October 2024 - Citizenship Applications

[usmm]

i called on monday and got a really rude agent so i'm gonna wait till end of feb! hopefully there should be an update by then

ok good next month lots of oct applicant get oath cermoney i have strong feelings

 

[Kieliekrankie]

Sorry if this is a stupid question, but if my LPP have all 3 been marked as "Completed" on the same day in my tracker, does that mean I can use that date as the "Decision Made" date, or do I need to wait for something else before I'm at the Decision Made stage?

 

[usmm]

Sorry if this is a stupid question, but if my LPP have all 3 been marked as "Completed" on the same day in my tracker, does that mean I can use that date as the "Decision Made" date, or do I need to wait for something else before I'm at the Decision Made stage?

you just need to w8 for oath cermoney if rest all part of application is complete

 

[Jay.a882]

ok good what i think in interview they will ask your about routine question

It’s strange because the email I just received stated that interview will be about to determine your eligibility regarding your physical presence. It requested to upload all passport pages in colour( current and expired) during the 5 years eligibility. I have already provided my current passport copies when I submitted the application but didn’t include the expired passport

 

[usmm]

It’s strange because the email I just received stated that interview will be about to determine your eligibility regarding your physical presence. It requested to upload all passport pages in colour( current and expired) during the 5 years eligibility. I have already provided my current passport copies when I submitted the application but didn’t include the expired passport

oh i see they just want to verify physical pressence they want to check expire passport to check if you travel or not

 

[forw.jane]

Physical presence days: 1101

It could have gone for additional review. You can apply for GCMS and check the same.

 

[armoured]

It’s strange because the email I just received stated that interview will be about to determine your eligibility regarding your physical presence. It requested to upload all passport pages in colour( current and expired) during the 5 years eligibility. I have already provided my current passport copies when I submitted the application but didn’t include the expired passport

No sense thinking about it too hard. General comments from those who've been through it are that they do some of this on a random checking basis, but also that (not surprisingly) they sometimes check where their exit/entry records don't fully match. They may also check some other random stuff (eg check language knowledge - but not with some detailed test, just chat).

I've ordered CBSA entry/exit records for a family member who travels a lot, and despite all travel being recently - that is, since they supposedly capture all entries and exits - there was one exit missing. Not that I expect an issue with it, just saying that they do end up with gaps in their records and may just want to check. This may be even more important in some cases, where the gap in their records could be quite long even though it's just one missed entry or exit.

But even that: some of this is (reportedly) just spot-checking by random selection.

 

[USProgrammer]

I'm actually worried about my Physical Prescence too. I requested via ATIP several times and never got a good response showing all my entries and exits (before I applied).

I'm a US citizen and we don't get stamped. I entered usually on my NEXUS card and exited/entered the US many, many times on either passport, passport card, GE card, or NEXUS card.

I hope they somehow use all my document numbers, because my passport alone basically only shows a couple entries.

 

[armoured]

I hope they somehow use all my document numbers, because my passport alone basically only shows a couple entries.

For the electronic records that CBSA keeps from air departures, they record the PR card number on entry and whatever document used to board plane/register on flight (usually passport). If using nexus etc presumably that has the same info - dont' know if it shows the nexus/ge cards separately.

I can't speak to the land crossings on entry to Canada (didn't have any) - I presume / believe they use those RFID scanners to record whatever doc you present.

I haven't seen what they get/record from the US authorities for land crossings.

But at any rate at CBSA they don't seem to have any difficulty linking the docs to a given person (eg UCI). Most of the time anyway.

 

[moman21]

I hope so because it’s not fair that people are stuck on either LPP for a long time or still waiting for their Oath. I know personal individuals who applied in the end of November and got their application approved with in 3 month!!! Anyway, good luck to all who are still waiting for their LPP or oath. I hope the Vancouver office can clear out the backlogs from September and October applicants.

It could simply be that your application was selected for quality assurance check which would prompt the interview OR your security check (prohibitions) is still pending. I don't think IRCC is sitting around targeting individuals so they can delay and drag out their applications. Canadian citizenship is not a right if you're naturalizing, It is a privilege and the government is under no obligation to grant citizenship. Let's keep that in mind.

 

[USProgrammer]

For the electronic records that CBSA keeps from air departures, they record the PR card number on entry and whatever document used to board plane/register on flight (usually passport). If using nexus etc presumably that has the same info - dont' know if it shows the nexus/ge cards separately.

I can't speak to the land crossings on entry to Canada (didn't have any) - I presume / believe they use those RFID scanners to record whatever doc you present.

I haven't seen what they get/record from the US authorities for land crossings.

But at any rate at CBSA they don't seem to have any difficulty linking the docs to a given person (eg UCI). Most of the time anyway.

I got NEXUS after being a PR and never used the PR to enter again (tapped NEXUS card on the NEXUS terminal). I had GE before NEXUS. My ATIP was missing a lot of data even when I resubmitted with all document numbers.

For instance, I crossed the bridge by foot in Niagara Falls using just my passport card to the US and then I came back to Canada with passport card + PR card.

My ATIP was just missing a lot. I hope they have it all better than they could put it together for my ATIP. I had no presence questions when renewing my PR card a year ago-ish, so hopefully it's not an issue.

 

[moman21]

I'm actually worried about my Physical Prescence too. I requested via ATIP several times and never got a good response showing all my entries and exits (before I applied).

I'm a US citizen and we don't get stamped. I entered usually on my NEXUS card and exited/entered the US many, many times on either passport, passport card, GE card, or NEXUS card.

I hope they somehow use all my document numbers, because my passport alone basically only shows a couple entries.

Don't worry, as US citizens, all our exits and entries are shared with Canada. There is an agreement between CBSA and USCBP.
You should order your entry and exit from USCBP as well. This will show when you entered the US from Canada and you can piece together your time in Canada.

 

[armoured]

My ATIP was just missing a lot. I hope they have it all better than they could put it together for my ATIP. I had no presence questions when renewing my PR card a year ago-ish, so hopefully it's not an issue.

My guess is don't worry about it. If you've been keeping records and it mostly matches up with theirs, they'll probably trust your records (after they do some checking to see it checks out). Assuming of course your counts are > 1095. (How many did you apply with? Trying to decide how much buffer to use for my family member when they apply in a month or so.)

Fingers crossed, anyway.

 

[USProgrammer]

Don't worry, as US citizens, all our exits and entries are shared with Canada. There is an agreement between CBSA and USCBP.
You should order your entry and exit from USCBP as well. This will show when you entered the US from Canada and you can piece together your time in Canada.

I did, but it was similarly incomplete due to not using all document numbers. And it took like 6 months to get a response from CBP through Secure Release. We can't use the I-94 site as citizens.

 

[USProgrammer]

My guess is don't worry about it. If you've been keeping records and it mostly matches up with theirs, they'll probably trust your records (after they do some checking to see it checks out). Assuming of course your counts are > 1095. (How many did you apply with? Trying to decide how much buffer to use for my family member when they apply in a month or so.)

Fingers crossed, anyway.

1106. I was going to do 5 days buffer, but I noticed in the ATIP response they had several days as the day after, since all times were in EST and I arrived in MST many times. It was the day before in Calgary, though it appeared as the day after in Toronto/Ottawa.

I don't know how the law is interpreted, since I don't think the law says everyone exists in Ontario time, but I didn't want to risk it. I reported my days as the day I actually arrived in MST, not the EST time from ATIP.

I assume that is very common.