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Help22

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Yeah it's risky ponga I can certainly see that but inland have changed the wording so I am not so sure I am safe either way
 

Ponga

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Agreed!

One bold option, would be to call CBSA (from a public phone) and just ask them if either application would work for you, while you remain in Canada during the process. We all know that calling the CIC Call Centre is not going to be much help, since you end up playing the `Wheel of Knowledge' when the person answers your call. LOL!
 

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Ponga said:
Agreed!

One bold option, would be to call CBSA (from a public phone) and just ask them if either application would work for you, while you remain in Canada during the process. We all know that calling the CIC Call Centre is not going to be much help, since you end up playing the `Wheel of Knowledge' when the person answers your call. LOL!
Haha good one "Wheel of Knowledge" :)


You should definitely call and confirm and if you can get in touch with a immigration lawyer/consultant; most offer free consultation.
 

Help22

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Oh gosh I don't know if I have the guts to call them they scare me. Hahahaha i will contact the lawyer you suggested ponga first
 

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Ponga said:
With all due respect (truly) I disagree. CBSA will know that the OP overstayed by 3 years and may very well have a problem with that upon re-entry...even with Outland PR, baby and husband.
CBSA is not in the habit of splitting up families. Standing in front of an officer holding a Canadian baby, with a Canadian partner beside them and proof of a PR app submitted (which the officer will know has pretty much no chance of being refused), there is very little chance of being refused entry.

If OP still isn't comfortable with that very minor risk, then they can simply submit the outland application from here and remain here until it's processed.
 

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canuck_in_uk said:
CBSA is not in the habit of splitting up families. Standing in front of an officer holding a Canadian baby, with a Canadian partner beside them and proof of a PR app submitted (which the officer will know has pretty much no chance of being refused), there is very little chance of being refused entry.

If OP still isn't comfortable with that very minor risk, then they can simply submit the outland application from here and remain here until it's processed.
Even though that person may no longer have ANY ties to their home country?

And, how would the officer know that there's pretty much no chance of the PR being refused? Does the child automatically cement the relationship and/or PR of the parent?

It seems as though the common child is the `ticket' here, so a person that either doesn't have a child with his/her sponsor, or is only a Common-Law couple, would likely be denied re-entry due to an overstay?

Seems a bit unfair, but...I can see your logic.
 

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Ponga said:
Even though that person may no longer have ANY ties to their home country?

And, how would the officer know that there's pretty much no chance of the PR being refused? Does the child automatically cement the relationship and/or PR of the parent?

It seems as though the common child is the `ticket' here, so a person that either doesn't have a child with his/her sponsor, or is only a Common-Law couple, would likely be denied re-entry due to an overstay?
Yes, even if they have no ties. CBSA isn't stupid; they know that most sponsored partners entering Canada as visitors don't actually intend to leave, regardless of what proof of home country ties they show.

In terms of knowing the PR app will be approved, it's simply because OP is British; the refusal rate for Brits (like the refusal rate for those citizens from other countries as equally developed as Canada) is nearly zero. The same can be said of your app Ponga. You are American and have no criminal record (at least not that I've seen you mention ;)); it is not a matter of IF but WHEN your app will be approved.

The submitted PR app is really the "ticket", though the Canadian child helps as well.
 

Zakmalik

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Can I ask if you ended up applying Outland? My husband is in a similar situation as you and we are still debating
 

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Zakmalik said:
Can I ask if you ended up applying Outland? My husband is in a similar situation as you and we are still debating
The person that created this thread hasn't been online here in nearly 3 months, so...? ? ?
 

Zakmalik

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I am not too familiar with this site and have only used it a few times, there's no need to be sarcastic if I wasn't supposed to reply to an old thread my apologies !
 

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Zakmalik said:
I am not too familiar with this site and have only used it a few times, there's no need to be sarcastic if I wasn't supposed to reply to an old thread my apologies !
I don't think Ponga was trying to be sarcastic - more just letting you know that you probably won't get an answer from the original poster since they haven't been back since. This is still a relatively recent thread, so totally fine to reply to it.
 

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I am not too familiar with this site and have only used it a few times, there's no need to be sarcastic if I wasn't supposed to reply to an old thread my apologies !
I was in no way being sarcastic, so I think you need to re-read what I said.

Oh...and thanks a lot for the -1 rating.
 

Zakmalik

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Ponga said:
I was in no way being sarcastic, so I think you need to re-read what I said.

Oh...and thanks a lot for the -1 rating.




sorry I thought you were saying it in a rude way , my appologies , I didn't give you a -1 rating I am not sure how to rate someone unless I clicked something accidentally it was not intended to give you a low rating