My two cents on new immigration rules this fall

[Sunny_ist]

I don't despise anybody. An entry to Canada is very easy for students so my point was if Canada starts distributing PRs to students, it might hurt this country in long term. I am in favor of giving some advantage to students over outlanders but when it comes to responsibility, the best should be given a chance to bear it. As I already mentioned, so many don't even work in their streams once they get a PR. I had to get out of US because I couldn't get H1 though I was working in U HAUL on full time basis. I know how it feels like but again, I never curse US for that also. I m a humble man who believes in merit.

 

[ronnieS]

I don't despise anybody. An entry to Canada is very easy for students so my point was if Canada starts distributing PRs to students, it might hurt this country in long term. I am in favor of giving some advantage to students over outlanders but when it comes to responsibility, the best should be given a chance to bear it. As I already mentioned, so many don't even work in their streams once they get a PR. I had to get out of US because I couldn't get H1 though I was working in U HAUL on full time basis. I know how it feels like but again, I never curse US for that also. I m a humble man who believes in merit.

Who ever has the qualification, Language skills, Job with in their profession should be given a fair chance.
Buddy People not working in their respective fields go for both the students and outland EE applicants who landed here as PR.
The whole point is to make the process smother, those who deserves it should be given fair chance in the system.

 

[Alexios07]

An entry to Canada is very easy for students so my point was if Canada starts distributing PRs to students, it might hurt this country in long term.

What do you mean by saying this? Again, have you done your research?

 

[Sunny_ist]

Yes sir, I have seen people who failed here in their native country going to Canada on student visa. This is not a blanket statement, I am talking about around 70% of students. My aunts' daughters have not made into MBBS and one could not pass physics exam, now they are arriving in Canada very soon.

 

[Alexios07]

Yes sir, I have seen people who failed here in their native country going to Canada on student visa. This is not a blanket statement, I am talking about around 70% of students. My aunts' daughters have not made into MBBS and one could not pass physics exam, now they are arriving in Canada very soon.

And ? since when study permit/travel visa = PR ? international education is a $7 billion dollars industry here in Canada and creating thousands of jobs for local people.
If you have money you can travel and study in any places you want in the world, except for North Korea.

 

[karenv]

Yes sir, I have seen people who failed here in their native country going to Canada on student visa. This is not a blanket statement, I am talking about around 70% of students. My aunts' daughters have not made into MBBS and one could not pass physics exam, now they are arriving in Canada very soon.

Did they come here to become Doctor? If the answer is no, there should be no issue. They can come to Canada for another program or another college.

 

[JALT]

That was all an speculation. We keep on assuming things which in no way should be taken into consideration. No one knows what Govt will come out with in revised EE. you can also post your views. As said by Sunny_ist, seems my assumption is fair enough.

Yeah sorry, I meant someone "suggested" as in 'put forward an idea' - their own speculation of what might happen. It wasn't supposed to sound like somebody had said it was going to happen, or that I was assuming it was true - as you say in your post.

Lost in translation maybe, we're all from completely different parts of the world on this forum so we all have our own ways of using English :

 

[JALT]

Students currently get the short end of the stick as they cannot count any of their (part-time) work while on a study permit.

I find this the most frustrating thing of all! I have a part-time job (NOC category A) - if I was on any other kind of work permit then it would be classed as Canadian experience. But because I'm working on my student visa it's not classed as Canadian experience. My part-time job has absolutely nothing to do with my university course, it's a normal Canadian part-time job that anybody in Canada can apply for..... and it's not like I'm working at the lowest level because I'm a student as they regular say I'm one of their most experienced as I've been there over two-years now.

I realise we get our points towards CEC when we graduate from our studies, but it would be really nice if we could use our work experience as well!!

 

[LokiJr01]

I think it's just fair for immigration to have some special consideration to International Students. They've spent a lot of money and time to go through this after all.
But I also think they should not give too much advantage to students as well. Being an international student does not automatically translate to being an economic gain to Canada.

Immigration is not a pay to win system and should be based on who is most qualified based on age, language proficiency, education, work experience.

 

[coolhyd]

Yes sir, I have seen people who failed here in their native country going to Canada on student visa. This is not a blanket statement, I am talking about around 70% of students. My aunts' daughters have not made into MBBS and one could not pass physics exam, now they are arriving in Canada very soon.

Dude, calm down. You are sounding like a loser. You are so disappointed by the announcements made by the minster.

 

[lannguyen]

I do not want to argue how they will award more points for international students here.

International students would be the most beneficial for Canada in terms of economic gain, over foreign skilled workers. International students have been living in the country for years, they know the country, the language, the people and the law. Of course, they would be a much better fit than a foreign skilled worker who has never been to Canada. In terms of adaptability, they are the most fit.

It all depends on Canadian government if they wanna keep the young resource in their country, when they already educate them like Canadian citizens.

 

[GARJ]

This post is ridiculous. Students have it the worst under Express Entry, just ask the thousands who have had to leave because of it. I don't know if the poster has had any experience with Canadian education, but paying tuition doesn't immediately get you the degree or diploma. You still have to do years of study. If it's so easy to get PR by paying tuition, then why don't you do that instead? FSW have to submit POF, around 15k. That's almost tuition. You chose your own path of immigration, let the rest find their own as well.

 

[Sunny_ist]

Dude, calm down. You are sounding like a loser. You are so disappointed by the announcements made by the minster.

I am not disappointed. Canada ll look after its long term benefits so I wanted to convey that changes won't change much though they ll be beneficial to students.

 

[LokiJr01]

I've posted somewhere in the forums before that International Students should have a different visa route from the standard FSW. Reason for this is because you can't accurately compare a foreign skilled worker from an international student.

If CIC will be smart about it, they should form a different bridging visa for international students - with their own set of requirements and their own set of quotas. That ensures that they get the best of the international students for Canada. Screening should be based on language proficiency, age, previous work experience, grades of the student, and the relevance of the course finished to the economy....

 

[Sunny_ist]

Source?


So your aunt's daughters (they're your cousins by the way) are 70% of students? If not then where did you create that figure?

Cousins? You don't call any random woman 'auntie'?? You Jump to concluSions quickly. I have seen this trend in past ten years. Many of my fellow classmates who could not get into decent college reached Canada. They never chose US because of its strict rules. Again, all student visa holders working for an organization of repute should get PR, no one is disputing that but Canada should not distribute PR like a candy to students. There should be some sort of check, that's all.