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Negative experience about immigration

joogle

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Please post any negative and unpleasant experience you've had during the immigration process and/or after landing. Things such as mistakes by CIC, CHC, unusual delays, problem when landing, finding job, accommodation, mistreatment and etc will count as these.

Note well: The purpose of this thread is to learn from those experiences and give readers both sides of the story (positive and negative).
 

canadaways

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Canadian Immigration Cruelty on Airport. They killed an immigrants and they even didn't bother theirselves to ask him what he wants and why he was crying etc, although he was a polish or russsian language speaker but that shouldn't a issue by requesting/calling a translator.

See the Video of victim ....

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9zWvhckJwv8
 
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ImmOfficer

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canadaways said:
Canadian Immigration Cruelty on Airport. They killed an immigrants and they even didn't bother theirselves to ask him what he wants and why he was crying etc, although he was a polish or russsian language speaker but that shouldn't a issue by requesting/calling a translator.

See the Video of victim ....

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9zWvhckJwv8
Educate yourself.
 

Tonsils Hockey

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One of my friends who went to Canada on a visit visa was denied entry cuz the immigration officer thought his shoes were dirty and he didn't get them polished before boarding the plane to Canada.
 

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ImmOfficer said:
canadaways said:
Canadian Immigration Cruelty on Airport. They killed an immigrants and they even didn't bother theirselves to ask him what he wants and why he was crying etc, although he was a polish or russsian language speaker but that shouldn't a issue by requesting/calling a translator.

See the Video of victim ....

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9zWvhckJwv8
Educate yourself.


Agreed...

Also that you need to pay atttention to other's voices regarding any complaint and need to find out " What the other One is complaining about ? " and try to find a rsolution for it. Isnt it so???

Is speaking Proper/ Writing Proper English more important than the Complaint???

Youare a very educated & Learned person so I expect a ganuine reply.

Hope it wouldhelp to resolve

Always Hopeful


Hopeful Canadian
 

Leon

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I thought it was the cops that killed the guy, not immigration?

I haven't really had any problems with immigration to speak of. I think my first PR card, they complained that in my picture, my head was either half a mm too small or big. I measured it and I couldn't see it but I had a new picture taken for them and they were happy. They also took 2 and a half years to process my citizenship but since I wasn't really in any hurry to get it, I never asked what was going on. I am pretty sure they just lost the file behind a cabinet or something and found it again like a year later.
 

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Leon said:
I thought it was the cops that killed the guy, not immigration?
That's what the youtube stream reveals anyway.:)

I haven't really had any problems with immigration to speak of. I think my first PR card, they complained that in my picture, my head was either half a mm too small or big. I measured it and I couldn't see it but I had a new picture taken for them and they were happy. They also took 2 and a half years to process my citizenship but since I wasn't really in any hurry to get it, I never asked what was going on. I am pretty sure they just lost the file behind a cabinet or something and found it again like a year later.

That can and does happen in a lot of countries. I am sure that happens with FSW PR Applications too.:)
 

Ankara_cafe

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Dear JOOGLE,
I've heard many horror stories of highly skilled and educated immigrants that were not able to find a job and had to work for McDonald's. There are many stories on the web of Indian and Asian Medicak Doctors who couldn't get their degrees accredited and had to take A LOT OF extra medical courses at Canadian Universities in order to get their qualifications accredited under Canadian Standarts. The same story also applies to engineers from Asian countries. They say the Indians who have degrees from regional universities in India usually have a hard time to get their qualifications accepted too.
And I mean, imagine, you apply for jobs in Canada, you can't expect the Canadian employer to know about your university and your country's education standards. No employer will have enough time to do research on that. However, there are private 'international education validation/accreditation' agencies, that interpret your credentials into Canadian standarts to make it easier for prospective employers to understand and assess your qualifications. But I still believe that it is difficult to compete with North American university graduates to compete for 'good jobs'.
Furthermore, there is something called 'Canadian Work Experience' in Canada. This means, that prospective employers will tell you "Sorry, but you have no work experience in Canada". In other words, they try to say that, you don't know enough about canadian work standarts, ethics, corporate culture and the working life/system there. To overlap this burden, you have to have at least some Canadian education or better Canadian Work Experience... and they say that the best way to gain experience is doing some voluntary work in local communities. Unfortunately, voluntary work isn't paid at all :)
Moreover, I've heard that employers don't like immigrant job applicants who have a strong accent in English. They claim that it doesn't fit into "the company image". But more or less, I can understand this stance, because employers in my country wouldn't hire anybody who wouldn't speak 'good turkish'. I don't think that this has something to do with racism or so...it just the ruthlessness of the business world.
Good luck to all
 

canadaways

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ImmOfficer said:
canadaways said:
Canadian Immigration Cruelty on Airport. They killed an immigrants and they even didn't bother theirselves to ask him what he wants and why he was crying etc, although he was a polish or russsian language speaker but that shouldn't a issue by requesting/calling a translator.

See the Video of victim ....

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9zWvhckJwv8
Educate yourself.

All right, Assume it was one Canadian who was killed on an Arabic Airport ?? I am sure, 60.000 Canadian Army NETOS with Jets, bombing and killing millions of inocent... because on Canadian killed ? You are really educated buddy. Cheers
 
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Hopeful Canadian said:
ImmOfficer said:
canadaways said:
Canadian Immigration Cruelty on Airport. They killed an immigrants and they even didn't bother theirselves to ask him what he wants and why he was crying etc, although he was a polish or russsian language speaker but that shouldn't a issue by requesting/calling a translator.

See the Video of victim ....

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9zWvhckJwv8
Educate yourself.


Agreed...

Also that you need to pay atttention to other's voices regarding any complaint and need to find out " What the other One is complaining about ? " and try to find a rsolution for it. Isnt it so???

Is speaking Proper/ Writing Proper English more important than the Complaint???

Youare a very educated & Learned person so I expect a ganuine reply.

Hope it wouldhelp to resolve

Always Hopeful


Hopeful Canadian
I am not attacking the bad English. That's all well and good. Immigration had nothing to do with that man getting lost AFTER being landed by an IO, getting frustrated, throwing a temper tantrum, threatening RCMP, and getting subdued by a taser, and later passing away. Hundreds of thousands of travellers who do not speak English or French pass though Canadian airports every day. I have yet to see one pull that crap. Something else was at play there. I know all the cool kids are jumping on the "blame the RCMP" bandwagon, but I think for myself and have been in similar situations
Canadians die in foreign lands all the time. USA, Mexico, European countries.... Most of them put themselves in that situation, let them suffer the consequences. Same goes for people coming to Canada. Don't put yourself in bad situations, and bad things wont happen.

Tonsils Hockey said:
One of my friends who went to Canada on a visit visa was denied entry cuz the immigration officer thought his shoes were dirty and he didn't get them polished before boarding the plane to Canada.
Read the British book "Refusal Shoes".

While there is NO WAY someone was denied entry into Canada for having "dirty shoes", it is certainly possible that the Officer used that as an indicator of an inadmissibility.
 

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He didn't threaten the RCMP and there is still an investigation going on with that case. Looking at the video and what has later come up during the investigation, there is evidence that the RCMP had already decided to taser him before they even met him.

The RCMP has been extremely taser happy. A friend of mine who is a social worker told me that there was a case in Alberta where the RCMP tasered a drunk passed out teenager 11 times just for the heck of it. He said that the police did their own investigation and natually they cleared their officers of any wrong doing. The kid has permanent neurological damages.

The taser has for years been considered a non-lethal weapon but with past incidents and further research, yes, maybe it's non-lethal for the majority of people but age, heart condition and other unknown factors can quickly make it lethal and hence it should only be used when absolutely necessary, not just as a joke.

My question is, why did nobody call an interprator? It's not like there are so few Polish people in the world that they would not have been able to find one.

Apparently the problem was that his mother had told him she'd meet him at the luggage carousel, not knowing she wouldn't be able to get in there. He waited there and she looked for him outside, asking airport staff multiple times to help her find him and they did nothing.

You can educate yourself about this case for example at http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Robert_Dzieka%C5%84ski_Taser_incident
 

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ImmOfficer said:
Hopeful Canadian said:
ImmOfficer said:
canadaways said:
Canadian Immigration Cruelty on Airport. They killed an immigrants and they even didn't bother theirselves to ask him what he wants and why he was crying etc, although he was a polish or russsian language speaker but that shouldn't a issue by requesting/calling a translator.

See the Video of victim ....

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9zWvhckJwv8
Educate yourself.


Agreed...

Also that you need to pay atttention to other's voices regarding any complaint and need to find out " What the other One is complaining about ? " and try to find a rsolution for it. Isnt it so???

Is speaking Proper/ Writing Proper English more important than the Complaint???

Youare a very educated & Learned person so I expect a ganuine reply.

Hope it wouldhelp to resolve

Always Hopeful


Hopeful Canadian
I am not attacking the bad English. That's all well and good. Immigration had nothing to do with that man getting lost AFTER being landed by an IO, getting frustrated, throwing a temper tantrum, threatening RCMP, and getting subdued by a taser, and later passing away. Hundreds of thousands of travellers who do not speak English or French pass though Canadian airports every day. I have yet to see one pull that crap. Something else was at play there. I know all the cool kids are jumping on the "blame the RCMP" bandwagon, but I think for myself and have been in similar situations
Canadians die in foreign lands all the time. USA, Mexico, European countries.... Most of them put themselves in that situation, let them suffer the consequences. Same goes for people coming to Canada. Don't put yourself in bad situations, and bad things wont happen.

Tonsils Hockey said:
One of my friends who went to Canada on a visit visa was denied entry cuz the immigration officer thought his shoes were dirty and he didn't get them polished before boarding the plane to Canada.
Read the British book "Refusal Shoes".

While there is NO WAY someone was denied entry into Canada for having "dirty shoes", it is certainly possible that the Officer used that as an indicator of an inadmissibility.
n ooffence immiofficer but it is humans we r talking about and not goats. plz have soem respect for the dead atleast. i am not saying whether someone is criminal or not all i am saying is that no one has rite to take life of another person and then satrt justifying it with lame execuses
 

Gregor

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I am not attacking the bad English. That's all well and good. Immigration had nothing to do with that man getting lost AFTER being landed by an IO, getting frustrated, throwing a temper tantrum, threatening RCMP, and getting subdued by a taser, and later passing away. Hundreds of thousands of travellers who do not speak English or French pass though Canadian airports every day. I have yet to see one pull that crap. Something else was at play there. I know all the cool kids are jumping on the "blame the RCMP" bandwagon, but I think for myself and have been in similar situations
Canadians die in foreign lands all the time. USA, Mexico, European countries.... Most of them put themselves in that situation, let them suffer the consequences. Same goes for people coming to Canada. Don't put yourself in bad situations, and bad things wont happen.
Hey ImmOfficer
Perhaps you should really educate yourself about this case (as Leon mentions above)!!!
No offence but your comment is just full of crap!
Cheers,
Gregor
 

gerrybyrne

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Since 911 this kind of incident happens worldwide, remember the Brazilian guy on the train in London, the guys who tried to drive the car bomb into the airport in Scotland etc etc. If a guy goes nuts, especially in a public transport situation, he is leaving himself open to this kind of reaction from the cops.
It is sad though to see that he died from what is meant to be an effective but supposedly harmless means of subdueing someone.
 

ImmEnforce

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Hey Immofficer, there is no point....

They will never understand the truth and there is no point in arguing. It's cool right now to pretend you actually know whats going on in the world.

It wasn't a stapler, but a frying pan...I wish I had a taser...