November 2018 AOR - Join here

[Aburleigh]

First ghost update for me, just now!
AOR Nov 3, MEP Dec 1st
Criminality in progress since Dec 1st, Eligibility and Security not started as per my last call on Friday last week.
VO Calgary.

Congratulations, this is great news! For me I believe this meant an agent had picked up my file and updated criminality as completed. I had a couple more updates after that very close together, then silence again since march 27th, maybe security underway?
Fingers crossed this means we will all hear good news by the end of the month! very excited for us all!

 

[derkdsou]

Hey, it's okay to rant from time to time, I get it. I'm not actually advocating that certain applicants merit being processed faster. CEC candidates are already in Canada on a valid visa and it's only a matter of time before receiving a PPR. Other people will be displacing themselves usually across the world, which requires meticulous planning. That said, I am not saying that any applicants should be prioritized over others. Poor planning and resource allocation at IRCC results in such perverse outcomes as candidates receiving their PPR in less than 60 days, whereas other candidates have to linger for over 6 months based solely on their country of residence.

Two things:
1. Since the revamp and overhaul of the economic immigration programs for Canada, the bulk of the processing for candidates occurs onshore in Canada and not at far-flung VOs. In a structure where almost all of the processing is being handled by officers sitting in cubicles next to one another in Sydney or Ottawa, etc., I can't explain why a US-resident Indian is prioritized over an Indian resident. Why can't everyone just finish around the same time?
2. Second, allow me to bust a myth: Indian applicants from outside of India handily outnumber Indian applicants from within India (see a chart I made), yet processing for Indians who are resident in the US is about two months shorter than for Indian residents.

[Start of the rant. I don't know, I think CEC's are the true stepchildren. Nobody cares about us, still waiting without even a ghost update, whereas people on the other side of the world get PPR in 60-70 days. Nothing against them, just hurts when you have a job, education, paying taxes already etc. I mean a lot of newcomers are not even guaranteed to get a job in their field. One would think that it would be efficient to accept people who are already settled. End]

I know it's frustrating, but India being slow is no surprise looking at the sheer number of applications coming from there.

 

[vimalvgovind]

Hey, it's okay to rant from time to time, I get it. I'm not actually advocating that certain applicants merit being processed faster. CEC candidates are already in Canada on a valid visa and it's only a matter of time before receiving a PPR. Other people will be displacing themselves usually across the world, which requires meticulous planning. That said, I am not saying that any applicants should be prioritized over others. Poor planning and resource allocation at IRCC results in such perverse outcomes as candidates receiving their PPR in less than 60 days, whereas other candidates have to linger for over 6 months based solely on their country of residence.

Two things:
1. Since the revamp and overhaul of the economic immigration programs for Canada, the bulk of the processing for candidates occurs onshore in Canada and not at far-flung VOs. In a structure where almost all of the processing is being handled by officers sitting in cubicles next to one another in Sydney or Ottawa, etc., I can't explain why a US-resident Indian is prioritized over an Indian resident. Why can't everyone just finish around the same time?
2. Second, allow me to bust a myth: Indian applicants from outside of India handily outnumber Indian applicants from within India (see a chart I made), yet processing for Indians who are resident in the US is about two months shorter than for Indian residents.

I lost hope of getting PPR anytime sooner or even suspect some rejection. I was never a negative guy but the circumstances are making me also to rant about this improper handling of cases by IRCC. I have crossed 160 days (fsw -O NDVO) and last update was ADR (RPRF) on Dec 13 2018. Atleast IRCC must provide a clear and transparent status showing where is it lying. This tension is taking a huge toll as many other things are dependent on this.
P.S - Sorry to those who feel I am spreading negativety. Kindly ignore my comment. Can't help but to put this.

 

[derkdsou]

You hit the nail on the head - being in the dark while you wait is the real test, in my opinion. Out with the arbitrariness, in with more transparency.

I lost hope of getting PPR anytime sooner or even suspect some rejection. I was never a negative guy but the circumstances are making me also to rant about this improper handling of cases by IRCC. I have crossed 160 days (fsw -O NDVO) and last update was ADR (RPRF) on Dec 13 2018. Atleast IRCC must provide a clear and transparent status showing where is it lying. This tension is taking a huge toll as many other things are dependent on this.
P.S - Sorry to those who feel I am spreading negativety. Kindly ignore my comment. Can't help but to put this.

 

[derkdsou]

You've had an update followed by a ghost update, so all the signs are that you should receive your PPR in the next few business days! Good luck! If you don't receive your PPR in 5 business days, call IRCC and ask about the status of your application.

Thanks...
One more stupid question...Does 2nd Ghost update means documents are verified...?? Chances of ADR is nill now...???

Hey @g90! Like a call center agent once told me, sending in more documents unprompted (i.e., without an ADR) can either slow down or speed up your application or have no effect at all -- it is not possible to say. I will assume that this savings account has already been mentioned in the bank's letter that you provided? Statements are technically not necessary if you meet all of the other requirements for POF, but it is something that most people send in anyway out of an abundance of caution. If the bank's letter is complete with all of the information requested then statements may not be requested, especially if the minimum account balance for the past six months is above the cutoff ($12,669 for a single applicant and so on).

I have three FDs which I have shown for PoF. I have submitted only bank letter and the scans of FD leaves.
I am having these FDs since January 2017 and they are constantly getting renewed year by year. I got AoR in December 2018 so they were almost two years old at the time of AoR. So the six months statements of my linked savings account would have got no mention of these FDs. What do you advise, statements still needed?

 

[derkdsou]

I don't know if anyone has replied to this yet, but I thought I'd take a crack at it. All IRCC is interested in is a true picture of your assets over liabilities and for you to provide a letter from all of the banks or providers of credit (loans, credit cards, etc.) so an officer can determine that you have the required minimum funds liquid and ready to use in Canada following your move. While I am not qualified to comment on the specific questions you are asking, it looks like you have presented information to IRCC from several different accounts held with several banks and you would therefore need to have submitted a letter from each of those financial institutions answering all of the questions posed by them (copied below for convenience):

"For proof, you must get official letters from any banks or financial institutions where you’re keeping money.

Letter(s) must

• be printed on the financial institution’s letterhead
• include their contact information (address, telephone number and email address)
• include your name
• list outstanding debts such as credit card debts and loans
• include, for each current bank and investment account, the
  • account numbers
  • date each account was opened
  • current balance of each account
  • average balance for the past 6 months"

Hello,

Actually, I have shown Total 28,596 CAD and I need to show 15,700 CAD for Two (So already show way more than needed)

To give you more idea, Let me tell you how my Funds looks like,

Current Status:
AOR: 20th Jan 2019
MEP: 28th Feb 2019
BIL Request: 28th Feb 2019
Ghost Update 1: After Medical is Passed: 1st March 2019
Moved File Sydney to NDVO: 1st March

Document Submitted For POF:

• Letter of Explanation (All funds in one Table)
• Bank letters and 6-month statements for all saving accounts
• Balance Certificate Provided by bank
• Mutual Fund Statement from Inception along with funds Terms and Condition links for and highlighted Redemption section. All funds are liquid funds and can be redeemed anytime and the amount will be transferred in saving account within 7-8 working days. (Also added in LOE)

-----------------LIQUID FUND-----------------------
Savings Account 1 : 3,06,675 Lacks = 5777 CAD (6 Months Old Balance)
Savings Account 2: 3,49,030 Lacks= 6401 CAD (3 Months Old Recent Transaction then AOR, Nothing Mentioned in LOE, PF matured balance transferred from another bank account to saving account )
FD Bank1:: 2,00,000 Lacks = 3766 CAD (1-Year-old FD but it is already matured after 1 month of AOR so Do I need to upload updated FD?)
FD Bank 2: 2,03,061 Lacks = 3621 CAD (3 Months Old FD then AOR, not 6 Month? Nothing mentioned in LOE, Should I share source now?)
FD Bank 3: 49,869 K = 914 CAD (6 Months old FD)
Employees Provident Fund: 1,22,609 Lacks = 2286 CAD (Letter attached provided by Government of India)
--------------------------------------------------------------------
TOTAL FUNDS: 12,31,244 Lacks : 22,765 CAD

-------------------ADDITIONAL FUNDS----------------------
(For all Mutual fundsMentioned with LOE that this is liquid funds and after redemption amount will be deposited in the account within 7 working days along with Online Terms and Condition page link for each fund)

Reliance Mutual Fund: 1,14,452 Lacks = 2134 CAD
DHFL Pramerica Mutual Fund: 1,06,626 Lacks= 1988 CAD
CANARA ROBECO Mutual Fund: 43,686 K= 814 CAD
Franklin Templeton Investments: 48,038 K = 895 CAD
---------------------------------------------------------------------
TOTAL FUNDS: 3,12,802 Lacks = 5831 CAD

FINAL TOTAL FUNDS: 15,44,046 LACKS = 28,596 CAD
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Kindly Advice do I need to provide an explanation for whatever marked in red or I should be fine. An agent told me when I called in Sydney file was recommended positive and moved to NDVO and all stages will be performed by NDVO.

Best Regards,

 

[Xhosa]

I hope we get some update. Any November 1st week applicants getting update??
Any idea if ircc works on Easter ?

Easter is a government holiday.

 

[pretty apple]

For CEC inland applicants.... they can get PPR email any day or only on mondays.

 

[SithLord]

Hi everyone !
My Background check has changed to "we are processing your BGC"
Is this is a positive sign? Any idea how long does it take to complete this check and what could be the next step ?
AOR: 2Nov,2018
FSW - India/ single

Much Thanks !!!

Great to see another Nov 2 getting update.

Any movement is always a good sign.

 

[kattarrina]

Congratulations, this is great news! For me I believe this meant an agent had picked up my file and updated criminality as completed. I had a couple more updates after that very close together, then silence again since march 27th, maybe security underway?
Fingers crossed this means we will all hear good news by the end of the month! very excited for us all!

Did you call? Could be approved by they just haven't sent an email yet or they are reviewing the ADR...

Fingers crossed for all of us

 

[kattarrina]

Easter is a government holiday.

They will not work on the 19th and 22nd

 

[SithLord]

Yup. It's Ottawa. Any idea how much time it's taking to receive PPR once RPRF is paid at this stage?

I believe 2-3 weeks.

 

[SithLord]

I lost hope of getting PPR anytime sooner or even suspect some rejection. I was never a negative guy but the circumstances are making me also to rant about this improper handling of cases by IRCC. I have crossed 160 days (fsw -O NDVO) and last update was ADR (RPRF) on Dec 13 2018. Atleast IRCC must provide a clear and transparent status showing where is it lying. This tension is taking a huge toll as many other things are dependent on this.
P.S - Sorry to those who feel I am spreading negativety. Kindly ignore my comment. Can't help but to put this.

It was strange for me to see a rant/negative post on this thread that does not have my name on it. I had to check twice to see if I was in the correct November thread lol

This waiting game is not an easy task. It actually gets even cruel when you see others getting their PPR faster while you wait in the dark. People have invested their valuable time into this. Not only are they putting their entire lives on hold but they have no clear picture as to when this nightmare would end. What at first you thought would be 6 months could turn out to be 7, 8 or even a year.

Sometime ago, I mentioned that Canada immigration system is fair compared to other countries. However, their processing time really needs improvement so people can be better prepared and are not left in the dark for ages.

So it's okay to rant buddy!! Everybody is allowed to post what they feel like. We are all going through the same thing. Isn't this forum to support each other? So hang on!!

Super Sorry I went way off topic. Old habit lol Not the kind of post anyone wants to see here at a time when there is so many positivity going on with PPRs and updates raining. Please ignore this post and scroll away

Guys, we are not even halfway through this month!! We are all eventually going to make it

 

[SithLord]

For those who are wondering why their applications have no movement because this is why

It's being handled by a sloth

 

[Xhosa]

They will not work on the 19th and 22nd

Yes both Good Friday and Easter Monday are Govt holidays