Need Advice: Non-accompanying spouse/child in EE profile!

[Darsh007]

Need advice!

My CRS score difference is ~14 between accompanying and non-accompanying spouse. Now, Open Work Permit will be expiring Sep 2025 for both.

Currently primary applicant is in Canada and spouse + Canadian Born Citizen daughter are outside Canada and hence non-accompanying the main applicant.

What if I first put my file alone with spouse as non-accompanying and sure to add daughter also. Then Hopefully get ITA, file for BOWP and then extend spouse's SOWP.

And after I get my PR apply for spouse PR will that work? is it allowed ? is there any misrepresentation possibility here?

Any CRS point benefit by having a Canadian citizen child?

Or should just apply together and get PR together.

Appreciate any guidance/help on this. Thank you.

 

[armoured]

And after I get my PR apply for spouse PR will that work? is it allowed ? is there any misrepresentation possibility here?
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Or should just apply together and get PR together.

First part is perfectly normal and happens all the time; not even a whiff of misrepresentation.

I believe in some cases people have changed their spouses from non-acc to accompanying later in the process - I don't know if that affects the EE points part or if it matters at that stage, or if they look at what the draw cut-off was or what.

 

[Darsh007]

First part is perfectly normal and happens all the time; not even a whiff of misrepresentation.

I believe in some cases people have changed their spouses from non-acc to accompanying later in the process - I don't know if that affects the EE points part or if it matters at that stage, or if they look at what the draw cut-off was or what.

Thanks for the response.

So, if non-accompany then spouse won't get PR at the same time the main applicant get it(Give selected based on CRS). Correct? If yes, then do we need to follow separate/specific process to get PR for the spouse later?

Just want to streamline the process as hassle-free as possible(again depending on CRS score and selection)

 

[scylla]

Thanks for the response.

So, if non-accompany then spouse won't get PR at the same time the main applicant get it(Give selected based on CRS). Correct? If yes, then do we need to follow separate/specific process to get PR for the spouse later?

Just want to streamline the process as hassle-free as possible(again depending on CRS score and selection)

Correct. Non accompanying spouse will not get PR at the same time. You will need to submit a completely separate spousal sponsorship application which will take around a year to process. This involves a whole new set of forms, new fees, etc. You must be living in Canada to qualify to sponsor your spouse.

 

[armoured]

Thanks for the response.

So, if non-accompany then spouse won't get PR at the same time the main applicant get it(Give selected based on CRS). Correct? If yes, then do we need to follow separate/specific process to get PR for the spouse later?

Just want to streamline the process as hassle-free as possible(again depending on CRS score and selection)

Correct. Note the delays and separate application, new meds, etc.

As I mentioned, I do not know the EE process well and under what circumstances you can switch the non-accompanying to accompanying. For you going through on your own, the primary "MUST" is that you must declare your spouse as accompanying or not accompanying.

 

[Darsh007]

Correct. Non accompanying spouse will not get PR at the same time. You will need to submit a completely separate spousal sponsorship application which will take around a year to process. This involves a whole new set of forms, new fees, etc. You must be living in Canada to qualify to sponsor your spouse.

Correct. Note the delays and separate application, new meds, etc.

As I mentioned, I do not know the EE process well and under what circumstances you can switch the non-accompanying to accompanying. For you going through on your own, the primary "MUST" is that you must declare your spouse as accompanying or not accompanying.

Thanks both of you.

So, by that understood is - accompany means both get PR as long as Primary applicant got it regardless they live together in Canada or not. Correct?

 

[armoured]

Thanks both of you.

So, by that understood is - accompany means both get PR as long as Primary applicant got it regardless they live together in Canada or not. Correct?

Accompany means they both become PRs as part of the same process - the dependent 'accompanies' the principal applicant in that process.

The language still refers to it this way basically just because that's the way it used to work, physically accompanying one another.

 

[Darsh007]

Accompany means they both become PRs as part of the same process - the dependent 'accompanies' the principal applicant in that process.

The language still refers to it this way basically just because that's the way it used to work, physically accompanying one another.

What would be best to do in such situations?

 

[armoured]

What would be best to do in such situations?

Read carefully what was written above and check about the EE aspects. This is the wrong forum.

I don't know what they do with recalculating points or if they do if you convert a spouse from non-accompanying to accompanying.

 

[sjpras]

Hey Guys,

I received my ITA on CEC, which I did not include my spouse with my application. Adding her will reduce points, and my age is also at 42. When I submit my application, I am going to write an explanation letter to the officer explaining why I am not accompanying my spouse. My question is, we have two daughters who are studying at the elementary level here in Canada. How do I proceed with their application part? Do i need to mention as non accompany or accompany. Please help me to figure this out

Kindly appreciate your help guys!

 

[Mo2406]

Hi everyone
My husband applied for study permit last year and it was approved
I applied for sowp earlier this year and it was approved as well
I added my 2 years old daughter to my application but didn’t add the other daughter I had with someone else because she wasn’t going to accompany us and her dad didn’t release her to me
My question is:
If I want to apply for PR now can I include her. She is now with my mother

 

[YVR123]

Hi everyone
My husband applied for study permit last year and it was approved
I applied for sowp earlier this year and it was approved as well
I added my 2 years old daughter to my application but didn’t add the other daughter I had with someone else because she wasn’t going to accompany us and her dad didn’t release her to me
My question is:
If I want to apply for PR now can I include her. She is now with my mother

For PR application, you HAVE to declare ALL of your dependents. And all of them need to get medical, background checks (not much background really for children).

Your other daughter can be accompanying or non-accompanying in this PR application. But if accompanying, I believe you need to have full custody and likely forms for the other parent's consent .

Regardless if she is accompanying or non-accompanying in your PR application, she needs to be included in the forms. Otherwise, you can never sponsor her (forever).
declared non-accompanying dependents can be sponsored later.

 

[Mo2406]

Thank you

 

[Riz06]

For PR application, you HAVE to declare ALL of your dependents. And all of them need to get medical, background checks (not much background really for children).

Your other daughter can be accompanying or non-accompanying in this PR application. But if accompanying, I believe you need to have full custody and likely forms for the other parent's consent .

Regardless if she is accompanying or non-accompanying in your PR application, she needs to be included in the forms. Otherwise, you can never sponsor her (forever).
declared non-accompanying dependents can be sponsored later.

HELLO there, I almost have same situation, please I need help. I just got my pr last August and when I saw my ecopr, it says I don't have dependent but I do declare my non accompanying Canadian citizen son who born and currently in Philippines. I am wondering how could I get him from Philippines, he only have proof of Canadian citizenship certificate , he doesn't have passport. My ex and I had divorced and no contact with each other long time ago.

 

[Riz06]

HELLO there, I almost have same situation, please I need help. I just got my pr last August and when I saw my ecopr, it says I don't have dependent but I do declare my non accompanying Canadian citizen son who born and currently in Philippines. I am wondering how could I get him from Philippines, he only have proof of Canadian citizenship certificate , he doesn't have passport. My ex and I had divorced and no contact with each other long time ago.