New Court Ruling: Expats to lose right to vote

[screech339]

Does it have to be 5 years of continuous non-residency? What if the expat returns for a short period to Canada (e.g., a one month vacation) in the middle?

Doesn't work like that. You have to reside in canada to vote. In other words, you have to stay at least 6 months to regain your right to vote.

 

[keesio]

Does it have to be 5 years of continuous non-residency? What if the expat returns for a short period to Canada (e.g., a one month vacation) in the middle?

I don't know for sure but I'm going to guess that if you declared yourself a non-resident for that year (for taxes), then any trips you made back for a short visit would not matter.

 

[on-hold]

Trudeau quote: "there's a level of admiration I actually have for China. Their basic DICTATORSHIP is actually allowing them to turn their economy around on a dime".

I would have expected this from a NDP leader since their ideology is closer to China's ideology. But this came from Trudeau of the liberal party, that represents "left of centre" ideology.

Now that's scary.

Well, it's scary if you think taking off-the-cuff, isolated remarks from politicians that have no relevance to governance or public policy is a real form of analysis. What's wrong with admiring the fact that over the past twenty years the CPC has pulled more people out of poverty than ever before in history? China is vitally important to Canada, do you expect Canadian politicians to slag and criticize it relentlessly?

And I don't see how the NDP's ideology can be compared to the ruling party of China, since the NDP believes in winning power through elections and surrendering it after losing elections.

 

[asaif]

Doesn't work like that. You have to reside in canada to vote. In other words, you have to stay at least 6 months to regain your right to vote.

Where is this 6 months threshold mentioned in the ruling? As I understand it, you are considered a "resident" for taxation purposes if you have ties to Canada (e.g., you own a house, you have a spouse or dependents in Canada, even if you have a Canadian credit card) . Will there be two sets of criteria for residency, one for taxation and another for voting?

 

[keesio]

Where is this 6 months threshold mentioned in the ruling? As I understand it, you are considered a "resident" for taxation purposes if you have ties to Canada (e.g., you own a house, you have a spouse or dependents in Canada, even if you have a Canadian credit card) . Will there be two sets of criteria for residency, one for taxation and another for voting?

I'm going to guess that if you are filing taxes as a tax resident, that would mean you are a resident... period. At least I would hope so. As I mentioned in one of my previous posts, I oppose expats losing the right to vote if they have been filing taxes.

 

[screech339]

Where is this 6 months threshold mentioned in the ruling? As I understand it, you are considered a "resident" for taxation purposes if you have ties to Canada (e.g., you own a house, you have a spouse or dependents in Canada, even if you have a Canadian credit card) . Will there be two sets of criteria for residency, one for taxation and another for voting?

If you left Canada longer than 6 months, you are suppose to declare yourself as non-resident for tax purposes. Coming back to Canada for 1 month doesnt make you become a resident of Canada for tax purposes.

 

[screech339]

Well, it's scary if you think taking off-the-cuff, isolated remarks from politicians that have no relevance to governance or public policy is a real form of analysis. What's wrong with admiring the fact that over the past twenty years the CPC has pulled more people out of poverty than ever before in history? China is vitally important to Canada, do you expect Canadian politicians to slag and criticize it relentlessly?

And I don't see how the NDP's ideology can be compared to the ruling party of China, since the NDP believes in winning power through elections and surrendering it after losing elections.

Off the cuff comments tends to show their true thoughts or true colours. So it is scary that trudeau actually admired DICTATORSHIP that everyone seems to claim harper to be and a country with among of the worst human rights records.

As for comparison of NDP to China: NDP policy believe in state ownership over private ownership. They want more government involvement in people's lives. Doesn't this ring closer to China's ideology?

 

[keesio]

If you left Canada longer than 6 months, you are suppose to declare yourself as non-resident for tax purposes. Coming back to Canada for 1 month doesn't make you become a resident of Canada for tax purposes.

But he is right about certain things will make CRA consider you a tax resident, regardless of how much time you were out of Canada. Owning a home is definitely one. If your spouse lives in Canada, that is another.

 

[on-hold]

Off the cuff comments tends to show their true thoughts or true colours. So it is scary that trudeau actually admired DICTATORSHIP that everyone seems to claim harper to be.

I'm trying to figure out how this is scary. Is it because . . .

. . . if the Liberals win the election, Trudeau will jail the politicians of other parties and rule forever as a dictator? That seems unlikely.

. . . Trudeau will build vast concrete cities on the Prairies and force the rural peasants to inhabit them? I find it hard to imagine that passing the Senate.

. . . Trudeau will offer subsidies and support to Green industries? I'm OK with that.

. . . Trudeau will violently suppress the radical separatists of Western Canada? As an Alberta resident I understand the impulse, but I'm suspicious of his determination to follow through.

. . . Trudeau will drape the Parliament in red (aha!) and stand in a vast hall of cheering Party aparatchiks as he announces a technical modification of the Canadian Tax Code? I guess I don't have an opinion on this.

I guess an off-the-cuff remark is more dire than Harper's five day tour of China, spent hugging pandas and praising the CPC's (Holy Moses, I just noticed the most astonishing coincidence!) economic program.

 

[screech339]

I guess an off-the-cuff remark is more dire than Harper's five day tour of China, spent hugging pandas and praising the CPC's (Holy Moses, I just noticed the most astonishing coincidence!) economic program.

And now look at where China is now. Their economy is tanking. Their stock market tanked like the stock market of the 30's. China got greedy.

Funny that since the state owns the market, they had to shoulder the burden of the crash. It goes to show that full state ownership still couldn't stop the crash either. Much like the laissez fraire approach to market. It couldn't stop the market crash of the 30's.

 

[screech339]

I'm trying to figure out how this is scary. Is it because . . .

. . . if the Liberals win the election, Trudeau will jail the politicians of other parties and rule forever as a dictator? That seems unlikely.

. . . Trudeau will build vast concrete cities on the Prairies and force the rural peasants to inhabit them? I find it hard to imagine that passing the Senate.

. . . Trudeau will offer subsidies and support to Green industries? I'm OK with that.

. . . Trudeau will violently suppress the radical separatists of Western Canada? As an Alberta resident I understand the impulse, but I'm suspicious of his determination to follow through.

. . . Trudeau will drape the Parliament in red (aha!) and stand in a vast hall of cheering Party aparatchiks as he announces a technical modification of the Canadian Tax Code? I guess I don't have an opinion on this.

I guess an off-the-cuff remark is more dire than Harper's five day tour of China, spent hugging pandas and praising the CPC's (Holy Moses, I just noticed the most astonishing coincidence!) economic program.

BTW: my comment was a shot at alphazip's "that's scary" post using a quote from harper. So I simply shot one back at him using trudeau's quote "that's scary".

The point of the post was to show how stupid it was to make a comment like that. I still havent seen Canada turned into a US version since harper came into play. Where's this "troops on the street" I was told by the liberals.

If there was a case whereby a leader can turn Canada into another country with a magic wand,- rather have Harper turn Canada into US than Trudeau turn it into China.

 

[screech339]

. . . Trudeau will offer subsidies and support to Green industries? I'm OK with that.

I guess you are not familiar with Ontario subsidies solar and wind energy green industries plan or you don't live in Ontario yourself at all.

Ever since the Liberal government started the green industry plan, cost of electricity skyrocketed. Places a huge burden on ontarians paying the bills and driving out industries out of ontario due to high electric cost of doing business to cheaper provinces or countries. Ontario is bleeding jobs over this. Ontario is now ranked top for most expensive cost of electricity in the world.

 

[on-hold]

Ok Ok, I'm just making fun of the idea of Trudeau is a Party leader . . . Of course the griping about troops on the streets or whatever about Harper is silly -- I think that by far the greatest objection to him (that I know of) is his introduction of US style campaignin/governing style; but the fate of that depends more on his successors than him.

By the way, I'm not sure that last quote is mine -- I don't remember writing it, though I've been on this forum long enough now, and aged sufficiently, that that is no longer definitive . . .

 

[screech339]

By the way, I'm not sure that last quote is mine -- I don't remember writing it, though I've been on this forum long enough now, and aged sufficiently, that that is no longer definitive . . .

Which quote are you referring to that you think is yours? I was referring to alphazip's "that's scary" quote.

 

[on-hold]

I guess you are not familiar with Ontario subsidies solar and wind energy green industries plan or you don't live in Ontario yourself at all.

Ever since the Liberal government started the green industry plan, cost of electricity skyrocketed. Places a huge burden on ontarians paying the bills and driving out industries out of ontario due to high electric cost of doing business to cheaper provinces or countries. Ontario is bleeding jobs over this. Ontario is now ranked top for most expensive cost of electricity in the world.

The one above -- when I saw it before, it must have mis-loaded, or been edited by you; it looked like what you wrote was attributed to me.