# of Ontario OOPNP letter of interest

[rigel]

We know that people have been receiving "PT letter of interest". What I want to know is just how many have been issued?

Is it vastly/slightly more than 2700?

Less than that?

Or exactly 2700?



Also, since the 45 day deadline for the first person to receive such a letter, has not yet expired, along with the fact that some 400+ CRS EE applicants are not getting this letter as of today; I theorize that the distribution of PT letter of interest (what ever may be their number) is temporarily stopped/capped.

I have been hearing contradictory reports on this, so would be glad to have some reliable information on this.

 

[rigel]

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I am also curious about how this matter would influence the probability of 1500 CAD going to waste? :'(

 

[Asivad Anac]

2700 is the number of nominations for the year via EE and not the number of PTs. PTs can, and should, be more than this number to factor in the rejections and withdrawals when (and after) those PTs are being processed into nominations.

 

[Russian]

2700 is the number of nominations for the year via EE and not the number of PTs. PTs can, and should, be more than this number to factor in the rejections and withdrawals when (and after) those PTs are being processed into nominations.

Number of PTs must depend on the number of applications. Or do you think that one can be fully eligible but rejected because the cap was reached? It would be very unjust.

 

[rigel]

2700 is the number of nominations for the year via EE and not the number of PTs. PTs can, and should, be more than this number to factor in the rejections and withdrawals when (and after) those PTs are being processed into nominations.

So the number is 2700 + some variable?


Does this mean that a certain number of OOPNP application will fail to materialize into a nomination, due to CIC compensating for some margin of error? :-X

 

[rigel]

Number of PTs must depend on the number of applications. Or do you think that one can be fully eligible but rejected because the cap was reached? It would be very unjust.

exactly!!

 

[Asivad Anac]

Number of PTs must depend on the number of applications. Or do you think that one can be fully eligible but rejected because the cap was reached? It would be very unjust.

That won't be surprising at all given that is how CIC dealt with applicants as late as end 2014 before switching over to EE. Look at it from Ontario's perspective. They have a fixed quota (2700) of people who they can bestow with 600 points and it is clearly an FCFS system very much like the old CIC way of doing things.

Also, receiving a PT does not guarantee a nomination in much the same way that receiving an ITA does not guarantee a PR. People might be found invalid and be rejected for a variety of reasons, applications might be returned for being incomplete, applicants might choose not to accept the nomination or might have got a regular ITA or some other provincial nomination before Ontario PN comes along. All of these collectively will ensure that the number of PTs issued will definitely be more than 2700. Now, the question of how these PTs are staggered over time is something only OOPNP (or MCIIT to be exact) would know.

 

[Russian]

That won't be surprising at all given that is how CIC dealt with applicants as late as end 2014 before switching over to EE. Look at it from Ontario's perspective. They have a fixed quota (2700) of people who they can bestow with 600 points and it is clearly an FCFS system very much like the old CIC way of doing things.

The candidates who hit the cap and got rejected in 2014 knew that some quota existed and were aware of possibility of applying to late and get declined. Ontario says nothing about it. As far as I understand the application can be declined if some fraud or misrepresentation took place. If you prove your elegibility by supporting all required documents - you'll definitely get a nomination.

 

[Asivad Anac]

The candidates who hit the cap and got rejected in 2014 knew that some quota existed and were aware of possibility of applying to late and get declined. Ontario says nothing about it. As far as I understand the application can be declined if some fraud or misrepresentation took place. If you prove your elegibility by supporting all required documents - you'll definitely get a nomination.

I understand your point and believe that the early applicants will get their nominations provided they submit a complete application which is acceptable by OOPNP standards.

All I'm trying to say is that OOPNP might not be cautious and dole out just enough number of PTs hoping that every single one of them translates into a nomination. They will certainly issue more than 2700 PTs. And probably stop issuing them closer to the time when they internally decide that they will reach their quota of 2700 nominations without having to issue any more PTs. In that case, the later applicants might get rejected because the quota filled up (and those applicants were completely aware of OOPNP's fixed quota of 2700 and FCFS way of doing things so they have themselves or circumstances to blame for having applied late) or OOPNP might decide to keep them on a waiting list of sorts for next year.

Hope that clarifies.

 

[bellaluna]

Is the 2700 for OOPNP for Express Entry also shared with the French-Speaking Skilled Workers Stream? Qualifications are CLB 7 for French and CLB 6 for English and the rest are similar to HCP.

If so, no idea if the provincial interest invitations are evenly distributed for Human Capital Priorities and French Speaking.

 

[AndreasChen]

In April, there were only 22,000 candidates in the pool.
With new candidates being balanced by the invited, I cannot imagine more than 27,000 candidates now.
For candidates with CRS between 400 and 480, I wouldn't imagine them counting more than 15% percent of the pool.
Also taking into account the sizable application fee, I speculate (with some reasoning) 2,700 OOPNP would be a very descent coverage to the 400~480 group.
Well done Ontario in terms of mugging other provinces for the top immigrant candidates.

 

[rigel]

So the question is, How late, is too late?

 

[T365]

Urgent question to those that got a PT already:

When you recreated your profile, did you use your original GCkey or created a new one?

Please reply as I think I see a trend where those who got a PT used their original GCkey to create a new EE profile.
What I did is to create a fresh GCkey and everything and I haven't got a PT yet. Maybe this is the reason? O_O

This is slightly out of desperation, but maybe there's a connection so please share your feedback.

Thank you very much!

 

[rigel]

Urgent question to those that got a PT already:

When you recreated your profile, did you use your original GCkey or created a new one?

Please reply as I think I see a trend where those who got a PT used their original GCkey to create a new EE profile.
What I did is to create a fresh GCkey and everything and I haven't got a PT yet. Maybe this is the reason? O_O

This is slightly out of desperation, but maybe there's a connection so please share your feedback.

Thank you very much!

Dude, calm down!

There's some good news and some bad.

I can confirm to you that creating a new GC key or keeping the previous one has absolutely no impact on you getting a PT.

It seems that the distribution of PT has been temporarily stopped/capped. (I think they have already issued 2700 PT). So unless the 45 day deadline of the ones who already got their PT expires, I don't think any new ones will be issued. But this is just my hypothesis!

 

[Russian]

Guys does Ontario still issue PTs? One om my NOCs is wrong and I feel like resubmitting my EE profile.

Do i have a chance to receive a PT a second time?