Nigerians that have applied for Federal Skilled Workers 2013 program

[fatenny]

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author=PORPHRY
link=topic=160551.msg2996920#msg2996920 date=1395636988]
Ok, but on her own declaration form,apart from other details will she
fill in my name as the principal applicant or just her own name and
family details?
[/quote] Sorry for the late response! She's to fill her name and
not yours. At the top of the form,there's a portion to indicate whether
the information
filled is for the applicant or spouse, remember to tick that portion.

 

[nanonye]

Hello guys. I have a little concern after making a little analysis on the inventory Accra has so just wanna share to see if my understanding is correct or flawed.

I looked through this page which shows the Operational Targets for all the visa offices: http://www.cic.gc.ca/english/department/ips/economic.asp

There, i saw that Accra has a Skilled Worker quota of 1400 for this year 2014.

Now, i also read this page that explains the Operational Targets: http://www.cic.gc.ca/english/department/ips/

This is an excerpt from the page: "Operational targets are the number of applications (in persons) that must be finalized by processing offices in order to have admissions fall within the range set in the immigration plan. Operational targets are based on the total number of persons covered by applications to be finalized, including both positive and negative decisions as well as withdrawals".

This clearly shows that the Operational Target of 1400 does not refer to 1400 applications (Cases) but 1400 Persons. Eg, an application that includes a man, his wife and 3 children will take up 5 spaces from the Operational Target of 1400.

I also looked at the FSW Inventory as at October 2013 through this Microsoft Excel document: http://data.gc.ca/data/en/dataset/b6f7c54e-ef4b-4ec1-8dde-7315e97d18eb.

If you download the document and sort the document to Skilled Worker Cases (SW Cases) you will see that Accra has just 446 Cases (of applications) yet to be finalized as at October 2013. Then if you sort the document to Skilled Worker Persons (SW Persons), you will see that there are 1631 Persons left. This i believe means that the 446 cases have 1631 people in the applications.

Now my point is this. If Accra has an Operational Target of 1400 for this year and the pending SW Persons is 1631, then it should mean that all the pending cases will take up this years Visa allocation and there will still be a spill over of over 200 applications that will be considered in the 2015 Operational Target before they get to our FSW 2013 applications.

This will be right if they strictly work using the FIFO format. This calculation may be very wrong though because Visa Offices have different ways they prioritize applications for processing. Eg, it can be clearly seen in New Delhi that a backlog of 9487 SW Persons exists but although an Operational Target of 8100 has been set for 2014, very many FSW 13 applicants have been receiving MR's, DM's and Visas

I hope we are given some form of priority processing since our Occupations are currently most in demand. It will be detrimental to the Canadian economy if we spend soo much time away from Canada due to slow processing when the economy needs our skills presently.
Its also possible they share the 1400 quota to pending and current applications in a ratio that is determined by them. Eg, FSW takes 600 SW Persons while the remaining 800 SW Persons are reserved for the backlogs.

I dont think Accra FSW 13 applications (Cases) will be over 300 (my opinion) so they really should get cracking.

Sorry this may have been too long. Thoughts.

 

[GENTLEANDREW]

Hello guys. I have a little concern after making a little analysis on the inventory Accra has so just wanna share to see if my understanding is correct or flawed.

I looked through this page which shows the Operational Targets for all the visa offices: http://www.cic.gc.ca/english/department/ips/economic.asp

There, i saw that Accra has a Skilled Worker quota of 1400 for this year 2014.

Now, i also read this page that explains the Operational Targets: http://www.cic.gc.ca/english/department/ips/

This is an excerpt from the page: "Operational targets are the number of applications (in persons) that must be finalized by processing offices in order to have admissions fall within the range set in the immigration plan. Operational targets are based on the total number of persons covered by applications to be finalized, including both positive and negative decisions as well as withdrawals".

This clearly shows that the Operational Target of 1400 does not refer to 1400 applications (Cases) but 1400 Persons. Eg, an application that includes a man, his wife and 3 children will take up 5 spaces from the Operational Target of 1400.

I also looked at the FSW Inventory as at October 2013 through this Microsoft Excel document: http://data.gc.ca/data/en/dataset/b6f7c54e-ef4b-4ec1-8dde-7315e97d18eb.

If you download the document and sort the document to Skilled Worker Cases (SW Cases) you will see that Accra has just 446 Cases (of applications) yet to be finalized as at October 2013. Then if you sort the document to Skilled Worker Persons (SW Persons), you will see that there are 1631 Persons left. This i believe means that the 446 cases have 1631 people in the applications.

Now my point is this. If Accra has an Operational Target of 1400 for this year and the pending SW Persons is 1631, then it should mean that all the pending cases will take up this years Visa allocation and there will still be a spill over of over 200 applications that will be considered in the 2015 Operational Target before they get to our FSW 2013 applications.

This will be right if they strictly work using the FIFO format. This calculation may be very wrong though because Visa Offices have different ways they prioritize applications for processing. Eg, it can be clearly seen in New Delhi that a backlog of 9487 SW Persons exists but although an Operational Target of 8100 has been set for 2014, very many FSW 13 applicants have been receiving MR's, DM's and Visas

I hope we are given some form of priority processing since our Occupations are currently most in demand. It will be detrimental to the Canadian economy if we spend soo much time away from Canada due to slow processing when the economy needs our skills presently.
Its also possible they share the 1400 quota to pending and current applications in a ratio that is determined by them. Eg, FSW takes 600 SW Persons while the remaining 800 SW Persons are reserved for the backlogs.

I dont think Accra FSW 13 applications (Cases) will be over 300 (my opinion) so they really should get cracking.

Sorry this may have been too long. Thoughts.

Your analysis is quite rich.It is likely that things will run till next year as per receiving MR and visas.

 

[much_mann]

@nanonye
+1 for you

That was quite a thoughtful post and thanks for sharing. If I may add looking at what the operational targets is meant to be from your excerpt "Operational targets are the number of applications (in persons) that must be finalized by processing offices" The key word here is "must be finalized".

1) Notice also that include the FSW 13 (which is covered under MI-8, but the data heading for the inventory states MI-3+, read that to mean MI-3 and above)
2) Reviewing the October 8 2013 inventory, you will notice some case has been finalized and only 322 cases (or 1,133persons) are pending or yet to be finalized
3) They also know some people maybe issued visa and will not use them or some will choose to use them in 2015
4) However, their expectation is that in 2014; a total of 1,400persons will arrive canada as a FSW through the Accra VO - either with AEO, FSTC,Phd etc
5) Note that 124 cases used up only 498 visas (persons), that is an average of 4visas per case. I acknowldege you will have some large fimily of up to 6 or more and some cases are just the PA & spouse
6) Assuming the 1,400 is to cover as far back as when the inventory was done in October last year, they will still have at least 350cases they can dispatch and the pending cases as at that date is 322 (yet to be finalized)
7) From where are stand, I don't think the odds are that bad, we only need to pray that AVO will work quick and hard to ensure they truly issue 1,400visa as from what I understand, if a particular VO is not using up their quota, as they move towards year end and during regular review, they may assigned their unused quotas to other fast moving VO as to enable the federal target for that year be met and enable the economy has enough skilled manpower to keep it growing or moving forward

Hello guys. I have a little concern after making a little analysis on the inventory Accra has so just wanna share to see if my understanding is correct or flawed.

I looked through this page which shows the Operational Targets for all the visa offices: http://www.cic.gc.ca/english/department/ips/economic.asp

There, i saw that Accra has a Skilled Worker quota of 1400 for this year 2014.

Now, i also read this page that explains the Operational Targets: http://www.cic.gc.ca/english/department/ips/

This is an excerpt from the page: "Operational targets are the number of applications (in persons) that must be finalized by processing offices in order to have admissions fall within the range set in the immigration plan. Operational targets are based on the total number of persons covered by applications to be finalized, including both positive and negative decisions as well as withdrawals".

This clearly shows that the Operational Target of 1400 does not refer to 1400 applications (Cases) but 1400 Persons. Eg, an application that includes a man, his wife and 3 children will take up 5 spaces from the Operational Target of 1400.

I also looked at the FSW Inventory as at October 2013 through this Microsoft Excel document: http://data.gc.ca/data/en/dataset/b6f7c54e-ef4b-4ec1-8dde-7315e97d18eb.

If you download the document and sort the document to Skilled Worker Cases (SW Cases) you will see that Accra has just 446 Cases (of applications) yet to be finalized as at October 2013. Then if you sort the document to Skilled Worker Persons (SW Persons), you will see that there are 1631 Persons left. This i believe means that the 446 cases have 1631 people in the applications.

Now my point is this. If Accra has an Operational Target of 1400 for this year and the pending SW Persons is 1631, then it should mean that all the pending cases will take up this years Visa allocation and there will still be a spill over of over 200 applications that will be considered in the 2015 Operational Target before they get to our FSW 2013 applications.

This will be right if they strictly work using the FIFO format. This calculation may be very wrong though because Visa Offices have different ways they prioritize applications for processing. Eg, it can be clearly seen in New Delhi that a backlog of 9487 SW Persons exists but although an Operational Target of 8100 has been set for 2014, very many FSW 13 applicants have been receiving MR's, DM's and Visas

I hope we are given some form of priority processing since our Occupations are currently most in demand. It will be detrimental to the Canadian economy if we spend soo much time away from Canada due to slow processing when the economy needs our skills presently.
Its also possible they share the 1400 quota to pending and current applications in a ratio that is determined by them. Eg, FSW takes 600 SW Persons while the remaining 800 SW Persons are reserved for the backlogs.

I dont think Accra FSW 13 applications (Cases) will be over 300 (my opinion) so they really should get cracking.

Sorry this may have been too long. Thoughts.

 

[tinnyfrontier]

Nice to see this, brothers and sisters kudos to you guys!

Newbie here, to start with. I submitted my first application in June 2013, it was returned cos they could not debit my card, so i re-packaged and sent another in December 2013, my card was debited in late January 2014 but the worrying part is i have not gotten the PER mail yet, my agent said its normal on some cases but i get worried by the thought, though a mail has been sent to cic on this but no response still, mailed about 19days ago. I hope you guys can put me in a place with all the experience. Thank you house!

 

[thebaft]

Nice to see this, brothers and sisters kudos to you guys!

Newbie here, to start with. I submitted my first application in June 2013, it was returned cos they could not debit my card, so i re-packaged and sent another in December 2013, my card was debited in late January 2014 but the worrying part is i have not gotten the PER mail yet, my agent said its normal on some cases but i get worried by the thought, though a mail has been sent to cic on this but no response still, mailed about 19days ago. I hope you guys can put me in a place with all the experience. Thank you house!

Congratulations ... Welcome to our band of merry patient men!!!

 

[phunrae]

Welldone Nanonye and much_mann, Good analysis you have taken your time to share, God bless you guyz

Pls clarification needed on if this quota includes 2013 applications or we do we need to stat to condition our minds for 2015? I ask cos manyimportant decisions are based on this.





quote author=much_mann link=topic=160551.msg3008123#msg3008123 date=1395950308]
@ nanonye
+1 for you

That was quite a thoughtful post and thanks for sharing. If I may add looking at what the operational targets is meant to be from your excerpt "Operational targets are the number of applications (in persons) that must be finalized by processing offices" The key word here is "must be finalized".

1) Notice also that include the FSW 13 (which is covered under MI-8, but the data heading for the inventory states MI-3+, read that to mean MI-3 and above)
2) Reviewing the October 8 2013 inventory, you will notice some case has been finalized and only 322 cases (or 1,133persons) are pending or yet to be finalized
3) They also know some people maybe issued visa and will not use them or some will choose to use them in 2015
4) However, their expectation is that in 2014; a total of 1,400persons will arrive canada as a FSW through the Accra VO - either with AEO, FSTC,Phd etc
5) Note that 124 cases used up only 498 visas (persons), that is an average of 4visas per case. I acknowldege you will have some large fimily of up to 6 or more and some cases are just the PA & spouse
6) Assuming the 1,400 is to cover as far back as when the inventory was done in October last year, they will still have at least 350cases they can dispatch and the pending cases as at that date is 322 (yet to be finalized)
7) From where are stand, I don't think the odds are that bad, we only need to pray that AVO will work quick and hard to ensure they truly issue 1,400visa as from what I understand, if a particular VO is not using up their quota, as they move towards year end and during regular review, they may assigned their unused quotas to other fast moving VO as to enable the federal target for that year be met and enable the economy has enough skilled manpower to keep it growing or moving forward


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[much_mann]

The quota includes the FSW 2013 which is covered under MI-8

Welldone Nanonye and much_mann, Good analysis you have taken your time to share, God bless you guyz

Pls clarification needed on if this quota includes 2013 applications or we do we need to stat to condition our minds for 2015? I ask cos manyimportant decisions are based on this.





quote author=much_mann link=topic=160551.msg3008123#msg3008123 date=1395950308]
@ nanonye
+1 for you

That was quite a thoughtful post and thanks for sharing. If I may add looking at what the operational targets is meant to be from your excerpt "Operational targets are the number of applications (in persons) that must be finalized by processing offices" The key word here is "must be finalized".

1) Notice also that include the FSW 13 (which is covered under MI-8, but the data heading for the inventory states MI-3+, read that to mean MI-3 and above)
2) Reviewing the October 8 2013 inventory, you will notice some case has been finalized and only 322 cases (or 1,133persons) are pending or yet to be finalized
3) They also know some people maybe issued visa and will not use them or some will choose to use them in 2015
4) However, their expectation is that in 2014; a total of 1,400persons will arrive canada as a FSW through the Accra VO - either with AEO, FSTC,Phd etc
5) Note that 124 cases used up only 498 visas (persons), that is an average of 4visas per case. I acknowldege you will have some large fimily of up to 6 or more and some cases are just the PA & spouse
6) Assuming the 1,400 is to cover as far back as when the inventory was done in October last year, they will still have at least 350cases they can dispatch and the pending cases as at that date is 322 (yet to be finalized)
7) From where are stand, I don't think the odds are that bad, we only need to pray that AVO will work quick and hard to ensure they truly issue 1,400visa as from what I understand, if a particular VO is not using up their quota, as they move towards year end and during regular review, they may assigned their unused quotas to other fast moving VO as to enable the federal target for that year be met and enable the economy has enough skilled manpower to keep it growing or moving forward

 

[phunrae]

Ok tanks, no say my quesiont too much o

Now dat some 2011 re just gettin their visa, we can therefore infer that they also are part of this quota plus 2012 applicants too before they stat with 2013, and except 2012 applicants are not so much some 2013 applicants might have to wait till 2015, right?

The quota includes the FSW 2013 which is covered under MI-8

 

[much_mann]

You are right with the fact that the quota covers all the inventory from 2011 to date.

As to if some 2013 applicant will not spill over to 2015 quota, well it depends. I may not be able to give a definite answer to that as it depends on a number of variable like @nanonye stated. If they are going on FIFO or anyother requirement.

However I want to firmly believe that the whole aim of the overhaul is as stated by the former minister is to get to "just in time" immigration where they can complete the whole process in under twelve months. Which is the reason they are also planning to move to EOI, where you maybe in the pool for a while after expressing interest to migrate, but from the time you are invited to apply to completion, they hope to have it wrapped up in months instead of years.

Delays could also be due to inablity for applicants to produce required documents upon demand or such things like remedial medical, background checks, travel history etc. I think, once Accra start moving and if all the other forumites update their status as they get them, we can notice the trend ans see where it goes from there.

Ok tanks, no say my quesiont too much o

Now dat some 2011 re just gettin their visa, we can therefore infer that they also are part of this quota plus 2012 applicants too before they stat with 2013, and except 2012 applicants are not so much some 2013 applicants might have to wait till 2015, right?

 

[much_mann]

FYI for guys wanting or needing to pay Right of Permanent Resident Fee - Paying from Outside Canada

You can pay online using the following link with your bank issued VISA or MASTER cards, no need trying to get draft and all the rest

https://eservices.cic.gc.ca/epay/disclaimer.do

 

[nanonye]

Much Mann you are correct. The inventory also includes FSW 13 applications since it says MI3+ but that's FSW 13 applications that they had received as at October 8 last year.

Phunrae, all pending inventory is eligible for the 1400 target for 2014 and thats including all pre Fsw13 applications. Also, I believe Accra must have settled some cases and issued Visas between October and December 2013 and Visas that were issued between that period would have been issued under their 2013 Operational Target and won't deplete the latest 1400 target for 2014. Obviously, they have also received additional FSW 13 cases since after October 13 so I think the total inventory as at today really won't be much different from what it was in October 13.

My concern now is how they calculate their operating year. Is it a straight January to December cycle or something else? I know I've read in one of the forums where someone said its a March to February cycle. I cant confirm this but if its March to February, it means all Visas issued up until February 2014 should fall under the 2013 Operational Target.

 

[hila01]

FYI for guys wanting or needing to pay Right of Permanent Resident Fee - Paying from Outside Canada

You can pay online using the following link with your bank issued VISA or MASTER cards, no need trying to get draft and all the rest

https://eservices.cic.gc.ca/epay/disclaimer.do

Thanks for the info but the instruction clearly from vo is usually to pay RPRF by obtaining bank draft. We can't act otherwise.

 

[nanonye]

We can pay online. I know someone that has done so. That instruction was made before CIC updated their payment services to accommodate online RPRF fees from outside Canada.

Thanks for the info but the instruction clearly from vo is usually to pay RPRF by obtaining bank draft. We can't act otherwise.

 

[9ja4dLord]

Much Mann you are correct. The inventory also includes FSW 13 applications since it says MI3+ but that's FSW 13 applications that they had received as at October 8 last year.

Phunrae, all pending inventory is eligible for the 1400 target for 2014 and thats including all pre Fsw13 applications. Also, I believe Accra must have settled some cases and issued Visas between October and December 2013 and Visas that were issued between that period would have been issued under their 2013 Operational Target and won't deplete the latest 1400 target for 2014. Obviously, they have also received additional FSW 13 cases since after October 13 so I think the total inventory as at today really won't be much different from what it was in October 13.

My concern now is how they calculate their operating year. Is it a straight January to December cycle or something else? I know I've read in one of the forums where someone said its a March to February cycle. I cant confirm this but if its March to February, it means all Visas issued up until February 2014 should fall under the 2013 Operational Target.

Their fiscal year runs from April to March