Non-Express Entry(PNP) Online Applications Gather here

[Miss bee]

Hello @Miss bee .. I hope you are well and can answer my query on what is the best thing to do.

I submitted my NON-express entry pr application last November 2024 and currently waiting for AOR. I am expecting it within this month.

I have an active Express Entry profile and yesterday, I received an invitation to apply under the CEC-Education category.

I am now confused whether to accept this EE invitation OR just wait and continue with my NON-express entry application?

Also, does express entry and non-express differ only in AOR time arrival?

What could be the best thing to do? My PGWP will expire in October 2026.

Thank you in advance.

Non-Express Entry PR application: Submitted in November 2024, AOR still pending.

• Express Entry (EE) profile: You received an ITA under the CEC-Education category recently.
• PGWP expires in October 2026: So you still have about 1.5 years of legal status .

Your Options
Option 1: Accept the Express Entry Invitation

• Pros:
  • Much faster processing time (CEC files often processed in under 6–8 months).
  • You will receive AOR immediately upon submitting the application.
  • You can apply for a Bridging Open Work Permit (BOWP) when you’re within 4 months of PGWP expiry (June 2026), and you’ll have AOR by then.
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• Cons:
  • You will likely need to withdraw your Non-EE application once EE PR is approved to avoid duplicate processing.

Option 2: Ignore the EE Invitation and Stick with Non-EE

• Pros:
  • Simpler if you’ve already invested time and effort into this stream.
• 
  
• Cons:
  • Slower process.
  • No AOR yet — if delays continue, it may drag on significantly.
  • No significant benefit over EE unless your non-EE category gives you some advantage (e.g., more stable processing for specific PNP streams).

Recommendation
Given your strong position (CEC-eligible, PGWP valid until October 2026), I recommend accepting the Express Entry (CEC-Education category) invitation and submitting a new EE PR application.

Once you receive your EE AOR, you can let both applications run in parallel for a while. Later, if your EE application progresses well (e.g., medicals passed, background in progress), you can choose to withdraw the Non-Express Entry application to avoid duplication.

 

[Miss bee]

I have a question. My wife and I just got our WP extensions approved while we wait for our non-EE PR application to be processed. This is our timeline:

Inland Non-EE PNP / PR Application
Submitted - Jul 23, 2024
AOR+BIL+ADR - Dec 23, 2024
ADR sent - Dec 24, 2024
Biometrics submitted - Dec 30, 2024
Medicals passed - Feb 3, 2025
PAL - Feb 4, 2025

Our next step would be final decision and then P1. I've seen other people with similar timelines receiving P1 or even P2 already.

My wife wants to travel outside of Canada by the end of May for a week. What are the scenarios if:

1. We get P1 while she's outside of Canada (considering she'll only be away for a week).
2. We get P1 just before she leaves Canada.
3. We get P1 and P2 before she leaves Canada.

We're considering any complications with her/our PR process before deciding to travel.

I'll appreciate your help.

What is P1 and P2?
P1 (Portal 1 Email): IRCC asks if you’re in Canada and ready to receive PR confirmation via the portal.

• P2 (Portal 2 Email): You’re invited to create a PR portal account, provide address and photo, and then receive eCOPR.

Scenario 1: You Get P1 While She’s Outside Canada

Issue: P1 asks if the applicant is physically in Canada. If your wife is abroad, you must wait until she returns before replying “yes.”

• Complication: No major issue as long as you don’t respond to the P1 email until she’s back in Canada.
• Action: Wait until she returns, then reply to P1 confirming you’re both inside Canada.

Important: She must physically be in Canada when confirming presence via P1 and again when eCOPR is issued.

Scenario 2: You Get P1 Just Before She Leaves Canada

• Option A: If you receive P1 and respond immediately (confirming you’re both in Canada), and get P2 shortly after, you may proceed as normal as long as she doesn’t leave until eCOPR is issued.
• Option B: If you get P1 just before travel but don’t get P2 before she departs, wait to respond to P1 after she returns.

Risk: If you reply to P1 while she’s still in Canada but she leaves before P2 or eCOPR is issued, this may cause issues — IRCC requires applicants to remain in Canada until PR confirmation is complete.

Scenario 3: You Get P1 and P2 Before She Leaves


Best Case: If you both get to P2 and receive eCOPR before she leaves, she is a confirmed PR and can re-enter Canada as a PR.

• Key Requirement: She must receive eCOPR before departure. Until then, she is not officially a PR.
• Travel Document: After eCOPR, she’ll need a PR Travel Document (PRTD) if she doesn’t have a PR card yet to return to Canada — unless she has a valid TRV/eTA and travels with her passport.

 

[Miss bee]

@Miss bee , I didn’t pay biometrics fee with my application because I thought mine were already done. I later paid and tried submitting my biometrics payment receipt via web form before I received my AOR, but then I received AOR on April 10 but they said they didn’t have my biometrics receipt and asked for biometrics payment. I uploaded my biometrics receipt via web form again and received confirmation that it was received on April 14. I have still not received my BIL now. Can you please tell me when will I receive my BIL? Thank you!

When you submitted your application without the biometrics fee, IRCC did not issue a Biometrics Instruction Letter (BIL) because the required payment was missing. Although you later paid the fee and submitted the receipt via web form before receiving your Acknowledgment of Receipt (AOR), IRCC may not have linked that submission to your file at the time. After receiving your AOR on April 10, IRCC formally requested the biometrics fee, indicating they still had not associated your earlier payment with your application. You correctly re-submitted the biometrics receipt via web form on April 14 and received confirmation of its receipt. While this is a positive sign, IRCC still needs to process and apply the receipt to your file before issuing the BIL. This can take a few days to a few weeks depending on their current workload and processing capacity. If it has been more than two weeks since the confirmation and you still have not received your BIL, it may be a good idea to follow up again through a web form, clearly referencing your UCI and application number, and attaching the payment receipt once more to ensure proper linkage.

 

[Pojua1]

What is P1 and P2?
P1 (Portal 1 Email): IRCC asks if you’re in Canada and ready to receive PR confirmation via the portal.

• P2 (Portal 2 Email): You’re invited to create a PR portal account, provide address and photo, and then receive eCOPR.

Scenario 1: You Get P1 While She’s Outside Canada

Issue: P1 asks if the applicant is physically in Canada. If your wife is abroad, you must wait until she returns before replying “yes.”

• Complication: No major issue as long as you don’t respond to the P1 email until she’s back in Canada.
• Action: Wait until she returns, then reply to P1 confirming you’re both inside Canada.

Important: She must physically be in Canada when confirming presence via P1 and again when eCOPR is issued.

Scenario 2: You Get P1 Just Before She Leaves Canada

• Option A: If you receive P1 and respond immediately (confirming you’re both in Canada), and get P2 shortly after, you may proceed as normal as long as she doesn’t leave until eCOPR is issued.
• Option B: If you get P1 just before travel but don’t get P2 before she departs, wait to respond to P1 after she returns.

Risk: If you reply to P1 while she’s still in Canada but she leaves before P2 or eCOPR is issued, this may cause issues — IRCC requires applicants to remain in Canada until PR confirmation is complete.

Scenario 3: You Get P1 and P2 Before She Leaves


Best Case: If you both get to P2 and receive eCOPR before she leaves, she is a confirmed PR and can re-enter Canada as a PR.

• Key Requirement: She must receive eCOPR before departure. Until then, she is not officially a PR.
• Travel Document: After eCOPR, she’ll need a PR Travel Document (PRTD) if she doesn’t have a PR card yet to return to Canada — unless she has a valid TRV/eTA and travels with her passport.

What if my work permit is valid and I got both p1 and p2 before traveling for just a week? Can I use my work permit as travel document?

 

[zd141899]

What is P1 and P2?
P1 (Portal 1 Email): IRCC asks if you’re in Canada and ready to receive PR confirmation via the portal.

• P2 (Portal 2 Email): You’re invited to create a PR portal account, provide address and photo, and then receive eCOPR.

Scenario 1: You Get P1 While She’s Outside Canada

Issue: P1 asks if the applicant is physically in Canada. If your wife is abroad, you must wait until she returns before replying “yes.”

• Complication: No major issue as long as you don’t respond to the P1 email until she’s back in Canada.
• Action: Wait until she returns, then reply to P1 confirming you’re both inside Canada.

Important: She must physically be in Canada when confirming presence via P1 and again when eCOPR is issued.

Scenario 2: You Get P1 Just Before She Leaves Canada

• Option A: If you receive P1 and respond immediately (confirming you’re both in Canada), and get P2 shortly after, you may proceed as normal as long as she doesn’t leave until eCOPR is issued.
• Option B: If you get P1 just before travel but don’t get P2 before she departs, wait to respond to P1 after she returns.

Risk: If you reply to P1 while she’s still in Canada but she leaves before P2 or eCOPR is issued, this may cause issues — IRCC requires applicants to remain in Canada until PR confirmation is complete.

Scenario 3: You Get P1 and P2 Before She Leaves


Best Case: If you both get to P2 and receive eCOPR before she leaves, she is a confirmed PR and can re-enter Canada as a PR.

• Key Requirement: She must receive eCOPR before departure. Until then, she is not officially a PR.
• Travel Document: After eCOPR, she’ll need a PR Travel Document (PRTD) if she doesn’t have a PR card yet to return to Canada — unless she has a valid TRV/eTA and travels with her passport.

If I get just ecopr and leave country, can i return back with my indian passport + canada visitor visa ( tht i already have for 10 years ) ?

 

[Jack7879]

Hello @Miss bee I am currently on a work permit and have applied for permanent residency under the Non-Express Entry Provincial Nominee Program (PNP). My application is under process, and the last update I received was the Pre-Arrival Letter (PAL) at the end of January. I am now planning to visit my home country for 18 to 20 days. I would like to know if this travel is allowed, and whether I might be asked to provide a new police clearance certificate (PCC) upon returning to Canada after the short visit ?

Thanks

 

[andrews17]

Hello @Miss bee I am currently on a work permit and have applied for permanent residency under the Non-Express Entry Provincial Nominee Program (PNP). My application is under process, and the last update I received was the Pre-Arrival Letter (PAL) at the end of January. I am now planning to visit my home country for 18 to 20 days. I would like to know if this travel is allowed, and whether I might be asked to provide a new police clearance certificate (PCC) upon returning to Canada after the short visit ?

Thanks

You should be fine. If your passport requires a TRV to enter Canada, make sure yours is still valid. You'll need a valid TRV and the work permit you already mentioned to reenter Canada.

Also, if you receive P1 email while still abroad, you must only reply when you're back in Canada.

You won't be asked for a new PCC from your home country as you won't be staying more than 6 months.

 

[Miss bee]

Hello @Miss bee I am currently on a work permit and have applied for permanent residency under the Non-Express Entry Provincial Nominee Program (PNP). My application is under process, and the last update I received was the Pre-Arrival Letter (PAL) at the end of January. I am now planning to visit my home country for 18 to 20 days. I would like to know if this travel is allowed, and whether I might be asked to provide a new police clearance certificate (PCC) upon returning to Canada after the short visit ?

Thanks

You don't need to provide PCC if visit is less than 6 months or 180 days in a row .

 

[Vivek2909]

Based on your timeline, it looks like your application is essentially finalized, and you’re currently just waiting for the final step—receiving the PR portal email. Since your background check was completed on March 13 and the COPR document number and validity appeared in your tracker the next day, it’s clear that IRCC had already approved your application around that time. However, because you entered Canada on a work permit on March 18 and then informed IRCC on March 26 that you are now inside Canada, the process shifted slightly. Normally, for outland applicants, IRCC issues a physical COPR document and finalizes landing at a port of entry or through visa issuance. But since you became inland, they now need to complete your landing through the PR Confirmation Portal instead, which involves a separate inland processing team. This change doesn’t mean there’s a problem with your file—it’s just an internal redirection to finalize your status in a different way.
After you notified IRCC, it’s common to see a short delay while your case is reassigned. The ghost updates you saw in your tracker are actually a good sign, as they usually indicate internal movement on the file, often in preparation for the PR portal invite. The fact that the IRCC agent confirmed all stages are completed is also reassuring—they are simply waiting to issue the portal email. From the time IRCC is notified of a status change from outland to inland, it typically takes anywhere from two to four weeks for the portal email to arrive, though in some cases it can take a little longer. Since you informed them on March 26, you’re still within the normal processing window. The delay you’re experiencing is likely just the result of this transition from outland to inland processing, and not due to any problem with your application. At this point, it’s just a matter of waiting a bit longer for the portal invitation, which should come soon.

@Miss bee Hello, I’m still waiting for my P1. Yesterday I called IRCC and now they confirmed that visa office has confirmed my presence in Canada and approved my Canadian address in their system. I noticed new address update dated May 7th in tracker as well. So, can I assume the process of updating my application or process from Outland (PPR) to Inland (P1) is completed and now can I expect next step of P1 soon…..

 

[Girlygurl]

Did any august 2024?last week applicant got any update on medical , can anyone answer ?

 

[DRAA]

Hi All, is there any update on November applicants?

 

[MapleJourney2024]

Hello,

IRCC sent portal 1 email to my consultant and it ended up in their spam mail. I found out when I called IRCC they told me it’s already been sent. So I contacted them and their team forwarded it to me and I replied today. Through the letter was dated as May 1, 2025 and does say that I have 7 calendar days to replied but I got it done today and it was the 8th day? Does this cause any problems?

 

[Sarper]

background check still in progress,pvo winnipeg!

 

[Mahdi2024]

Hi All, is there any update on November applicants?

Hi, not yet for me. I submitted it on 1 November. Anyone else?

 

[Miss bee]

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Hello,

IRCC sent portal 1 email to my consultant and it ended up in their spam mail. I found out when I called IRCC they told me it’s already been sent. So I contacted them and their team forwarded it to me and I replied today. Through the letter was dated as May 1, 2025 and does say that I have 7 calendar days to replied but I got it done today and it was the 8th day? Does this cause any problems?

No , it won't create any issues. Make sure you reply asap.