NOC 4131 "In Process with Date" New Delhi Visa office lets connect here

[indian143]

My bring forward date is tomorrow and I know nothing will happen so not enjoying this,

One thing to notice is that ...in the last two Caips notes The Line which shows our B'fd date looks like

Paper file sent to PA ( put away, storage place for paper files) , File B'Fd to XXX on ---------2011

But Now its like : Paper file sent to MPR , File B'Fd to M1G on 22 May 2012

Now what is the meaning of MPR surely not visa officers name code, is it any department, or place what is this?

One more thing there is no line to request ECU for MR or PPT ( I wonder WHY), just B'fd date is there and pending MR—PPT-- RPRF written only
Seniors plz comment on this situation

well "file sent to MPR" may be send for Medical and Passport Request

 

[raju9211]

April 17, 2012, Minister Kenney announced two additional changes that will help transform Canada's immigration system. One proposed change would help CIC ensure FSW applicants meet current labour market needs. It would allow new rules set out in Ministerial Instructions to apply to people who have already submitted an application. For example, instructions could place a priority on a specific occupation, such as doctors, and have existing applications from doctors processed first, regardless of where they are in the queue.

A similar change would allow new regulations, once approved, to apply retrospectively to people who have already submitted an application. These changes would help ensure that immigrants are chosen based on Canada's current needs and priorities.

http://www.cic.gc.ca/english/department/media/releases/2012/2012-04-17.asp


Now category wise queue is a new queue system. In which category in demand will process first. I find out why they send letter to pre-june 2010 for wait 1 year, 2 year etc. There are lot of applicant in pre-june 2010 according to VO letter 144000 applicants did not receive any final decision. For example NOC 4131 status in Canadian Occupational Projection System graph.
http://www23.hrsdc.gc.ca/occupationsummarydetail.jsp?&tid=57
Projection of Cumulative Job Openings and Job Seekers over the Period of 2011-2020
Level Share
Expansion Demand: 10,922 21%
Retirements: 34,444 68%
Other Replacement Demand: 4,104 8%
Emigration: 1,505 3%
Projected Job Openings: 50,975 100%

Level Share
School Leavers: 21,802 64%
Immigration: 5,406 16%
Net Mobility 6,789 20%
Projected Job Seekers: 33,997 100%
They are selecting 5406(16% share in projected job seekers) applicants in next 9 years from NOC 4131.
Per year projection is 600 applicants and this is near about cap 500 of applications. The another thing which impact on immigration system is visa quota per year. So overall if they create new category wise queue system and priority first in first out and if this new rule apply on pre-june 2010.
New rule benefit is pre-june 2010 case process first then new case in same category. Loss is that there are lot of applicants so wait is long. So there are no chance to add old NOC under process in new 2012 list on 5 july. One another thing visa quota can give advantage to pre-june 2010.
Visa quota this year is 57000. So if this quota can not achieve from priority applicants then this may be achieve from pre-june 2010 applicants. This is the reason why they are not processing fast pre-june 2010 application.
Formule for estimate time according to new proposed rule :- How much time will take to process an application?
Start Queue Index + Applicant Queue Index / 500(Cap on Category) = Years

Hope they will process our application soon.

I suggest below formula for new list NOC only.
Formule for estimate time according to new proposed rule :- How much time will take to process an application?
Start Queue Index + Applicant Queue Index / 500(Cap on Category) = Years

If noc 4131 or another will add in list 2012 then it take benefits otherwise new formula for pre-june 2010 is ...
Start Queue Index + Applicant Queue Index / x(Cap on Category) = Years
Where x = total year Quota - total 2012 reserve applicants Quota / total OLD NOC in process

The Value of x increase if Total Yearly visa quota increase or Cap of new demanded category decrease. I am not sure what will be the value x but this is sure x = 600 per year for next 9 years otherwise Canada economy face loss in labour market.

Q. Why does VO write in CSQ letter "However, the issuance of further instructions, including medical instructions, and the finalization of the application may not occur until later in 2012, or after 2012."?

Ans. Assume 4131 pending applicants = 20000
Projection for next 9 years = 5406
Per Year Allowed = x = 600
Years for process all applicant = 5406/600 = 9 Years
Backlog = 20000 - 5406 = 14594

If they have plan like this then they should return all the balance application now otherwise they should give the visa all pre-june 2010 applicants in this year before the new applicants.

 

[raju9211]

HI raju9211,

Can you please put some light that what is the scenario for 1111 NOC.
Click the below link for the details of the same.

http://www23.hrsdc.gc.ca/occupationsummarydetail.jsp?&tid=18

What are chances for 1111 NOC in july-2012 list from your point f view.


Thanks
regards,
Navneetk

April 17, 2012, Minister Kenney announced two additional changes that will help transform Canada's immigration system. One proposed change would help CIC ensure FSW applicants meet current labour market needs. It would allow new rules set out in Ministerial Instructions to apply to people who have already submitted an application. For example, instructions could place a priority on a specific occupation, such as doctors, and have existing applications from doctors processed first, regardless of where they are in the queue.

A similar change would allow new regulations, once approved, to apply retrospectively to people who have already submitted an application. These changes would help ensure that immigrants are chosen based on Canada's current needs and priorities.

http://www.cic.gc.ca/english/department/media/releases/2012/2012-04-17.asp


Now category wise queue is a new queue system. In which category in demand will process first. I find out why they send letter to pre-june 2010 for wait 1 year, 2 year etc. There are lot of applicant in pre-june 2010 according to VO letter 144000 applicants did not receive any final decision. For example NOC 4131 status in Canadian Occupational Projection System graph.
http://www23.hrsdc.gc.ca/occupationsummarydetail.jsp?&tid=57
Projection of Cumulative Job Openings and Job Seekers over the Period of 2011-2020
Level Share
Expansion Demand: 10,922 21%
Retirements: 34,444 68%
Other Replacement Demand: 4,104 8%
Emigration: 1,505 3%
Projected Job Openings: 50,975 100%

Level Share
School Leavers: 21,802 64%
Immigration: 5,406 16%
Net Mobility 6,789 20%
Projected Job Seekers: 33,997 100%
They are selecting 5406(16% share in projected job seekers) applicants in next 9 years from NOC 4131.
Per year projection is 600 applicants and this is near about cap 500 of applications. The another thing which impact on immigration system is visa quota per year. So overall if they create new category wise queue system and priority first in first out and if this new rule apply on pre-june 2010.
New rule benefit is pre-june 2010 case process first then new case in same category. Loss is that there are lot of applicants so wait is long. So there are no chance to add old NOC under process in new 2012 list on 5 july. One another thing visa quota can give advantage to pre-june 2010.
Visa quota this year is 57000. So if this quota can not achieve from priority applicants then this may be achieve from pre-june 2010 applicants. This is the reason why they are not processing fast pre-june 2010 application.
Formule for estimate time according to new proposed rule :- How much time will take to process an application?
Start Queue Index + Applicant Queue Index / 500(Cap on Category) = Years

Hope they will process our application soon.

I think very good scope of 1111. They have planed 21710 immigrant in next 9 years. But i don't know what they can vary cap on basis of category or not. If not this category will also suffer cause of law.

 

[raju9211]

i have 2 file numbers..but dont have letter sent line in my ecas

Anybody here in forum whose ecase shows like below..
We received your application for permanent residence on February **, 2010.
We reviewed your application and sent you a letter on March **, 2010. Please consider delays in mail delivery before contacting us.
Your application and supporting documents were received by the New Delhi office. They are pending review.
We transferred your application to the New Delhi office on March **, 2010. The New Delhi office may contact you.
We reviewed your application and sent you a letter on Jan **, 2012. Please consider delays in mail delivery before contacting us.
Your application was reviewed and we started processing on Jan **, 2012.

I think no one. if yes can you explain me which file number can be use for full detail like above.

 

[bnmehta]

Anybody here in forum whose ecase shows like below..
We received your application for permanent residence on February **, 2010.
We reviewed your application and sent you a letter on March **, 2010. Please consider delays in mail delivery before contacting us.
Your application and supporting documents were received by the New Delhi office. They are pending review.
We transferred your application to the New Delhi office on March **, 2010. The New Delhi office may contact you.
We reviewed your application and sent you a letter on Jan **, 2012. Please consider delays in mail delivery before contacting us.
Your application was reviewed and we started processing on Jan **, 2012.

I think no one. if yes can you explain me which file number can be use for full detail like above.

My status is same as yours.........months and years too.

 

[raju9211]

My status is same as yours.........months and years too.

This is an example ecas which shows complete details. Do your ecase show all details? My ecase shows only few lines with second file number ..
We received your application for permanent residence on February **, 2010.
We reviewed your application and sent you a letter on Jan **, 2012. Please consider delays in mail delivery before contacting us.
Your application was reviewed and we started processing on Jan **, 2012.

In my ecase do not show file transfer Date.

 

[Manonthemove]

This is what my E-cas shows

We received your application for permanent residence on March XX, 2010.

We reviewed your application and sent you a letter on XX, 2010. Please consider delays in mail delivery before contacting us.

Your application and supporting documents were received by the New Delhi office. They are pending review.

We transferred your application to the New Delhi office on June XX, 2010. The New Delhi office may contact you.

Your application was reviewed and we started processing on January XX, 2012.

Not sure when will NDVO start sending the MR's

 

[kcrajan23]

Hi frens n Seniors
i m in quite difficulty bcoz the college in which i m teaching now is going to change the name and the place. i had made my experience letter from this college and my mailing address which i had mentioned in the form is the name of this college. furthermore, i m planning to sift to another college bcoz of unsuitable time and location of this college.plz suggest me the better options in which way do i need to inform the visa office.

 

[sandy_dakore]

sandy_dakore i/p date from 15-May-2012 4131


one of my friend get verification call few hours ago. the call to employer as well as employee too. asked job verification of job with subordinates to both.

 

[Manonthemove]

sandy_dakore i/p date from 15-May-2012 4131


one of my friend get verification call few hours ago. the call to employer as well as employee too. asked job verification of job with subordinates to both.

Please share some more details like When did your friend's case move to "In Process"

 

[bnmehta]

This is an example ecas which shows complete details. Do your ecase show all details? My ecase shows only few lines with second file number ..
We received your application for permanent residence on February **, 2010.
We reviewed your application and sent you a letter on Jan **, 2012. Please consider delays in mail delivery before contacting us.
Your application was reviewed and we started processing on Jan **, 2012.

In my ecase do not show file transfer Date.

We received your application for permanent residence on February XX, 2010.

We reviewed your application and sent you a letter on March XX, 2010. Please consider delays in mail delivery before contacting us.

Your application and supporting documents were received by the New Delhi office. They are pending review.

We transferred your application to the New Delhi office on March XX, 2010. The New Delhi office may contact you.

Your application was reviewed and we started processing on January XX, 2012.

 

[bnmehta]

sandy_dakore i/p date from 15-May-2012 4131


one of my friend get verification call few hours ago. the call to employer as well as employee too. asked job verification of job with subordinates to both.

Can u provide some more details of status change dates.

 

[Manonthemove]

Another tuesday goneby any GOOD news from NDVO?

 

[Sujaselvaraj]

Hi All,

Starting a new thread for applicants under NOC 4131 "In Process with Date" New Delhi Visa office, lets connect here and share updates

My in process date is 9 February 2012
Till now no communication from NDVO.

 

[minhas82]

My in process date is 9 February 2012
Till now no communication from NDVO.

When did you send your initial application to CIO Sydney?