One issue during citizenship interview

[janoo]

Your final exit paper take to official translator in toronto translation office

and translate the passport page of final exit and as well the exit letter

from jawazzat..

 

[blueshirt]

Has the citizenship process changed its looks so complicated now. do everyone has to go through this and submit extry exit report from all ports and get attested. It will cost lot of money and for some need a visa to go to that foreign land and get foreign affairs stamp. I feel so low and tired. Best is Do not do any travel for 4 years and apply in one shot and keep the residency calculator blank

 

[ZZW]

Just a little query...on issuance of immigration visa to principal applicant ADVO asked for sponsors final exit...in Saudi final exit can be cancelled for the family/dependants..we plan to go and land before our deadline date but plan to return to wrap up things approx for 10 months period..eventually we do plan to move to canada for good..if during the issuance of visa AdVO was submitted with final exit..if later its cancelled and my sponsor travels on exit/reentry status. .and returns to saudi on resident status which will be cancelled after those 1pmonth period time. ..will later on when applying for citizenship like 5 years down the line this will cause any problems of we will be requested with RQ?or this period can be justified somehow?
Any say on that

 

[SinghLovCan]

Just a little query...on issuance of immigration visa to principal applicant ADVO asked for sponsors final exit...in Saudi final exit can be cancelled for the family/dependants..we plan to go and land before our deadline date but plan to return to wrap up things approx for 10 months period..eventually we do plan to move to canada for good..if during the issuance of visa AdVO was submitted with final exit..if later its cancelled and my sponsor travels on exit/reentry status. .and returns to saudi on resident status which will be cancelled after those 1pmonth period time. ..will later on when applying for citizenship like 5 years down the line this will cause any problems of we will be requested with RQ?or this period can be justified somehow?
Any say on that

What problem? no problem as long as you fill the citizenship requirement.

 

[SinghLovCan]

Has the citizenship process changed its looks so complicated now. do everyone has to go through this and submit extry exit report from all ports and get attested. It will cost lot of money and for some need a visa to go to that foreign land and get foreign affairs stamp. I feel so low and tired. Best is Do not do any travel for 4 years and apply in one shot and keep the residency calculator blank

The other common thing that is causing all these changes, is bcoz many many applicants don't travel for 3 or 4 years, the moment they complete the qualifying time period of 1095 days they travel out of the country and return only for the oath. This is also one of the reasons for entry/exit reports, RQs etc. Unless you have been living in Canada for 10 years.. and then it is evident on its own that this is where your life is... the citizenship process is complicated.

 

[Donvalley]

....if during the issuance of visa AdVO was submitted with final exit..if later its cancelled and my sponsor travels on exit/reentry status. ..

well, I don't think anyone in this forum could exactly foretell what the citizenship process will evolve down the line five years.

I am not an expert but I believe you may face hard situations explaining this to CO or a very prolongated process due to this step. Anything abnormal is taken as non-routine for citizenship.
Also not sure if this applies to you, but any change in condition prior to landing must be informed to CIC, even after visa is issued. Any omission or misrepresentation may trouble you later in the process. Cancelling a Final Exit and travelling back on same visa may raise suspicions about your where about at the time of citizenship as you will have to include this "relevant period" in history. If went un-noticed, you will sneak through without any issues otherwise will have varying consequences depending up on the interpretation CIC makes.

If VOs started demanding final exit specifically as requirement for PR visa stamping, that is a new development too (at least I am not aware of this until now).. It seems like a more practical approach taken to moor the ship in canadian soil than the theoritical "intend to stay" clause in new Citizenship act.

And a final note to say; if you met the citizenship requirements at the time of application, no matter what RQd or not, will finally be given citizenship.

 

[ZZW]

well, I don't think anyone in this forum could exactly foretell what the citizenship process will evolve down the line five years.

I am not an expert but I believe you may face hard situations explaining this to CO or a very prolongated process due to this step. Anything abnormal is taken as non-routine for citizenship.
Also not sure if this applies to you, but any change in condition prior to landing must be informed to CIC, even after visa is issued. Any omission or misrepresentation may trouble you later in the process. Cancelling a Final Exit and travelling back on same visa may raise suspicions about your where about at the time of citizenship as you will have to include this "relevant period" in history. If went un-noticed, you will sneak through without any issues otherwise will have varying consequences depending up on the interpretation CIC makes.

If VOs started demanding final exit specifically as requirement for PR visa stamping, that is a new development too (at least I am not aware of this until now).. It seems like a more practical approach taken to moor the ship in canadian soil than the theoritical "intend to stay" clause in new Citizenship act.

And a final note to say; if you met the citizenship requirements at the time of application, no matter what RQd or not, will finally be given citizenship.

But they didnt ask final exit of the principal applicant. they only asked for the sponsor. and whenever the principal applicant will goto Canada, he will always be with the sponsor.

What i wanna know is that What does final exit of the sponsor has to do with the citizenship of the prinicpal applicant. even though he did the 1095 days?

 

[SinghLovCan]

Cancelling a Final Exit and travelling back on same visa may raise suspicions about your where about at the time of citizenship as you will have to include this "relevant period" in history.

How can you travel back once your Mideast visa is cancelled? and what is ADVO?

If VOs started demanding final exit specifically as requirement for PR visa stamping, that is a new development too (at least I am not aware of this until now).. It seems like a more practical approach taken to moor the ship in canadian soil than the theoritical "intend to stay" clause in new Citizenship act.

Has this been in the media or news or is this just your mind speculating? There would be several people who did not cancel their visas, bcoz they have parents living or other extended family members, plus the visa does get expired eventually and cancelled. Its not something that is valid for forever. I am not sure whats the big deal on this, my friend got his PR and he is planning to come and live here..but he doesn't plan to cancel his visa, because his parents live back, eventually the visa runs out on its own and then he will just have to apply for a visitor visa to see his parents.

 

[SinghLovCan]

But they didnt ask final exit of the principal applicant. they only asked for the sponsor. and whenever the principal applicant will goto Canada, he will always be with the sponsor.

What i wanna know is that What does final exit of the sponsor has to do with the citizenship of the prinicpal applicant. even though he did the 1095 days?

They asked for final exit for the sponsor, it is a proof that the sponsor is living in Canada. They need that. This has nothing to do with citizenship application. Its two different things. When my bro sponsored my parents, they asked for proof of his stay in Canada. They just need to know that the sponsor is living in Canada.

 

[Donvalley]

How can you travel back once your Mideast visa is cancelled? and what is ADVO?

Has this been in the media or news or is this just your mind speculating? There would be several people who did not cancel their visas, bcoz they have parents living or other extended family members, plus the visa does get expired eventually and cancelled. Its not something that is valid for forever. I am not sure whats the big deal on this, my friend got his PR and he is planning to come and live here..but he doesn't plan to cancel his visa, because his parents live back, eventually the visa runs out on its own and then he will just have to apply for a visitor visa to see his parents.

1. Re-read the OP and understand what he/she is asking ...

2. Refer to OP again, its there; not in media or news.

 

[SinghLovCan]

1. Re-read the OP and understand what he/she is asking ...

2. Refer to OP again, its there; not in media or news.

Donvalley,
I know what he/she is talking about. My brother sponsored my parents, that requirement of sponsor having visa cancelled was there in the letter that ADVO sent to my parents. But my brother had been living in Canada for more than 10 years, so he did not produce any visa cancellation document. The primary purpose is to establish that the sponsor is still living in Canada, for that my brother provided the required evidence.

 

[SinghLovCan]

If VOs started demanding final exit specifically as requirement for PR visa stamping

He is asking for sponsor's visa cancellation and not for PR applicants visa cancellation.

 

[SinghLovCan]

But they didnt ask final exit of the principal applicant. they only asked for the sponsor. and whenever the principal applicant will goto Canada, he will always be with the sponsor.

What i wanna know is that What does final exit of the sponsor has to do with the citizenship of the prinicpal applicant. even though he did the 1095 days?

Absolutely nothing to do with the citizenship application. The same letter of final exit was sent to my brother also, but he being the sponsor has been living in Canada for more than 10 years, so he did not submit any final exit. This is just a "general" requirement, not something you have to show mandatorily. .. as long as you can prove that the sponsor has his/her life in Canada.

ZZW, is this what you got ? :

""Evidence of your sponsor's intent to resume residence to Canada:
Subsection 130(2) of the Immigration and Refugee Protection Regulations states that: “A sponsor who is a
Canadian citizen and does not reside in Canada may sponsor a foreign national who makes an application
referred to in subsection (1) and is the sponsor’s spouse, common-law partner, conjugal partner or dependent
child who has no dependent children, if the sponsor will reside in Canada when the foreign national becomes a
permanent resident.”
Therefore, your sponsor must provide evidence that he/she will permanently reside in Canada once your
application for permanent residence is approved. Such evidence may include:
- a copy of your sponsor's passport with his/her cancelled Gulf residence visa;
- if your sponsor is residing in Saudi Arabia, a copy of his/her Saudi “final exit” visa;
- a copy of your sponsor's resignation letter and proof that the resignation was accepted by his/her employer;
- proof of payment of your sponsor's end of service employment benefits;
- any other documentary evidence you wish to submit.""

 

[Donvalley]

But they didnt ask final exit of the principal applicant. they only asked for the sponsor. and whenever the principal applicant will goto Canada, he will always be with the sponsor.

What i wanna know is that What does final exit of the sponsor has to do with the citizenship of the prinicpal applicant. even though he did the 1095 days?

Based on my understanding your question; i.e. your sponsor is a PR (or will be PR) NOT a citizen. If a citizen, nothing applies at all.

It has nothing to do with who is principal applicant or sponsor, when it comes to Citizenship. It is case by case. My point was that sponsor may have to explain about how a visa canceled earlier (especially at the time of PR visa stamping) was used to travel back and stay for few months.
There will be information about the visa cancellation on system, and will raise flags when CIC verify back records for citizenship process.

 

[SinghLovCan]

My point was that sponsor may have to explain about how a visa canceled earlier (especially at the time of PR visa stamping) was used to travel back and stay for few months.

This is exactly what I was wondering, how can one travel if the visa is canceled, maybe on a visitor visa?