Non-Express Entry(PNP) Online Applications Gather here

[Holy spirit my best frien]

Hello @Miss bee , thank you so much. So I received my PAL in September and I sent webforms to IRCC Last week to enquire the stage my application is, and they responded with the following update:

We are pleased to provide you with information regarding the current status of your application for permanent residence.

• The background verifications are currently valid.
• The medical examination results on file are valid for you and your dependent child.
• IRCC is committed to reviewing most permanent residence applications submitted online within a 6-month timeframe,
  • although the processing times may vary, rest assured that IRCC is making the necessary efforts to finalize your application within established processing times.

Please it this a good sign that all is going well. Please could you advise on the next stage. Thank you

 

[Mr. Indian]

Hi @Miss bee

Hope you are doing well

I saw your post for inland application process

Can you please put some light on Outland process, people who are applying from outside canada for same non ee pnp application

Thanks in advance

 

[happyfox00]

After receiving an Acknowledgment of Receipt (AOR) in the Non-Express Entry (Non-EE), does the processing time as same as that of an Express Entry (EE) application?

 

[Miss bee]

Hello @Miss bee , thank you so much. So I received my PAL in September and I sent webforms to IRCC Last week to enquire the stage my application is, and they responded with the following update:

We are pleased to provide you with information regarding the current status of your application for permanent residence.

• The background verifications are currently valid.
• The medical examination results on file are valid for you and your dependent child.
• IRCC is committed to reviewing most permanent residence applications submitted online within a 6-month timeframe,
  • although the processing times may vary, rest assured that IRCC is making the necessary efforts to finalize your application within established processing times.

Please it this a good sign that all is going well. Please could you advise on the next stage. Thank you

Yes, receiving an update like this from IRCC is generally a positive sign. Here’s a breakdown of what this information likely indicates for the status of your PR application:
1. Background Verifications: IRCC has confirmed that background checks are valid, which includes any necessary criminality and possibly security checks. Since these checks are valid, it suggests that this stage has been either completed or is progressing without issues.
2. Medical Examination Results: Both your and your dependent’s medical results are valid, which indicates you don’t need any further medical steps at this time. This helps keep the application in good standing and moves it closer to a decision.
3. Processing Timeline: IRCC mentioned the 6-month timeframe as their goal, which means your application is still within their expected processing window. It’s also a sign that your application is progressing within a normal timeline

Next Stages
Since background checks and medicals are valid, IRCC may now move toward the final review of eligibility and completion of any pending administrative verifications. Here’s what typically comes next:
• Final Review and Decision: IRCC will conduct a final review to ensure all eligibility criteria are met. Since you’ve already received your Pre-Arrival Letter (PAL) and other checks are valid, this stage should proceed smoothly.
• Confirmation of Permanent Residence (COPR): Once all checks and eligibility reviews are completed, the next step is issuing the COPR, which officially grants you permanent residence status.
Your application is likely nearing the final stages, so if everything remains on track, you may receive COPR soon. Keep an eye out for any further communication from IRCC, and don’t hesitate to reach out if you need additional guidance.

 

[Miss bee]

Hi @Miss bee

Hope you are doing well

I saw your post for inland application process

Can you please put some light on Outland process, people who are applying from outside canada for same non ee pnp application

Thanks in advance

For applicants going through the Outland PR process under a non-Express Entry (PNP) stream from outside Canada, the steps are similar to those for inland applicants, but there are a few unique considerations, particularly in terms of timelines and communication. Here’s a detailed breakdown of the Outland process:
1. Application Submission
• Outland applicants typically submit their application either through an online portal or, in some cases, on paper (though IRCC is increasingly moving to digital submissions)
• After submission, IRCC issues an Acknowledgment of Receipt (AOR), confirming that the application has been received and is now being processed.

2. Completeness Check
• IRCC reviews the application to ensure all required documents are present and the forms are complete. If something is missing, they will likely return the application or request additional information.
• This step can sometimes take longer for Outland applications due to different processing centres being involved, often outside of Canada.
3. Medical Examination
• Once the completeness check is passed, IRCC sends a medical request. Outland applicants must complete this with an IRCC-approved physician in their country.
• Once completed, the results are uploaded by the medical centre to IRCC. Outland applicants often receive an update when the medicals are passed.

4. Background and Security Checks
• After medicals, criminality and security background checks begin. These checks ensure the applicant has no criminal or security risks.
• Background checks for Outland applicants can sometimes take longer, especially if the checks involve communication with the applicant’s home country or countries they have lived in for an extended period.
5. Eligibility Assessment
• In this phase, IRCC reviews the applicant’s qualifications, work experience, and other factors to ensure they meet the eligibility requirements of the specific PNP program under which they applied.
• For Outland applications, IRCC often communicates with the Provincial Nominee Program to confirm eligibility.

6. Decision and Pre-Arrival Letter (PAL)
• Once eligibility is confirmed and all background checks are complete, IRCC may issue a Pre-Arrival Letter (PAL). This letter is intended to help applicants access settlement services even before arriving in Canada.
• PAL is a positive sign, indicating the application is nearing completion, though it does not guarantee approval. It shows IRCC is preparing for the applicant’s transition to Canada.

7. Passport Request and COPR
• Once a decision is made, IRCC sends a passport request (PPR) to Outland applicants, asking them to submit their passport for visa stamping.
• Once stamped, the passport is returned along with the Confirmation of Permanent Residence (COPR). The COPR is the document that officially grants permanent residency upon arrival in Canada.

8. Landing in Canada
• Outland applicants use their COPR to “land” in Canada, which formally completes their immigration process.
• Upon entry, a Canada Border Services Agency (CBSA) officer confirms the applicant’s details, and the applicant is granted PR status. They can then apply for their PR card.

 

[Holy spirit my best frien]

Yes, receiving an update like this from IRCC is generally a positive sign. Here’s a breakdown of what this information likely indicates for the status of your PR application:
1. Background Verifications: IRCC has confirmed that background checks are valid, which includes any necessary criminality and possibly security checks. Since these checks are valid, it suggests that this stage has been either completed or is progressing without issues.
2. Medical Examination Results: Both your and your dependent’s medical results are valid, which indicates you don’t need any further medical steps at this time. This helps keep the application in good standing and moves it closer to a decision.
3. Processing Timeline: IRCC mentioned the 6-month timeframe as their goal, which means your application is still within their expected processing window. It’s also a sign that your application is progressing within a normal timeline

Next Stages
Since background checks and medicals are valid, IRCC may now move toward the final review of eligibility and completion of any pending administrative verifications. Here’s what typically comes next:
• Final Review and Decision: IRCC will conduct a final review to ensure all eligibility criteria are met. Since you’ve already received your Pre-Arrival Letter (PAL) and other checks are valid, this stage should proceed smoothly.
• Confirmation of Permanent Residence (COPR): Once all checks and eligibility reviews are completed, the next step is issuing the COPR, which officially grants you permanent residence status.
Your application is likely nearing the final stages, so if everything remains on track, you may receive COPR soon. Keep an eye out for any further communication from IRCC, and don’t hesitate to reach out if you need additional guidance.

Thank you so very much @ Miss Bee. This explanation is quite soothing. I will sure keep you updated. Merry weekend

 

[Mr. Indian]

For applicants going through the Outland PR process under a non-Express Entry (PNP) stream from outside Canada, the steps are similar to those for inland applicants, but there are a few unique considerations, particularly in terms of timelines and communication. Here’s a detailed breakdown of the Outland process:
1. Application Submission
• Outland applicants typically submit their application either through an online portal or, in some cases, on paper (though IRCC is increasingly moving to digital submissions)
• After submission, IRCC issues an Acknowledgment of Receipt (AOR), confirming that the application has been received and is now being processed.

2. Completeness Check
• IRCC reviews the application to ensure all required documents are present and the forms are complete. If something is missing, they will likely return the application or request additional information.
• This step can sometimes take longer for Outland applications due to different processing centres being involved, often outside of Canada.
3. Medical Examination
• Once the completeness check is passed, IRCC sends a medical request. Outland applicants must complete this with an IRCC-approved physician in their country.
• Once completed, the results are uploaded by the medical centre to IRCC. Outland applicants often receive an update when the medicals are passed.

4. Background and Security Checks
• After medicals, criminality and security background checks begin. These checks ensure the applicant has no criminal or security risks.
• Background checks for Outland applicants can sometimes take longer, especially if the checks involve communication with the applicant’s home country or countries they have lived in for an extended period.
5. Eligibility Assessment
• In this phase, IRCC reviews the applicant’s qualifications, work experience, and other factors to ensure they meet the eligibility requirements of the specific PNP program under which they applied.
• For Outland applications, IRCC often communicates with the Provincial Nominee Program to confirm eligibility.

6. Decision and Pre-Arrival Letter (PAL)
• Once eligibility is confirmed and all background checks are complete, IRCC may issue a Pre-Arrival Letter (PAL). This letter is intended to help applicants access settlement services even before arriving in Canada.
• PAL is a positive sign, indicating the application is nearing completion, though it does not guarantee approval. It shows IRCC is preparing for the applicant’s transition to Canada.

7. Passport Request and COPR
• Once a decision is made, IRCC sends a passport request (PPR) to Outland applicants, asking them to submit their passport for visa stamping.
• Once stamped, the passport is returned along with the Confirmation of Permanent Residence (COPR). The COPR is the document that officially grants permanent residency upon arrival in Canada.

8. Landing in Canada
• Outland applicants use their COPR to “land” in Canada, which formally completes their immigration process.
• Upon entry, a Canada Border Services Agency (CBSA) officer confirms the applicant’s details, and the applicant is granted PR status. They can then apply for their PR card.

Hi @Miss bee

Thankyou so much for the information provided,

Thanks

 

[Mr. Indian]

Hi @Miss bee

Please help in this matter


I applied for PR as well as for work permit for me and my spouse and TRV for my child. Today i received a correspondence letter stating that our applications were refused and the reasons were as follows for me:

• I am not satisfied that you will leave Canada at the end of your stay as required by paragraph 200(1)(b) of the IRPR (https://laws.justice.gc.ca/eng/regulations/SOR-2002-227/
section-200.html). I am refusing your application because you have not established that you will leave Canada, based on the following factors:
• You do not have significant family ties outside Canada.
• You were not able to demonstrate that you will be able to adequately perform the work
you seek.

For my spouse:
• I am not satisfied that you will leave Canada at the end of your stay as required by paragraph 200(1)(b) of the IRPR (https://laws.justice.gc.ca/eng/regulations/SOR-2002-227/
section-200.html). I am refusing your application because you have not established that you will leave Canada, based on the following factors:
• The purpose of your visit to Canada is not consistent with a temporary stay given the details you have provided in your application.

For my child:
• I am not satisfied that you will leave Canada at the end of your stay as required by paragraph 179(b) of the IRPR (https://laws-lois.justice.gc.ca/eng/regulations/SOR-2002-227/
section-179.html). I am refusing your application because you have not established that you will leave Canada, based on the following factors:
• The purpose of your visit to Canada is not consistent with a temporary stay given the details you have provided in your application.

What should i do next? please help

 

[Miss bee]

Hi @Miss bee

Please help in this matter


I applied for PR as well as for work permit for me and my spouse and TRV for my child. Today i received a correspondence letter stating that our applications were refused and the reasons were as follows for me:

• I am not satisfied that you will leave Canada at the end of your stay as required by paragraph 200(1)(b) of the IRPR (https://laws.justice.gc.ca/eng/regulations/SOR-2002-227/
section-200.html). I am refusing your application because you have not established that you will leave Canada, based on the following factors:
• You do not have significant family ties outside Canada.
• You were not able to demonstrate that you will be able to adequately perform the work
you seek.

For my spouse:
• I am not satisfied that you will leave Canada at the end of your stay as required by paragraph 200(1)(b) of the IRPR (https://laws.justice.gc.ca/eng/regulations/SOR-2002-227/
section-200.html). I am refusing your application because you have not established that you will leave Canada, based on the following factors:
• The purpose of your visit to Canada is not consistent with a temporary stay given the details you have provided in your application.

For my child:
• I am not satisfied that you will leave Canada at the end of your stay as required by paragraph 179(b) of the IRPR (https://laws-lois.justice.gc.ca/eng/regulations/SOR-2002-227/
section-179.html). I am refusing your application because you have not established that you will leave Canada, based on the following factors:
• The purpose of your visit to Canada is not consistent with a temporary stay given the details you have provided in your application.

What should i do next? please help

First step is ordering GCMS notes to know what exact reason for refusal. Once you get it , attach required information and reapply again. Information on this letter is limited and generic so better order GCMS .

 

[Mandii Rash]

Hello! Since you’ve already received the Pre-Arrival Letter (PAL) and IRCC confirmed that they’re working on finalizing your PR application, it’s unlikely that you’ll need to proactively upload a new Police Certificate unless IRCC specifically requests it. Typically, IRCC may not require a new Police Certificate if your background checks, including criminality, have been completed, as in your case.
However, if they require an updated document, they will send you a request to upload a new Police Certificate. So for now, it should be okay to wait and see if IRCC reaches out with that specific request.

Thank you kindly! I will quickly send a webform to inquire the status of my application, since I applied December 2023.

 

[Mr. Indian]

First step is ordering GCMS notes to know what exact reason for refusal. Once you get it , attach required information and reapply again. Information on this letter is limited and generic so better order GCMS .

Yes, but how can i order GCMS notes

Can i attach AOR which i received

Also what documents i need to attach

Thanks

 

[Miss bee]

Yes, but how can i order GCMS notes

Can i attach AOR which i received

Also what documents i need to attach

Thanks

https://atip-aiprp.apps.gc.ca/atip/welcome.do?lang=en

 

[Elpop123]

Hi @Miss bee i hope your doing great. Im just wondering when you change jobs, would the offer of employment be enough or does province and ircc require LOE too. And should i notify IRCC at the same time or until i get an answer from province

 

[Miss bee]

Hi @Miss bee i hope your doing great.

When you change jobs on a Provincial Nominee Program (PNP) or if your job change affects your Express Entry profile, both the province and IRCC may need updates, but their specific requirements can vary:
Offer of Employment (Job Offer): The new employer’s offer letter is a critical piece of evidence. For IRCC, this shows that you have ongoing employment in Canada and helps validate your points if the offer impacts your Express Entry score. However, most provinces typically require a more formal Letter of Employment (LOE) to confirm that you’re meeting program conditions. Letter of Employment (LOE): Many provinces expect a formal LOE from the employer, detailing your position, salary, job duties, and confirmation that it’s a full-time, permanent position (if applicable). This LOE helps satisfy the province that you meet their requirements and are genuinely tied to the local economy.
Notifying IRCC and the Province
• It’s generally advisable to inform the province first and request their acknowledgment of the change. They may require the new offer, LOE, and compliance documents if relevant.
• Once the province confirms your new job is acceptable for your nomination, notify IRCC. This step-by-step approach avoids potential confusion with IRCC and demonstrates compliance with provincial requirements.

 

[Elpop123]

@Miss bee thank you !!