Outland Vs Inland?? Experiences/Advice welcomed

[LeelaD]

Hi all, we are about to begin the process of sponsrship and would like to know if anyone has any experience with both processes and the pros and cons of each, I am a U.K citizen with U.K dependant child(3) my partner is Canadian, he will be sponsoring me to live with him here, I checked the times and it is 26months for inland vs 14 months for outland, I have been currently here for 8 months, we applied for an extension to my 6 months allowance two months ago, if we want to sponsor inland we have to do so very soon if not I will have to return to U.K(which I am really not enthused about) and return here(hopefully) to visit while the outbound application is being processed.

Prior to this 8 month stay I had stayed here for almost 6 months before returning to U.K and coming back here again, questions we would like to know are...

If we are denied for any reason in an inbound application can we apply again outbound/inbound, how many times can you apply(I am aware you cannot appeal a decision made on an inbound application)
How long do you estimate it would take to complete an application from start to finish(just collating and sending the application I mean not the actual processing time)?
We have not very many photos of us together as we do not use social media at all really or are people that photograph our moments together, will this matter?
Would it be better to return to the U.K and back here or could I renew my visitor time here by leaving the country for a few weeks, say to Mexico or America and returning?
If an outbound application is made and accepted must i enter Canada from the country I applied from or can I be residing here as a visitor when it is accepted?
When we applied for an extension of my time here it was with the intention of spending summer together before I returned to U.K to start outbound process and we said this in application, after that I became pregnant but have since miscarried, we would prefer to remain together now during the process if possible but will it be looked on unfavourably that we asked for an extension to spend time together before applying outbound and then change to applying inbound?

Many thanks.

 

[Alurra71]

OUTLAND ....

OUTLAND .....

Do an outland application. You can remain in Canada by getting another extension to your visitor status even after filing an OUTLAND application. Don't be confused by the titles that CIC gives these things.

Did I mention don't file an INLAND applicaiton? It is NOT worth the hassle and the wait for someone from the UK. File OUTLAND.

 

[scylla]

Outland

 

[LeelaD]

Thanks...I thought outland was the best too, my partner wants to be 1000% informed and certain before he decides...so we could apply for another extension if we aply outland while I am still here but if that extension is denied then I will have to leave for the duration of the process or could we just reappeal...also do I need to enter the country from the country I applied from when I am accepted?

He would also like to know if there are limits on the processes..for instance they say it's 62,000 spousal sponsorship applicants they will accept per year..is this equal across both applications or would it be that they accept a certain percentage of inland and a certain percentage of outland...

 

[LeelaD]

In terms of the extensions a few people put us off by reminding us that if our extensions were denied I would have to immediately leave the country within 30 days...

 

[Alurra71]

In terms of the extensions a few people put us off by reminding us that if our extensions were denied I would have to immediately leave the country within 30 days...

The odds of your extension being denied are likely slim to none. They are correct in that you would need to leave, however, as stated, with an application in process and the funds available to cover your stay, it should NOT be an issue.

To answer your previous question, no you do NOT need to enter from the country you applied from, e.g. UK. You would be issues a COPR via mail, to whatever address you provide to CIC and you would then need to flagpole or get an appointment with an inland CIC office to land. I would suggest flagpoling which mean leaving the country and renetering.

 

[LeelaD]

Wow, thankyou so much for taking the time to answer so quickly, you guys have cleared up a lot of questions I've been trawling the internet trying to figure out..

 

[ScottishPolish]

Wow, thankyou so much for taking the time to answer so quickly, you guys have cleared up a lot of questions I've been trawling the internet trying to figure out..

Outland for sure...there are so many more benefits to it...here's an article that might help as well - has good information as well as updated processing times by country. And discusses outland vs inland. But please remember if you apply inland and don't get accepted - you cannot appeal, which is a huge downside. And you'd have to leave the country and start the whole process all over again.

http://www.cicnews.com/2016/05/ircc-update-spousalcommonlaw-sponsorship-processing-times-12-months-applicants-057930.html

 

[canuck_in_uk]

In terms of the extensions a few people put us off by reminding us that if our extensions were denied I would have to immediately leave the country within 30 days...

If refused, you would be able to apply for Restoration of Status. If Restoration is refused, then you would have to leave.

Prior to this 8 month stay I had stayed here for almost 6 months before returning to U.K and coming back here again, questions we would like to know are...

You haven't said if you are getting married or applying as common-law. If it's the latter, how long was that separation when you returned to the UK? If it was around 2 weeks or less, there should be no issue. If it was 3 weeks or more, then it might be seen by the VO as a break in common-law; you would be safer waiting until you have one year of continuous cohabitation since that point.

 

[LeelaD]

....ok...so we are still waiting for the return of the extension request, my return to the U.K was for a month so I note what you've said about that, we would like to get married and have planned to but we are together here with no family and my little son to care for so it's not our biggest priority to find the money and time for a marriage ceremony...if/when we do it it will be simple and not fussy.

I have a few questions if anyone could help I would be so grateful...just to clarify our options...if the extension is denied we can apply for a restoration but could we apply now for another extension while we are waiting for the permission for the first extension? If we apply for another extension while that extension is pending will that give me implied status for the time it takes to process the second request or will I still have to apply for a restoration if the first is denied?

Thanks so much for any responses, at the moment it all feels a bit haphazard about what to do next as best course of action

 

[Ponga]

But what about the answer to canuck_in_uk's question:
How long were you away from your partner, before you returned to Canada? Was it more than a couple of weeks?!

 

[LeelaD]

I just wrote in that last post my return ot the U.K was for a month...

 

[Ponga]

You should probably wait another 4 months before submitting your application. That one month break could certainly be seen as a breech of the cohabiting requirement...and it's better to be safe than sorry when it comes to CIC.

 

[LeelaD]

Ok so we already applied for the extension citing oursleves as common law with proof that we've had a joint lease here together since shortly after I arrived, I returned to the U.K to visit family and to keep in line with the visitor visa limits, the only way we can wait another four months before we apply is if we apply for another extension but we already have an extension application in process...can we apply for another extension with the current one pending, and if we have applied for the first extension declaring ourselves as common law so would you say they are likely to deny our request based on my return to U.K for a month? Also I saw in the outland application there is an option to apply as not common law but another option for people who have been unable to fulfill a full year of cohabiting without a break because of visa limitatiosn so why would we not do that if common law will not be accepted?

 

[LeelaD]

We have friends here who applied under spousal sponsorhip, he Canadien, her French, she returned to France for two and a half months after five months here then returned and they applied as common law and were accepted as they also had copy of a joint lease together..