NOC 0213 - IT PROJECT MANAGER

[nitin15in]

Any body who's working in this catagory can provide details about Job Prospect and current market situation of IT in canada.

 

[spprivate]

No offense meant,but i read in this thread one person applied for 0213 category with 4 years of experience as .net developer.How far did you succeed.Because if you read the 0213 responsibilities it clearly says you should be in a senior position making decisions in terms of budget and IS.How would you expect the VO to believe that your company let a 4 year exp developer to play a manager role.just curious.

 

[Tegnus]

No offense meant,but i read in this thread one person applied for 0213 category with 4 years of experience as .net developer.How far did you succeed.Because if you read the 0213 responsibilities it clearly says you should be in a senior position making decisions in terms of budget and IS.How would you expect the VO to believe that your company let a 4 year exp developer to play a manager role.just curious.

It depends. Your role can be .net developer but in smaller companies you could be manager of team and be responsible for certain things like budget etc.

I guess....

 

[canada via USA]

Tegnus -
Those are the exceptions, no small ,mid or big company hand out the budgeting or planning of the complete project to a person who is actually working as developer..
only exception would be if some one from good B-school with 2-4 yrs of exp, and thats too you won't find such cases in IT

In north america region , the project managers are of with 15 yrs exp atleast and thats why the VO looks very carefully when they evaluate any one claiming a IT manager.

In india, I know people working in TCS or Infosys with 6-8 yrs exp are PM ( with designation, they may not be doing the actual work of PM as mentioned in CIC website for NOC 0213)

Getting a PM job after landing is rare.. very rare. I know around 10 people who came under 'NOC 0213' category but working as tester/java developer/support project ( Its not they are not capable, its just they don't fit the bill here) - Don't know why not CIC include software prog /tester category instead..

 

[malu08]

Don't know why not CIC include software prog /tester category instead..

Because this is their way to filter applications and people . Once they will allow software prog /tester to apply for PR visa there would be huge rush of people and certainly that would be the last thing they would be looking for.

 

[dodan]

good thread. bumping up.

 

[JigJig]

It depends. Your role can be .net developer but in smaller companies you could be manager of team and be responsible for certain things like budget etc.

I guess....

The term IT Manager is very broad. I wonder who and how they evaluate the person based on their expertise. I think someone with the same field and experience should.. same goes for every noc.

 

[CAPR]

That's pretty much true.

Tegnus -
Those are the exceptions, no small ,mid or big company hand out the budgeting or planning of the complete project to a person who is actually working as developer..
only exception would be if some one from good B-school with 2-4 yrs of exp, and thats too you won't find such cases in IT

In north america region , the project managers are of with 15 yrs exp atleast and thats why the VO looks very carefully when they evaluate any one claiming a IT manager.

In india, I know people working in TCS or Infosys with 6-8 yrs exp are PM ( with designation, they may not be doing the actual work of PM as mentioned in CIC website for NOC 0213)

Getting a PM job after landing is rare.. very rare. I know around 10 people who came under 'NOC 0213' category but working as tester/java developer/support project ( Its not they are not capable, its just they don't fit the bill here) - Don't know why not CIC include software prog /tester category instead..

 

[BHASKARA777]

Does any one let me know how is the market for Mainframe programmer in Canada.

 

[Candreamz]

Hi Guys,

If you want to know about the IT job market in Canada. In my point of view http://www.linkedin.com/. you can become a member of this form. i am getting good knowledge from this website.


I am under the same NOC and already got my landing papers.

Thanks
Candreamz

 

[clubcanada]

interesting topic.
I guess the major problem is that it's quite difficult for someone who has no experience in IT to determine NOC0213 as the description is way to broad. FOr this reasons, sometimes people with 5-7 years work experience get approved while sometime people with the same background get refused. This is more than confusing...
It's not just about the job title and the duties. The working environment and the company size have a tremendous impact as well. I kind of get the feeling that the duty list as of NPC0213 works mainly for people in smaller companies with a quite broad but no deep level of responsibilities. A PM in a small company has different responsibilities than a PM in a large company. People working in smaller companies tend to have more responsibilities (including budget, people management, etc.) but it isn't the same as working in large global organizations. A PM in a large organization might not have direct budget responsibilities because the responsibilities for large-scale project is in many cases at senior executive level (so is also people management, etc.) as it easily exceeds $5m -$50M...

I have a friend who became country manager UK right after graduation. His duties were pretty much covering all of what's stated in NOC0213: budget responsibility, client focusing activities, hiring/firing people. However, the company consisted of 10 people (including 5 students)...

 

[Candreamz]

Hi,

I do agree with Club Canada,

In total my work experience is of 6 years and i am doing all the above Job duties as i am working in a medium size firm.

Thanks
Candreamz

 

[nsukan]

At last I got the PP with the Maple Leaf on 4th March, 2011.
This is a good feeling and Thank every one in the forum for the wishes and advices & silent watching .

nsukan

( I was not in station for more than a week for a business trip and I could not access internet, Please excuse me for that)
Note: for timelines please refer to our thread...
http://www.canadavisa.com/canada-immigration-discussion-board/new-delhi-passport-tracking-thread-t55910.1110.html;new

 

[chouhans]

Hi Guys, I have applied from Dubai, currently the eCAS status shows "RBVO", waiting for this to convert into "In Progress"... Anxiously.

I have received my second AOR on 23rd June 2010... Applied under 0213 category.

Let's hope for the best.

Chouhan

 

[jnathan]

just following this thread.