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November 2021 - Citizenship applications

Franko72

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Yeah I am a bit confused with these comments. I thought everything except the 'Citizenship Oath' needs to be completed to be even considered for oath. Is that no the case anymore?
The Citizenship agent does an analysis on your language, physical presence and the prohibitions... that is the last step, if everything is ok, that will be clear in the same day.
 

Franko72

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Forgive me but where are you getting all these numbers and info from?
All from online, immigration firms, IRCC, news, etc. I would post something that I haven't checked.
 

Franko72

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Guys, you should read the news, check other forums, and check official pages to come to your OWN conclusion. The information I'm sharing is MY CONCLUSION, I'm a researcher and basically for me is really easy to come up with a forecast.

Meaning of forecast: verb: to predict or estimate, noun: a prediction or estimate of future events, especially coming weather or a financial trend.

Some sources that are important, and WHY you will see an improvement in the process, that you guys SHOULD read instead of just thinking that paper applications are being treated differently. This is for the sake of all of us, and we will see an improvement. As we have. Sean Fraser is the new IRCC Minister, since December 2021, and he is making a LOT of positive changes.
- https://pm.gc.ca/en/mandate-letters/2021/12/16/minister-immigration-refugees-and-citizenship-mandate-letter
- https://www.canada.ca/en/immigration-refugees-citizenship/news/2022/01/measures-to-improve-client-experience-and-modernize-canadas-immigration-system.html
- https://www.canada.ca/content/dam/ircc/documents/pdf/english/infographic/3282-Modernization-infographic-2022-final-EN.pdf
 

mohoozee

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Guys, you should read the news, check other forums, and check official pages to come to your OWN conclusion. The information I'm sharing is MY CONCLUSION, I'm a researcher and basically for me is really easy to come up with a forecast.

Meaning of forecast: verb: to predict or estimate, noun: a prediction or estimate of future events, especially coming weather or a financial trend.

Some sources that are important, and WHY you will see an improvement in the process, that you guys SHOULD read instead of just thinking that paper applications are being treated differently. This is for the sake of all of us, and we will see an improvement. As we have. Sean Fraser is the new IRCC Minister, since December 2021, and he is making a LOT of positive changes.
- https://pm.gc.ca/en/mandate-letters/2021/12/16/minister-immigration-refugees-and-citizenship-mandate-letter
- https://www.canada.ca/en/immigration-refugees-citizenship/news/2022/01/measures-to-improve-client-experience-and-modernize-canadas-immigration-system.html
- https://www.canada.ca/content/dam/ircc/documents/pdf/english/infographic/3282-Modernization-infographic-2022-final-EN.pdf
Nothing from what you posted corroborates your claim that 30% of citizenship applicants awaiting oath are outside the country. Your 60,000 number is the approximate backlog as at 31st of January,2022 when the report was published (nothing to indicate this number hasn't grown or decrease since then).

Well, you maybe a researcher but collecting data and interpreting/presenting them in an accurate manner are two very different things.
 

Franko72

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Nothing from what you posted corroborates your claim that 30% of citizenship applicants awaiting oath are outside the country. Your 60,000 number is the approximate backlog as at 31st of January,2022 when the report was published (nothing to indicate this number hasn't grown or decrease since then).

Well, you may be a researcher but collecting data and interpreting/presenting them in an accurate manner are two very different things.
I know that ALWAYS there are going to be haters on any platform. It is TOO easy to ignore my post if you don't like it or don't believe it. As I mentioned before I have sources like immigration lawyers and consultants, and I talk to them often.

At least I'm investigating and not just judging, and if a see a post that I don't agree with I reply with FACTS.

I don't really know why it affects that I mention 30% outland people.... when really is more, and I wanted to give a conservative number. About the 60,000 backlog people.... yes, it has increased. But also they have hired more employees, at the beginning of the year 500 employees, and they keep hiring.

I believe that life has treated you badly, and I'm sorry for you. But do not judge a guy that is on the other side of the computer trying to give hope to all the people like me, who are working hard, paying our taxes and still living in Canada. I'm really positive that all these changes will bring really good things. And we will have amazing news in our process. :)

God bless you, and I hope you can smile like I'm doing it while I write these words. Have an amazing day!
 

mohoozee

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I know that ALWAYS there are going to be haters on any platform. It is TOO easy to ignore my post if you don't like it or don't believe it. As I mentioned before I have sources like immigration lawyers and consultants, and I talk to them often.

At least I'm investigating and not just judging, and if a see a post that I don't agree with I reply with FACTS.

I don't really know why it affects that I mention 30% outland people.... when really is more, and I wanted to give a conservative number. About the 60,000 backlog people.... yes, it has increased. But also they have hired more employees, at the beginning of the year 500 employees, and they keep hiring.

I believe that life has treated you badly, and I'm sorry for you. But do not judge a guy that is on the other side of the computer trying to give hope to all the people like me, who are working hard, paying our taxes and still living in Canada. I'm really positive that all these changes will bring really good things. And we will have amazing news in our process. :)

God bless you, and I hope you can smile like I'm doing it while I write these words. Have an amazing day!
Seriously, that was your response? Asking you to back up your claims makes me a hater!!! Incredible. The internet has really gone nuts. Good luck to you.
 

Franko72

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Here are some numbers for people that had a test, again this is just a forecast taken from a sample from the spreadsheet:

Taking into count the dates when people had their tests, there is an improvement so far in 2022, and it has decreased the days of waiting for each phase after the test. Around 68 days (average), from the day of the test to the Oath Ceremony. Again... this is just taking in count numbers, not situations (Document requests, interviews, etc.) I just took FINISHED cases for this exercise. Although the promise of the government is 4 months after DM.

2022Test to DMDM to OLOL to OC
Average341816
2021Test to DMDM to OLOL to OC
Average743221
Improvement
-40​
-14​
-4​

DM- Decision Made
OL - Oath Letter - Invitation
OC - Oath Ceremony

Disclaimer: This information is the one on the file, provided by various individuals, and none of that has been corroborated with any official source.
 

americanidiot

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The Citizenship agent does an analysis on your language, physical presence and the prohibitions... that is the last step, if everything is ok, that will be clear in the same day.
You make it sound as if it's done in one day. While that's possible, physical presence requires them to verify against CBSA records. Language is verified against the authority that conducted the test. It's not merely an agent looking at the things you provided and hitting OK. The point being, this needs to be closed for the oath to be done. You may see it update on a single day but that day may not come for a few weeks or months because they haven't done the work to verify it
 

Franko72

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LOL. I hope you guys come with FACTS.

ans everybody knows that after the test the citizenship teams checks your file and it takes between 70 to 90 days during that analysis. And AGAIN, if everything is of you get you Oath Letter (invitation).

while they check uour file during that time they may ask for socuments, request an interview or reject your file. BUT after the test if everything is positive the next step is the Oath letter (invitation). They will clear Language, physical presence and prohibitions and clear them the same date AFTER those 70 to 90 days of analysis.

if it takes time is because they are working on the files and conducting the respective research.

Yes, I have time, because I have my own business and is related somehow to immigration. Every day I talk to people in the federal government, embassies, colleges and universities. They give me facts.

Again every case different.

Really guys if you don’t like my post just ignore it.pr help the community with facts and sources. :)

You guys make me laugh with your comments. LOL
 

DJSHO

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I believe that life has treated you badly, and I'm sorry for you.
This is what was wrong in your original post. If you had said "I believe based on my research that xxx is my estimate" that is perfectly fine as it is your opinion or thought process.

But you stated it like a fact, which is equivalent to spreading misinformation and not stating an opinion.

Hope this clarifies why your post triggered many folks and maybe a few supporters.

PS: I stated in my previous post here that 'Based on my estimate from the data on the tracker, I expect the next update on my file should be around 2 months from date of test completion'. No one had an issue with my statement coz I'm explicitly mentioning that this is my estimate based on a small source.
 
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PMV

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….anyway.

Let’s hope everyone clears the test stage smoothly and we can all receive oath invitations soon.
 
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Boubiyette

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I'm an online applicant and I just received the email invite for the test. Weirdly, the online tracker shows zero updates (everything still In Progress or Not Started), but I guess it takes some time to be reflected there.

Application type: Online
Location: Toronto, Ontario
Physical Presence Days: 1098
Application: Single
Application sent: November 29, 2021
Delivered: November 29, 2021
AOR: February 9, 2022
Test Invite: April 20, 2022
hello on the google sheet tracker they putted you on paper application make sure they replace it with online application