 

[APAK]

Easiest method is to have a look at your tax return and calculate your income based on that. That's what IRCC checks as well.

is it line 150 of the notice of assesment?

 

[pie_vancouver]

So for example if I married my Canadian boyfriend in 2015, he sponsored me to become a PR in 2016, arrived in Canada in 2016, entered the lottery, got chosen, I filed zero income for 2016 coz I did not have income, he met the LICO for 2014-2016, then I can apply to sponsor my parents using his income?

Anyone, yes or no?

 

[Javiya]

Thanks a lot ! yes i was slowly getting to know the process.
so if i understand correctly i need a co-signer only if my income doesn't meet the criteria; if my income is more than the quoted values in the requirement i dont need a co-signer?

are there any other benefits of co-signer apart from to meet the income?

Hi sthuse,

You are correct, you do not need Co-signer if your income is meeting LICO.

I would advice not to use any co-signer. That would reduce the paperwork, any confusion and processing time too.

As such there are no direct benefits of using Co-signer, if you are surly meeting the LICO income. But one point , which i can't be confirmed about is, if you loose your job or doesn't meet the income, your co-signer can help that way. But I am not sure if it's how IRCC will consider it after signing the agreement.

 

[Javiya]

Thank you so much
Javiya,
Do you know I have to fill out for my father and Mother separate? I confused because in the IMM5562 form at the top they said the principal applicant must complete this form. But in the email they said please complete this form for my father and my mother. Also, in that form there is a section for principal and spouse???
Please advise!
Thanks

Hi Mimimo, IMM5562 is supplementary information of travel. I would advice you to fill it for both parents separably. IRCC would like to know each individual's travel history for security reasons. Since they are two individuals, they may have a travel overlap to different places. Or may be just one of your parent travelling to outside country, etc cases. So IRCC have mentioned in e-mail to submit the form for both.

And there is nothing wrong if it's not needed.

 

[Javiya]

If you have no CRA NOA, your income is just taken as $0. So as long as co-signer has proper NOA from Canadian sources for previous 3 years, that will be all a visa officer cares about to meet income requirement.

A PR can step foot in Canada for the very first time, and in that same year sponsor their parents if they win a lottery spot and they have a suitable co-signer.



Someone can only sponsor their own parents as the primary sponsor. This is for liability reasons in case the parents go on welfare during their time as PR. The government can then come after the sponsor and co-signer for repayments. It wouldn't make sense to have a child-in-law as the person sole responsible for PRs that aren't even their actual parents.

Hi Rob_TO,

I stated the reference form IRCC website about needing 3 NOAs. You can check theat line mentioned in blue back ground.
Your point of view is that IRCC office will consider 0$ as income and add Co-signer income in case NOA is not available. Is there an official reference from IRCC guide or website for this or it's what you are hoping IRCC officer will do?

Second point, When I said, why someone can't allow In-law's to be sponsored , I am exactly stating the same point you stated above. What I meant to say , by making that point is, if Sponsor does not have 3 NOA's, this is what exactly is happening in-directly.

 

[Rob_TO]

Hi sthuse,

You are correct, you do not need Co-signer if your income is meeting LICO.

I would advice not to use any co-signer. That would reduce the paperwork, any confusion and processing time too.

As such there are no direct benefits of using Co-signer, if you are surly meeting the LICO income.

Disagree.
What if the primary applicant loses their job in a later year, or for any other reason has reduced income in later years?

 

[Rob_TO]

Hi Rob_TO,

I stated the reference form IRCC website about needing 3 NOAs. You can check theat line mentioned in blue back ground.
Your point of view is that IRCC office will consider 0$ as income and add Co-signer income in case NOA is not available. Is there an official reference from IRCC guide or website for this or it's what you are hoping IRCC officer will do?

Second point, When I said, why someone can't allow In-law's to be sponsored , I am exactly stating the same point you stated above. What I meant to say , by making that point is, if Sponsor does not have 3 NOA's, this is what exactly is happening in-directly.

Going back to 2014 applicants, others have submitted parents apps very soon after becoming PRs so didn't have 3 years NOAs. To date I've never seen a case of an app returned or refused due to this as co-signer was meeting the income requirements.

 

[Javiya]

one quick question, how did the folks who applied managed to get the signature of their parents; send the forms back home and then parents print it out and send it back in courier?
any alternatives, suggestions?

Yes, Exactly that.

 

[Rob_TO]

Anyone, yes or no?

Yes as long as co-signer meets income requirements, you are fine.

 

[Javiya]

Disagree.
What if the primary applicant loses their job in a later year, or for any other reason has reduced income in later years?

Yes, I thought about it and added that as possible benefit.

 

[spy118]

is it line 150 of the notice of assesment?

Yes

 

[Rob_TO]

Yes, I thought about it and added that as possible benefit.

Note that a co-signer can't be added later on on in the process, unless there is a change in family size (i.e. have a new child and need so-signer's income due to increased family size).

If a sponsor simply loses their job and no longer meets LICO in later years, IRCC will not allow a co-signer to be added so app could be rejected at that time. Having a co-signer from the beginning greatly reduces this risk.