You have the option to withdraw your brother. 32k is not tuition it also includes living expenses. He could switch to private education and the costs will likely be 50-60k+ for living and boarding. Private education has access to more funds to hire more teachers, already have smaller class sizes and likely have access to more spaces to accomodate social didtancing although I am sure they have made huge adjustmants and some students may be studying online. There are still areas in Ontario where gyms and indoor dining are still closed. Other areas where things have just opened with very strict limitations. Believe some gyms and restaurants are only allowed 10 people. Very hard to compare each province. Quebec has had more people die, more closures, etc. than Ontario. Ontaario has been slower to react and was likely trying to delay the influx of more people into the province while hoping the lockdowns would be effective in lowering the amount of infections. All the provinces know that allowing international students and more extended family to enter Canada will increase the amount of covid entering Canada. Given that we are already having problems controling covid, provinces aren't anxious to increase the amount of people entering Canada at the same time. In my opinion Ontario seems to have delayed their filing as a way to delay having students enter. For the majority of international students, who are studying at the post-secondary level, the delay will likely push them to come for the winter semester and not right away. There is no easy solution. For public health reasons and due to the limitted healthcare resources it doesn't make sense to let more people enter Canada but for economic reasons in many cases it does.
Opening Primary and Secondary Schools for International Students!
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Nobody shuld be travelling at all unless it is for essential reasons and the government has stressed this. Canadian citizens and PRs have the right to enter Canada. Without changing major laws and rights it is unfortunately impossible to refuse entry to people who are travelling for non-essential reasons. International students are foreign nationals and don't have the same rights to enter Canada, don't have access to the same social supports and they may not have access to healthcare when they first aarrive. There are not a large volume of US students studying in Canada and as our #1 trading partner there are special negotiations just with the US. There are many situations pre and post covid where US citizens have different rules. This is not unlike other close trading partners like for example EU countries.
When it gets to this point, I think they will retire the list since it will no longer be needed. I think the list will only exist as long as not all schools are on it. That's my thinking.
Good luck with your situation.
I think people have to realize that currently in the homes of families with children under 18, it is the parents that are assuming a de facto teaching role as the K-12 system in Ontario has really gone into the drain with online teaching. Furthermore it’s my understanding that ESL teaching has basically grinded to a halt.
Without a parent here, an international student is relying on the support of a homestay parent. That really doesn’t work now does it?
Why boarding schools are not on the list at present makes no sense at all as they are better equipped than universities and colleges at supporting international students.
Without a parent here, an international student is relying on the support of a homestay parent. That really doesn’t work now does it?
Why boarding schools are not on the list at present makes no sense at all as they are better equipped than universities and colleges at supporting international students.
Yeah it makes sense, but don’t they stop giving AIP to the student of next semester? Doesn’t it mean should all dli schools be on the list before the next semester comes? (otherwise they lose a great amount of students)
It all depends where things stand with the pandemic both in Canada and globally. They may extend all of that. Right now we are heading in the wrong direction with COVID-19 which isn't encouraging.
Hard to predict what will happen.
I know its crazy! but trust me we spoke to the embassy but they still said once the DLI is out my brother will get his permit. I actually recevied my permit on the 23rd of October because it was already in the final stages and they also had told me that right after the list is out and I am exempt (I go to York too) they'd process. Have gotten your permit yet?
$32k is purely tuition my brother goes to a private high school, living expenses excluded. We have our own house to quarantine in as well as our cars. So the $32k is pure tuition. It all comes down to the economy, Canada especially Fords party care about the economy it is the school boards that are being difficult.
Wow sorry to hear that! No my permit still hasn't gotten to Stage 2, I applied for the new one in April.
An uninformed visa consultant told me that I could simply fly back anytime I wanted to, so flew back to Amsterdam. And now been stuck for 7 months!
Did you apply for an extension of your old study permit or did you also have to apply for a new one?
Don't really like how they are treating existing students exactly the same as new ones, both in processing and travel rules.
I'm so sorry you were mis-informed that was a serious matter the visa consultant should have been more informed. My family and I didn't know that even if your visa is expired (due to COVID) you were allowed to stay in Canada until December 2020, we were also uninformed but unlike Europe and other countries, we didn't think Canada would be so rigid about the travel ban.
So we actually studied in Canada for 7 years under our fathers diplomatic status, because of his status we could stay in Canada but in July when he moved back for work his status in Canada ended so did ours so we thought we should leave Canada and apply for visa's and come back, but once we left that was it the doors were closed.
Congrats because York is on the DLI list! so you're exempt and can fly back are you just waiting for your visa? also which program at York University are you in? (I am also a York student)
Wow sorry to hear that, especially with former diplomatic status you would think they could do something..
Yeah I'm doing Anthropology, you? And yeah still waiting, sadly also super expensive to live alone in Amsterdam, Canada is cheaper lol. Pretty much the day I get that document i'm flying back
read this: https://www.guelphtoday.com/local-news/ugdsb-preparing-to-allow-international-students-back-into-schools-2829057Ontario new cases just broke its record again...Not really sure if they will keep opening-up now. Well, does the provincial government decide the list or it is IRCC? In this current situation, it's really hard to have a optimistic mind
honestly don't worry Ontario will be added, I've spoken with school associations in Ontario that advocate for the adding on the list and they assured me that if its not added by the 17th then it will be added by the 1st of December. Ontario was late in submitting their plans. I have also researched as many school boards (there are 72 in Ontario) as I could last night and majority of them have updated their website to include "welcoming international students during COVID-19" plan.
Also the Catholic school board (which has 151 schools in Ontario) have announced last week that each school is going to welcome international students and they have plans laid out. So keep positive because Ontario will be added soon
For example check this, Peel District School Board updated their site to include international student arrival guide on November 3rd:
https://www.peelschools.org/international/aboutus/importantnews/Documents/PDSB_travelguide_newstudent_nov3.pdf
Thanks for your information. So what you saying is that the schools in Ontario haven't summited their plan fully before, that's why they didn't make the list; now they have the complete plan, therefore they will be on the list soon?read this: https://www.guelphtoday.com/local-news/ugdsb-preparing-to-allow-international-students-back-into-schools-2829057
honestly don't worry Ontario will be added, I've spoken with school associations in Ontario that advocate for the adding on the list and they assured me that if its not added by the 17th then it will be added by the 1st of December. Ontario was late in submitting their plans. I have also researched as many school boards (there are 72 in Ontario) as I could last night and majority of them have updated their website to include "welcoming international students during COVID-19" plan.
Also the Catholic school board (which has 151 schools in Ontario) have announced last week that each school is going to welcome international students and they have plans laid out. So keep positive because Ontario will be added soon
For example check this, Peel District School Board updated their site to include international student arrival guide on November 3rd:
https://www.peelschools.org/international/aboutus/importantnews/Documents/PDSB_travelguide_newstudent_nov3.pdf