Need suggestions to reply fairness letter.Thanks

[Pippin]

Worried, we're not ganging up on you, but I couldn't have put it better than Opmama did just now.

 

[Worried2008]

Ok Guys

I can't ignore your suggestion for a lawyer.

What I will do ,I will do my initial reasearch and think more solid options for my individual case.After having initial Plan in my head I will talk to a lawyer to see any discrepencies in it.Or May be he could bring a better solution or do something to strenthen the case.

Thanks guys .

 

[Worried2008]

What do you want to say???????????????Kamel? trolling?

 

[opmama]

Ok Guys

I can't ignore your suggestion for a lawyer.

What I will do ,I will do my initial reasearch and think more solid options for my individual case.After having initial Plan in my head I will talk to a lawyer to see any discrepencies in it.Or May be he could bring a better solution or do something to strenthen the case.

Thanks guys .

How long do you have to reply? Lawyers don't always move quickly, and it might take you a while to find the right person, so, just to continue to be obnoxiously pushy ;-P, I'd suggest you get started on that process now. Most lawyers will have an initial conversation with you without charge, and they might be able to do more for you if you give them as much time as possible to work on your behalf.

 

[Pippin]

OMG. I think Opmama can now read my thoughts. Will have to be very careful! Worried, I think you are on the right path now. Sketch out your plan, get specifics from the doctor(s) ASAP and take it all to the lawyer. Don't underestimate the time it could take the lawyer to do her/his bit and don't go over the time they have given you to respond.

 

[lrow]

Hi Worried2008 ,

I would like to know what happened in your case . Sent you a PM .

My wife received medical furtherance from CIC. Not sure if we will receive Fairness Letter request . But just want to be prepared .

regards,
lrow

 

[wowsers]

Hi Worried2008 ,

I would like to know what happened in your case . Sent you a PM .

My wife received medical furtherance from CIC. Not sure if we will receive Fairness Letter request . But just want to be prepared .

regards,
lrow

If your wife is applying for permanent residency as a member of the family class she is not subject to the same rules as Worried 2008's mother: see regulation 38(1)(c) and its disapplication in the cases which follow including (a) the case of a foreign national who has been determined to be a member of the family class and to be the spouse..of a sponsor ..within the meaning of the regulations. Worried 2008 is encountering problems because the applicant is a parent, who falls outside the ambit of that disapplication Sorry I do not understand what you mean by 'medical furtherance'.

 

[lrow]

If your wife is applying for permanent residency as a member of the family class she is not subject to the same rules as Worried 2008's mother: see regulation 38(1)(c) and its disapplication in the cases which follow including (a) the case of a foreign national who has been determined to be a member of the family class and to be the spouse..of a sponsor ..within the meaning of the regulations. Worried 2008 is encountering problems because the applicant is a parent, who falls outside the ambit of that disapplication Sorry I do not understand what you mean by 'medical furtherance'.

Hi wowsers ,

We are on a work permit since 2009 and have applied together for PR-FSW . I as primary applicant and she as a dependent . So Ours is not a family class .
Some more info on my wife's condition . She got ulcerative colitis 8 months after coming to canada . She was taking an expensive medication covered by employer insurance, but is off that medication from last few months (Due to reactions) . She is doing well without any prescription medication and trying with alternative treatment (paid by us) from few months .

Medical Furtherance generally means request from Health branch of CIC for "Additional tests" Like in our case we went to DMP after we got this futherance letter and he took previous specialist report for my wife from us and sent it to ottawa last week (CIC-Health branch) .

 

[wowsers]

Unfortunately my experience is confined to the family sponsorship class,which is the class I am applying under; So I am unable to help you; but you now have the facts set out on this forum and I hope that you will receive advice from someone more knowledgable than I. Best wishes Wowsers.

 

[Worried2008]

Hi guys
just an update.I have gave the reply of fairness letter in Sept 2013. Its been more than 4 months and I haven't heard anything from embassy.what you think ? Are they just lazy or accepted mine arguments.
thanks
I wil update you with any further news
best regards

 

[user828]

Order notes to see whats going on

 

[nicelake]

Hello, Worried2008, May I ask: after you sent the reply to fairness, have you got the results from cic now?

 

[lrow]

Some people are sending me personal message which I miss since I am not active in this forum . Hence would like to update the post .Sorry for late reply hope this helps .

Summary
We got PPR around 4 months after furtherance letter and we Became PR.

Details
This are Some FAQ which I generally get.

Dec 2013 update
1) Has your wife had a further medical? If so, what did it entail?
My wife recieved medical furtherance and we went to DMP with the sealed letter .

They had asked following and below our answers.
Q1. What is her present condition ?
Ans: Stable without flare.

Q2. Who is paying for her medication ?
Ans: Employer insurance . We provided remicade approval letter.

Q3. Dosage and Frequency of medication .
Ans: We provided reciepts .

Q4.Most recent and some previous cossultation reports from speacialists.
Ans: We provided for last 9 months reports [3 reports+ 1 colonyscopy report]


2) Did the doctor hint that the further medical was due to her drug being expensive or do you think people with UC are categorises and thus I am also likely to be required for a further medical exam?
DMP din't say anything but we feel it was due to expensive medication .
By the way when we went to DMP my wife had already stopped expensive medication (Remicade) due to severe reactions and was on Heliminthic Therapy. This is out of pocket expesne and we ordered medicine from UK . She responded well to this alternative therapy.

After I got my PR I answered in March 2014
3) Did anyone advise you that your case could be rejected if your wife stayed on the Remicade, even if you're covered by employer insurance?
No. I felt we were good even good even if she continued Remicade

Here are more details related to number 3 question.
I actually did lot of home work even before getting medical furtherance.
So I went to this lawyer "Kelly Anderson of bellissimo law group" in mid 2013 and she looked up my preparation and said it looks good on paper so even if I receive a futherance and/or medical fairness letter chances are that we will be fine. At that time there was no plan to discontinue Remicade as it was helping my wife and had no side effects.

So status when I went to her ...
1. My wife was taking Remicade and we had plans that she would continue taking it long term.
2. My Wife had 100% employer insurance
3. I had 80 % insurance through my employer .
4. There was a private trust through which I had a letter which said it will cover anything above 200 CAD in case I had to pay out of pocket . [ This was only relevant for 4 months when my wife was changing jobs and 20 % amount would have costed us 600 + CAD]

 

[Aquakitty]

Some people are sending me personal message which I miss since I am not active in this forum . Hence would like to update the post .Sorry for late reply hope this helps .

Summary
We got PPR around 4 months after furtherance letter and we Became PR.

Details
This are Some FAQ which I generally get.

Dec 2013 update
1) Has your wife had a further medical? If so, what did it entail?
My wife recieved medical furtherance and we went to DMP with the sealed letter .

They had asked following and below our answers.
Q1. What is her present condition ?
Ans: Stable without flare.

Q2. Who is paying for her medication ?
Ans: Employer insurance . We provided remicade approval letter.

Q3. Dosage and Frequency of medication .
Ans: We provided reciepts .

Q4.Most recent and some previous cossultation reports from speacialists.
Ans: We provided for last 9 months reports [3 reports+ 1 colonyscopy report]


2) Did the doctor hint that the further medical was due to her drug being expensive or do you think people with UC are categorises and thus I am also likely to be required for a further medical exam?
DMP din't say anything but we feel it was due to expensive medication .
By the way when we went to DMP my wife had already stopped expensive medication (Remicade) due to severe reactions and was on Heliminthic Therapy. This is out of pocket expesne and we ordered medicine from UK . She responded well to this alternative therapy.

After I got my PR I answered in March 2014
3) Did anyone advise you that your case could be rejected if your wife stayed on the Remicade, even if you're covered by employer insurance?
No. I felt we were good even good even if she continued Remicade

Here are more details related to number 3 question.
I actually did lot of home work even before getting medical furtherance.
So I went to this lawyer "Kelly Anderson of bellissimo law group" in mid 2013 and she looked up my preparation and said it looks good on paper so even if I receive a futherance and/or medical fairness letter chances are that we will be fine. At that time there was no plan to discontinue Remicade as it was helping my wife and had no side effects.

So status when I went to her ...
1. My wife was taking Remicade and we had plans that she would continue taking it long term.
2. My Wife had 100% employer insurance
3. I had 80 % insurance through my employer .
4. There was a private trust through which I had a letter which said it will cover anything above 200 CAD in case I had to pay out of pocket . [ This was only relevant for 4 months when my wife was changing jobs and 20 % amount would have costed us 600 + CAD]

Just to avoid confusion, you weren't sponsoring you wife, I assume she was accompanying? Because spouses are excessive-demand exempt... OP seems to have been sponsoring his parents who aren't exempt. So, I don't know if you posted to the correct forum.

 

[lrow]

Just to avoid confusion, you weren't sponsoring you wife, I assume she was accompanying? Because spouses are excessive-demand exempt... OP seems to have been sponsoring his parents who aren't exempt. So, I don't know if you posted to the correct forum.

Hi Aquakitty ,

You are right ! She was accompanying me. First time I just wanted to get an idea about fairness letter since at that time I could not fairness letter context anywhere else hence I posted in this forum. But since my second message involves explaining about the situation. I had mentioned my wife's condition ulcerative colitis (and expensive medication). Because of this lot of people have sent me personal messages in last 2 years. That is reason I have updated this post again yesterday.