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Akash2019

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Hi my refugee case rejected from appeal and federal court I have new proof that they kill my father and shot my brother how many chances to succeed in PRRA I am with my family here in I have 3 daughters one is canadian born.
Please any suggestions?
 

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You will sadly be deported because as per their background check the story doesn’t add up. I’d say hire a good lawyer as a last resort.
 
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Hi my refugee case rejected from appeal and federal court I have new proof that they kill my father and shot my brother how many chances to succeed in PRRA I am with my family here in I have 3 daughters one is canadian born.
Please any suggestions?
Hi, I posted the following sometime ago, but it might help you understand where you are at currently and give you some information to ask of your lawyer. Children are relevant to an H&C application and not so much in a PRRA, for example. The same officer would decide both is you are eligible to apply for both.

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It is easy to confuse and conflate PRRA with an H&C - they're different.

1. Pre-Removal Risk Assessment - you are "invited" to apply for PRRA by the CBSA, if you are eligible. There is no fee. PRRA assesses any risk that may have arisen since your refugee claim was determined. It isn't an appeal or a review of any earlier refugee proceeding, You get a Stay of removal if you comply with the application period. The approval rate is very low and this is because they're looking at new risks (under A96 and 97 of IRPA) based upon new evidence that you must provide. These applications move swiftly.

https://www.canada.ca/en/immigration-refugees-citizenship/services/application/application-forms-guides/guide-5523-applying-removal-risk-assessment.html#5523E2

2. H&C is more complex as the decision-makers have a broader discretion to consider a wide variety of factors and are not to consider A96 and 97, but instead focus upon policy provisions that include commitment to Canada, community support and establishment. Best Interests of the Children (BIOC) is an international endeavour and Canada signed on and this is where it is most apparent. Hardship is also a consideration and it is complicated when compared to PRRA (I have other posts where I think this is differentiated), however the substantive difference is the test, or threshold.

There is no Stay of removal with an undecided H&C, so in other words it doesn't impede removal from Canada and they simply decide it later, after your removal.

https://www.canada.ca/en/immigration-refugees-citizenship/services/application/application-forms-guides/guide-5291-humanitarian-compassionate-considerations.html

H&Cs need to be well put together, organized and policy directed with evidence that you provide and maintain throughout the life of the application. Will it be compelling and not be simply a submission that says my children would do better in Canada rather than anywhere else?
It had best be. This process takes more than a year before an officer will see it. Broader discretionary authority for the decision-maker allows for more approvals when compared with PRRA, but you have to make the case because they won't do it for you.

CIC seems to like deciding both at the same time, if they have both before them. Neither PRRA or H&C will benefit an applicant who cannot satisfy the legislative or policy goals as they're set out, obviously.
 
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Akash2019

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You will sadly be deported because as per their background check the story doesn’t add up. I’d say hire a good lawyer as a last resort.
Hi JSS the new evidence which I talking about this all happen during my last appeal so I didn't get time to add the new evidence so if I do now it can help in prra ?
 

Akash2019

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Hi, I posted the following sometime ago, but it might help you understand where you are at currently and give you some information to ask of your lawyer. Children are relevant to an H&C application and not so much in a PRRA, for example. The same officer would decide both is you are eligible to apply for both.

-------

It is easy to confuse and conflate PRRA with an H&C - they're different.

1. Pre-Removal Risk Assessment - you are "invited" to apply for PRRA by the CBSA, if you are eligible. There is no fee. PRRA assesses any risk that may have arisen since your refugee claim was determined. It isn't an appeal or a review of any earlier refugee proceeding, You get a Stay of removal if you comply with the application period. The approval rate is very low and this is because they're looking at new risks (under A96 and 97 of IRPA) based upon new evidence that you must provide. These applications move swiftly.

https://www.canada.ca/en/immigration-refugees-citizenship/services/application/application-forms-guides/guide-5523-applying-removal-risk-assessment.html#5523E2

2. H&C is more complex as the decision-makers have a broader discretion to consider a wide variety of factors and are not to consider A96 and 97, but instead focus upon policy provisions that include commitment to Canada, community support and establishment. Best Interests of the Children (BIOC) is an international endeavour and Canada signed on and this is where it is most apparent. Hardship is also a consideration and it is complicated when compared to PRRA (I have other posts where I think this is differentiated), however the substantive difference is the test, or threshold.

There is no Stay of removal with an undecided H&C, so in other words it doesn't impede removal from Canada and they simply decide it later, after your removal.

https://www.canada.ca/en/immigration-refugees-citizenship/services/application/application-forms-guides/guide-5291-humanitarian-compassionate-considerations.html

H&Cs need to be well put together, organized and policy directed with evidence that you provide and maintain throughout the life of the application. Will it be compelling and not be simply a submission that says my children would do better in Canada rather than anywhere else?
It had best be. This process takes more than a year before an officer will see it. Broader discretionary authority for the decision-maker allows for more approvals when compared with PRRA, but you have to make the case because they won't do it for you.

CIC seems to like deciding both at the same time, if they have both before them. Neither PRRA or H&C will benefit an applicant who cannot satisfy the legislative or policy goals as they're set out, obviously.
Thanks born lucky
Can you please tell me the new evidence will help me in prra or not ?
 

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Thanks born lucky
Can you please tell me the new evidence will help me in prra or not ?
New evidence is what they're looking for and so, yes - it really, really helps. The whole idea behind PRRA is that there can be a lengthy period between a negative CR decision and removal. Circumstances can change and new evidence can come to light, so this process captures cases where removal would represent a risk to the applicant.

You mentioned children and that is the H&C part which is a different application that would likely be decided by the same officer if both an H&C and a PRRA have been submitted.

There are timelines involved and certain factors that need to be highlighted so a competent immigration lawyer is of value if you can afford it.

Good luck
 
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