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[charmed10-2013]

I know this is off topic, but am I the only one?


When I was 26 y/o, I lodged my application for PR. I had a boyfriend then, we can't really make decisions as I am waiting for my visa. I don't want to get married as it might affect my application. When I finally got the visa after 4 years of waiting, I no longer have a boyfriend. Lol.

I started a life here. Two years after, I met my fiance, but since he is an american citizen, no matter how we wanted to get married, I told him to wait, til I apply for citizenship. Now that I applied for citizenship, I told him to wait for the result before we get married. I don't want to CIC to deny me of my citizenship only because I am married to an american citizen. When I told him, current processing time is 24-36mos, I think the history is gonna repeat itself.

I am just wondering, how many people out there have to hold off their life's major decisions because CIC is taking it's time to address the backlog. I know it is a privilege, but sometimes I ask myself. Is it worth it?

 

[rayman_m]

I am pretty sure there is many out there who has many plans or holding back their major decisions for citizenship. As your application process started on Jan,2014, you may find your test date soon followed by the oath. In just few months time you might be able to held your wedding reception.. Good Luck..

 

[eileenf]

You should not deny yourself your own rights unless you have a really good reason. Delaying marriage because of a unspecified fear that the CIC will hold it against you is unnecessary and self-defeating. There is little basis to suggest that PRs do not have the right to marry non-citizens.

I suspect that your real question is about residence, so let's talk about residence. Does your partner live in Canada? Are you planning on moving to the US? Do you plan to stay in Canada? Do you have proof that you live in Canada? Are you meeting your PR residency obligations? Do you meet the citizenship qualification residency obligations? Let's talk about that, but let's not make it sound like we don't have the right to marry who we want to marry because of our lack of citizenship.

There are actual rights which we are being denied due to CIC delays: Voting, absolute mobility rights, privileges for government employment, etc. It's important to be really careful not to exaggerate the rights that we lack because other PRs will read this and assume it to be true.

Let's not oppress ourselves. And let's not encourage other immigrants to deny themselves the right to marry.

 

[CanuckForEver]

I hate to be a downer, but the reality is: based on from where you apply a regular application now takes anywhere between 19 to 24 months. If you have mentioned any of your ties to USA based on your dating life or there have been a regular pattern of visits to US, it is a reason what CIC is looking for to dampen the life out of a candidate's application. I pray and seriously hope that you get your citizenship ASAP but I want you to keep the reality in mind so that you dont get to frustrations.

Hope for the best, but be prepared for even the worst. Just my idea of how to tackle stuck-up people like CIC and the government under whom they work for. Hopefully elections come faster, liberals win a landslide and fix the mess. Their wait times were 3 months (80% of the people) to an year (for fraudulent cases).

 

[charmed10-2013]

You should not deny yourself rights that you have out of fear that the CIC will hold it against you. We need to live our lives. We shouldn't make things harder on ourselves unless we've got a really good, solid basis for suffering though. There is little basis to suggest that PRs do not have the right to marry non-citizens.

The real question is residence. Does your partner live in Canada? Are you planning on moving to the US? Do you plan on staying in Canada? Do you have proof that you live in Canada? Are you meeting your PR residency obligations? Do you meet the citizenship qualification residency obligations. Let's talk about that, but let's not make it sound like we don't have the right to marry who we want to marry because of our lack of citizenship.

No, he is not living here. I plan to move to the US. Yes I met the residency requirements. I applied 2 mos after I qualify just for a buffer. I only was out of Canada, total of 17 days. All 4 visits to the US, which include company sending me for training, the rest are long weekends to the US.

I know my fear, might be baseless. But I worked hard for this, 4 yrs for the PR, and almost 4 yrs now to get the citizenship. I don't want to move to the US before getting my citizenship as I might lose my PR status and those 8 yrs will end up just for nothing. I don't want to marry and stay here, as they might hold that against my intent to stay. I am alone here. No family. No real estate family. My only tie is my job. Maybe I am just paranoid.

 

[vinaypuri]

Coming to Citizenship, you have completed your 3 years I don't see any issues. You will be called for test/Oath once it becomes current.

Now in love... ppl do crazy things, moving geographic locations is nothing , if you do not have 2nd thoughts, go ahead with your life...

My wife and I met in US when I was working there, I came to Canada for work and she moved to Canada with me.. Now we have a Canadian kid

I know this is off topic, but am I the only one?


When I was 26 y/o, I lodged my application for PR. I had a boyfriend then, we can't really make decisions as I am waiting for my visa. I don't want to get married as it might affect my application. When I finally got the visa after 4 years of waiting, I no longer have a boyfriend. Lol.

I started a life here. Two years after, I met my fiance, but since he is an american citizen, no matter how we wanted to get married, I told him to wait, til I apply for citizenship. Now that I applied for citizenship, I told him to wait for the result before we get married. I don't want to CIC to deny me of my citizenship only because I am married to an american citizen. When I told him, current processing time is 24-36mos, I think the history is gonna repeat itself.

I am just wondering, how many people out there have to hold off their life's major decisions because CIC is taking it's time to address the backlog. I know it is a privilege, but sometimes I ask myself. Is it worth it?

 

[charmed10-2013]

Coming to Citizenship, you have completed your 3 years I don't see any issues. You will be called for test/Oath once it becomes current.

Now in love... ppl do crazy things, moving geographic locations is nothing , if you do not have 2nd thoughts, go ahead with your life...

My wife and I met in US when I was working there, I came to Canada for work and she moved to Canada with me.. Now we have a Canadian kid

Good for you. I just want my citizenship before moving. We never know, we both would want to come back here. I prefer the life here. Just that, it is more practical for me to move there as he has family there. I do not have any here. But I don't wanna close our doors for the possibility of living back here someday. That's why I am patiently waiting for my citizenship.

Sorry if I sound such a discouragement to others. I just don't have real people/friends to tell my fears in times of low mood like this. Thank you for all your replies.

 

[eileenf]

No, he is not living here. I plan to move to the US. Yes I met the residency requirements. I applied 2 mos after I qualify just for a buffer. I only was out of Canada, total of 10 days. All 4 visits to the US, which include company sending me for training, the rest are long weekends to the US.

I know my fear, might be baseless. But I worked hard for this, 4 yrs for the PR, and almost 4 yrs now to get the citizenship. I don't want to move to the US before getting my citizenship as I might lose my PR status and those 8 yrs will end up just for nothing. I don't want to marry and stay here, as they might hold that against my intent to stay. I am alone here. No family. No real estate family. My only tie is my job. Maybe I am just paranoid.

Okay. So the question is about whether you may encounter problems if you leave Canada permanently while your citizenship application is in process. It's not about your right to marry. Please, let's be very clear about that. PRs can marry non-citizens!

The answer is, it depends. Some forum members do not have problems getting citizenship even after they leave. Some do.

The CIC is not that eager to grant citizenship to those who move abroad and do not seem to have the intention to move back in short order. The issue is that you will need to maintain your PR status until the moment you take the oath, and sometimes the CIC will slow down processing for out-of-country applicants. That means if it takes 37 months to process your citizenship while you're in the US, they will deny your citizenship because your PR status will have lapsed at that point (you have to be in Canada 2 years out of every 5 until you become a citizen).

Good luck.

 

[vic48912]

I know this is off topic, but am I the only one?


When I was 26 y/o, I lodged my application for PR. I had a boyfriend then, we can't really make decisions as I am waiting for my visa. I don't want to get married as it might affect my application. When I finally got the visa after 4 years of waiting, I no longer have a boyfriend. Lol.

I started a life here. Two years after, I met my fiance, but since he is an american citizen, no matter how we wanted to get married, I told him to wait, til I apply for citizenship. Now that I applied for citizenship, I told him to wait for the result before we get married. I don't want to CIC to deny me of my citizenship only because I am married to an american citizen. When I told him, current processing time is 24-36mos, I think the history is gonna repeat itself.

I am just wondering, how many people out there have to hold off their life's major decisions because CIC is taking it's time to address the backlog. I know it is a privilege, but sometimes I ask myself. Is it worth it?

I will say fuck and get on in life!!!

I put my life on hold for 7 years before my PR application was approved. I refuse to work in the US even after my company tried to force me to relocate on a H1B work visa. My brother that moved from Scotland to the US 5 years ago is now American citizen, his US Citizenship application took just 3 months to get his US citizenship......Now I got a good job oppurtunity in the Saudi Arabia so I am definitely taking the job offer. I am not going to play that game again

I wouldn't make long term waiting for 7 years thinking it will jeopardize my permanent resident application. Never again will I allow a bunch of narcissistic politician put my live on hold. I have just been issued with the moronic finger print request that means my application now fall under the category of non routine avg processing time 36 months. Hell no! I don't think I have the mental capacity to go thruogh that kind of torture

 

[charmed10-2013]

I will say *censored word* and get on in life!!!

I put my life on hold for 7 years before my PR application was approved. I refuse to work in the US even after my company tried to force me to relocate on a H1B work visa. My brother that moved from Scotland to the US 5 years ago is now American citizen, his US Citizenship application took just 3 months to get his US citizenship......Now I got a good job oppurtunity in the Saudi Arabia so I am definitely taking the job offer. I am not going to play that game again

I wouldn't make long term waiting for 7 years thinking it will jeopardize my permanent resident application. Never again will I allow a bunch of narcissistic politician put my live on hold. I have just been issued with the moronic finger print request that means my application now fall under the category of non routine avg processing time 36 months. Hell no! I don't think I have the mental capacity to go thruogh that kind of torture

Goodluck Vic. I also worked in Dubai for 9 years before coming to Canada. Middle east is good for saving. God bless you..

 

[Dejaavu]

Charmed10-2013,

I hear you. Since you spent almost 8 years for this, I would wait until I get the citizenship.

My wife is US a citizen and she is a PR here as well. She had a horrible experience with the medical system here during her pregnancy, delivery and after the pregnancy that she wants us all to go back to US. She wants to start the petition process asap. I applied for citizenship in June 2013. I think the US immigrant visa processing for US spouses take about six months. If I do not get the Canadian citizenship by then, we will still probably go to US since my wife is not happy here...We have been here since 2010.

It is always best to make a decision and stick with it, at least that is how I see it.

 

[charmed10-2013]

Charmed10-2013,

I hear you. Since you spent almost 8 years for this, I would wait until I get the citizenship.

My wife is US a citizen and she is a PR here as well. She had a horrible experience with the medical system here during her pregnancy, delivery and after the pregnancy that she wants us all to go back to US. She wants to start the petition process asap. I applied for citizenship in June 2013. I think the US immigrant visa processing for US spouses take about six months. If I do not get the Canadian citizenship by then, we will still probably go to US since my wife is not happy here...We have been here since 2010.

It is always best to make a decision and stick with it, at least that is how I see it.

Thank you Dejaavu I appreciate you understanding my situation.

I wish you and your wife will get your Canadian Citizenship soon, and for you to be able to move back to USA and start a new life

 

[farrous13]

I was really worried about the small details before submitting my application. Being a PR did hurt me a bit. It prevented me from getting a job that I really wanted at the time in Canada and multiple jobs in the US. I never considered moving to another province until now. My citizenship application was the reason why I avoided moving.

However, lately I gave up the fear. I got married in 2012 to my wife in her home country (Latin America) and got my marriage certificate from the consulate while on vacation in Mexico. I am sure it confused the CIC. Right now, I am trying to move out west. I don't care how long it will affect my citizenship application. I am kind of sick of the situation.

eileenf, I really appreciate that you're trying to have PRs stand up for their rights and what not, but in reality its much more complicated. It's like asking someone to stand up to their rights in front of their boss at work when in reality no one does because it would hurt their career. Regardless, I am one of the people that don't care about the CIC putting me under scrutiny. I call once every two weeks and I keep putting the agents under the fact that lots of applicants are getting their citizenship in less than 12 months.

But if applicants want to practice their precautions, I would'nt criticize it.

 

[charmed10-2013]

I was really worried about the small details before submitting my application. Being a PR did hurt me a bit. It prevented me from getting a job that I really wanted at the time in Canada and multiple jobs in the US. I never considered moving to another province until now. My citizenship application was the reason why I avoided moving.

However, lately I gave up the fear. I got married in 2012 to my wife in her home country (Latin America) and got my marriage certificate from the consulate while on vacation in Mexico. I am sure it confused the CIC. Right now, I am trying to move out west. I don't care how long it will affect my citizenship application. I am kind of sick of the situation.

eileenf, I really appreciate that you're trying to have PRs stand out for their rights and what not, but in reality its much more complicated. It's like asking someone to stand out to their rights in front of their boss at work when in reality no one does because it would hurt their career. Regardless, I am one of the people that don't care about the CIC putting me under scrutiny. I call once every two weeks and I keep putting the agents under the fact that lots of applicants are getting their citizenship in less than 12 months.

But if applicants want to practice their precautions, I would'nt criticize it.

farrous13,

thank you for understanding my situation too.

i hope for the best for all of us.

there's always light at the end of the tunnel

 

[Msafiri]

charmed10-2013,

1. Unless you tell CIC about your marriage which you don't have to (unless you make a sponsorship application) then its none of their business.

2. If you declared all your absence days accurately then there is not really any issue.

3. You can get an RQ regardless of lack of travel, minimal travel, extensive travel so making this the reason to put your life on hold IMHO is not worth it.

4. Until you oath make sure you don't breach the RO or get into any trouble with the law that raises criminality issues as this will prevent you becoming a Citizen or even worse lead to loss of PR.

5. All the very best with your decision making and the citizenship application.