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peimum

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Mar 23, 2014
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Summerside
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Visa Office......
Mississauga
Job Offer........
Pre-Assessed..
App. Filed.......
October 2013
Med's Done....
Sent with application, again on 08-01-2016
LANDED..........
16-02-2016
My husband received a letter today advising that we have 60 days to get medical, fbi, etc done. The problem is, we have no contact with him.... We have not heard from him in quite some time. Does anyone know who we contact to have him removed from the application or if it is even possible?
 

MaryLou6

Hero Member
Oct 23, 2014
397
25
Category........
Visa Office......
Mississauga, INLAND
Job Offer........
Pre-Assessed..
App. Filed.......
11-09-2014, common-law
Doc's Request.
OWP received May 26.2015, SA & AIP August 31, 2015, DM on September 3, 2015
AOR Received.
14-10-2014
Med's Done....
upfront
LANDED..........
24-09-2015
Are you the sponsor? Or the applicant? Some more information please.
 

peimum

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Mar 23, 2014
64
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124
Summerside
Category........
Visa Office......
Mississauga
Job Offer........
Pre-Assessed..
App. Filed.......
October 2013
Med's Done....
Sent with application, again on 08-01-2016
LANDED..........
16-02-2016
I'm the Sponsor.... and that part is approved. His son (from a previous marriage) is 18 (19 in October). We have no clue how to get ahold of him.
 

Majromax

Hero Member
Nov 19, 2014
312
18
Category........
Visa Office......
CPC-Ottawa
Job Offer........
Pre-Assessed..
App. Filed.......
2014-10-21
AOR Received.
2015-01-11 [Inland AOR rec'd 2014-11-19, corrected]
File Transfer...
2015-01-20 [CSQ applied Feb 9, issued Feb 19]
Passport Req..
[IP: 2015-06-10; DM: 2015-06-30]
VISA ISSUED...
2015-07-20
LANDED..........
2015-07-27
peimum said:
My husband received a letter today advising that we have 60 days to get medical, fbi, etc done. The problem is, we have no contact with him.... We have not heard from him in quite some time. Does anyone know who we contact to have him removed from the application or if it is even possible?
You should contact the visa office (CPC-Ottawa?) to explain the situation. State that the applicant has no contact with his son, and in any event he was in the custody of his other parent. Explain that you are aware that excluding him from the application would mean that he can never be sponsored under the family class.

The outland processing manual (pdf, page 11) has a section on this:

[quote author=CIC]If these family members are genuinely unavailable or unwilling to be examined, the consequences of not having them examined should be clearly explained to the applicant and reflected in the CAIPS notes. Officers may wish to have applicants sign a statutory declaration indicating they understand the consequences of failing to have the family member examined. [/quote]

Proof that your husband has no contact would be advisable, such as a copy of a custody arrangement giving the child's mother sole custody. This exception is intended to be only used when a non-accompanying relative cannot or will not be examined, not simply when it would be inconvenient to do so.
 

peimum

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Mar 23, 2014
64
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Summerside
Category........
Visa Office......
Mississauga
Job Offer........
Pre-Assessed..
App. Filed.......
October 2013
Med's Done....
Sent with application, again on 08-01-2016
LANDED..........
16-02-2016
he is not a minor though.... he is almost 19
 

scylla

VIP Member
Jun 8, 2010
95,881
22,134
Toronto
Category........
Visa Office......
Buffalo
Job Offer........
Pre-Assessed..
App. Filed.......
28-05-2010
AOR Received.
19-08-2010
File Transfer...
28-06-2010
Passport Req..
01-10-2010
VISA ISSUED...
05-10-2010
LANDED..........
05-10-2010
peimum said:
he is not a minor though.... he is almost 19
He is still a minor by CIC's definition. He will stop being a minor once he actually turns 19..
 

Majromax

Hero Member
Nov 19, 2014
312
18
Category........
Visa Office......
CPC-Ottawa
Job Offer........
Pre-Assessed..
App. Filed.......
2014-10-21
AOR Received.
2015-01-11 [Inland AOR rec'd 2014-11-19, corrected]
File Transfer...
2015-01-20 [CSQ applied Feb 9, issued Feb 19]
Passport Req..
[IP: 2015-06-10; DM: 2015-06-30]
VISA ISSUED...
2015-07-20
LANDED..........
2015-07-27
scylla said:
He is still a minor by CIC's definition. He will stop being a minor once he actually turns 19..
Although that won't affect the ongoing application. For immigration purposes, the ages of children are "frozen" when they are added to the application, as otherwise we'd have a perverse scenario where a long process makes some kids "age out" of eligibility.
 

peimum

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Mar 23, 2014
64
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124
Summerside
Category........
Visa Office......
Mississauga
Job Offer........
Pre-Assessed..
App. Filed.......
October 2013
Med's Done....
Sent with application, again on 08-01-2016
LANDED..........
16-02-2016
If we had known it would take 2 years, he would not have been included at all.... he has no desire to be here... I sure hope they can just take him off.... hubby needs to be here for his daughters, the ones that want him in their lives!
 

scylla

VIP Member
Jun 8, 2010
95,881
22,134
Toronto
Category........
Visa Office......
Buffalo
Job Offer........
Pre-Assessed..
App. Filed.......
28-05-2010
AOR Received.
19-08-2010
File Transfer...
28-06-2010
Passport Req..
01-10-2010
VISA ISSUED...
05-10-2010
LANDED..........
05-10-2010
peimum said:
If we had known it would take 2 years, he would not have been included at all.... he has no desire to be here... I sure hope they can just take him off.... hubby needs to be here for his daughters, the ones that want him in their lives!
You didn't have the choice not to include him. It was mandatory that he be included in the application (all dependents MUST be listed). Otherwise your husband would have been committing misrepresentation (lying in his application) and would have faced a 5 year ban from Canada.
 

peimum

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Mar 23, 2014
64
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124
Summerside
Category........
Visa Office......
Mississauga
Job Offer........
Pre-Assessed..
App. Filed.......
October 2013
Med's Done....
Sent with application, again on 08-01-2016
LANDED..........
16-02-2016
that's dumb... this is just another way for the government to get more money........ ugh.
 

scylla

VIP Member
Jun 8, 2010
95,881
22,134
Toronto
Category........
Visa Office......
Buffalo
Job Offer........
Pre-Assessed..
App. Filed.......
28-05-2010
AOR Received.
19-08-2010
File Transfer...
28-06-2010
Passport Req..
01-10-2010
VISA ISSUED...
05-10-2010
LANDED..........
05-10-2010
peimum said:
that's dumb... this is just another way for the government to get more money........ ugh.
No - it has nothing to do with that. CIC wants to ensure that dependents aren't excluded as family members and can be sponsored in the future. This requirement is there to help families stay together and protect children's futures. It's not a money grab.
 

screech339

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Apr 2, 2013
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552
Category........
Visa Office......
Vegreville
Job Offer........
Pre-Assessed..
App. Filed.......
14-08-2012
AOR Received.
20-11-2012
Med's Done....
18-07-2012
Interview........
17-06-2013
LANDED..........
17-06-2013
peimum said:
that's dumb... this is just another way for the government to get more money........ ugh.
As Scylla said, money has nothing to do with it. The total amount of fee remains the same regardless of how many non- accompanying dependents are listed on the application.
 

dreematt

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May 24, 2015
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Visa Office......
CIC Mississauga
Job Offer........
Pre-Assessed..
AOR Received.
March 17, 2015
Med's Done....
Jan 2015 (Up Front)
If I put non accompanying on my dependent can is still sponsor him in the future? I declared him as my dependent I just didn't put him as will accompany me to Canada at least not yet.
 

canuck_in_uk

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May 4, 2012
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London
App. Filed.......
06/12
dreematt said:
If I put non accompanying on my dependent can is still sponsor him in the future? I declared him as my dependent I just didn't put him as will accompany me to Canada at least not yet.
Provided he is included in the app and has his medical, yes, you will will able to sponsor him in future.
 

screech339

VIP Member
Apr 2, 2013
7,887
552
Category........
Visa Office......
Vegreville
Job Offer........
Pre-Assessed..
App. Filed.......
14-08-2012
AOR Received.
20-11-2012
Med's Done....
18-07-2012
Interview........
17-06-2013
LANDED..........
17-06-2013
dreematt said:
If I put non accompanying on my dependent can is still sponsor him in the future? I declared him as my dependent I just didn't put him as will accompany me to Canada at least not yet.
And to add to canuck, you can sponsor your dependent in the future before he/she turns 19. Once your dependent turns 19, he/she is no longer your dependent, thus not qualified to be sponsored by you.