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My two cents on new immigration rules this fall

Sunny_ist

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May 16, 2016
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People are mentioning more points for Canadian graduates:

International students already have edge over others since they can secure a job offer and score 600 CRS points straight. Unless Canadian government wants to turn student visa into PR straight or they want to accept all the losers who could not get a job in Canada on their own, I don't think this rule will get a nod from the ministry. At least it doesn't make any sense to me, it will open the flood gates. Pay the tuition fee and u r a permanent resident. I don't think Canadian govt is going to set the bar so low.
 

RockCan

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LMIA?? its not cake walk buddy, noone is ready to do that. its only available for low skiled jobs, where you are working as a cashier, give them money for LMIA and they will write you letter as a manager or supervisor...!! Come here and you will figure out that how hard it is to find a job...!!
 

Sunny_ist

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Well, been to US. Secured a job twice in renowned multinationals. Canadian govt has allowed almost everyone to reach Canada on student visa, I know it from experience; bright people also go there,
no doubt. I m wondering if Canadian government is going to keep some sort of check on who stays and who leaves. Otherwise, it may cause chaos.
 

RegularGuy

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Mind your language, those who try to move after so called "excelling" in their career in other countries are even bigger losers. Leaving a so called shinning career for Canadian residency.
 

Mr Optimist

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Sunny_ist said:
People are mentioning more points for Canadian graduates:

International students already have edge over others since they can secure a job offer and score 600 CRS points straight. Unless Canadian government wants to turn student visa into PR straight or they want to accept all the losers who could not get a job in Canada on their own, I don't think this rule will get a nod from the ministry. At least it doesn't make any sense to me, it will open the flood gates. Pay the tuition fee and u r a permanent resident. I don't think Canadian govt is going to set the bar so low.
I hope you're right. It will be ludicrous to distribute PRs to every student. However, I'm all in support of giving a deserving edge in PR process to those who studied in Canada.
 

Sunny_ist

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May 16, 2016
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RegularGuy said:
Mind your language, those who try to move after so called "excelling" in their career in other countries are even bigger losers. Leaving a so called shinning career for Canadian residency.
Lol, don't get offended. Tricky part about US is H1B. They are conducting lotteries so mine wasn't picked twice. It's up to luck now in US. So I am thinking from a long term perspective, Canada is a beautiful country and deserves best talent, that's all bud!!
 

JALT

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Mr Optimist said:
I hope you're right. It will be ludicrous to distribute PRs to every student. However, I'm all in support of giving a deserving edge in PR process to those who studied in Canada.
I did see a post (I can't remember the poster) that suggested the extra points might not be for CRS points, but rather more points towards the 67 points needed to be able to gain entry into the EE pool in the first place, but whatever CRS points you would have stay the same. So just allows more International Students to be able to enter the pool. I'm not sure what to make of that.

My own suggestion is that you will just get like 10 extra CRS points if your qualification was from Canada or something similar. An extra 10 points is not exactly going to rock the EE boat, but the government will have fulfilled their promise to give extra points....
 

amndhln

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Sunny_ist said:
People are mentioning more points for Canadian graduates:

International students already have edge over others since they can secure a job offer and score 600 CRS points straight. Unless Canadian government wants to turn student visa into PR straight or they want to accept all the losers who could not get a job in Canada on their own, I don't think this rule will get a nod from the ministry. At least it doesn't make any sense to me, it will open the flood gates. Pay the tuition fee and u r a permanent resident. I don't think Canadian govt is going to set the bar so low.
Actually you are very wrong here, only a very very small number of Canadian Graduates gets the extra 600, coz for that you dont need a simple job offer but the LMIA, which is not easy to get. So majority of Canadian graduates compete with open CRS scores. and I am saying being a Canadian graduate but I got PR without LMIA or the extra 600 and I know the ground realties.

IMO what will happen is something like the old CEC, like if you worked in your field of study for a specific time (Say a year) and qualify for O,A, B NOC class, you would be given some extra advantage.
 

JALT

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amndhln said:
IMO what will happen is something like the old CEC, like if you worked in your field of study for a specific time (Say a year) and qualify for O,A, B NOC class, you would be given some extra advantage.
It sounds fair, and a reasonable plan. It shows that the students are actually capable of obtaining, and keeping (as in not getting fired) a job in Canada as well.
 

Sunny_ist

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amndhln said:
Actually you are very wrong here, only a very very small number of Canadian Graduates gets the extra 600, coz for that you dont need a simple job offer but the LMIA, which is not easy to get. So majority of Canadian graduates compete with open CRS scores. and I am saying being a Canadian graduate but I got PR without LMIA or the extra 600 and I know the ground realties.

IMO what will happen is something like the old CEC, like if you worked in your field of study for a specific time (Say a year) and qualify for O,A, B NOC class, you would be given some extra advantage.
Well, some advantage is fine since Canada has to lure students to it's universities, up to 5-10 points is fine. Otherwise, it should be a fair game. Canada might have to pay a price in long term for lowering the bar and for giving PR to unqualified people. I know so many people who don't even work in their professions after PR, so this step might exacerbate the situation.
 

bestofluck

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JALT said:
I did see a post (I can't remember the poster) that suggested the extra points might not be for CRS points, but rather more points towards the 67 points needed to be able to gain entry into the EE pool in the first place, but whatever CRS points you would have stay the same. So just allows more International Students to be able to enter the pool. I'm not sure what to make of that.

My own suggestion is that you will just get like 10 extra CRS points if your qualification was from Canada or something similar. An extra 10 points is not exactly going to rock the EE boat, but the government will have fulfilled their promise to give extra points....
That was all an speculation. We keep on assuming things which in no way should be taken into consideration. No one knows what Govt will come out with in revised EE. you can also post your views. As said by Sunny_ist, seems my assumption is fair enough.
 

Sunny_ist

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bestofluck said:
That was all an speculation. We keep on assuming things which in no way should be taken into consideration. No one knows what Govt will come out with in revised EE. you can also post your views. As said by Sunny_ist, seems my assumption is fair enough.
Government will make a policy considering pros and cons of it, that is what I am saying. They will shy away from one that is going to hurt them in long term. Imagine you are a tutor and one of your students wants to join you, your familiarity with him/her gives an advantage, but you would rather check student's record to see whether he or she is employable and will help you flourish your business, that is something nobody can ignore and of course, Canada will spare a thought for this.
 

pgq

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Students currently get the short end of the stick as they cannot count any of their (part-time) work while on a study permit. How is it correct for instance that a PhD student in Canada for 2 years, who got a job in his field of research 1 month after arriving in Canada and has able to progress with his research in an adequate manner, be treated under the CRS system the same way as someone who just finished a Master degree outside Canada, has never even come to Canada and who knows how much trouble will have to find and, most importantly, keep a job in Canada?

Something needs to change to fix that issue.
 

Alexios07

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Sunny_ist said:
People are mentioning more points for Canadian graduates:

International students already have edge over others since they can secure a job offer and score 600 CRS points straight. Unless Canadian government wants to turn student visa into PR straight or they want to accept all the losers who could not get a job in Canada on their own, I don't think this rule will get a nod from the ministry. At least it doesn't make any sense to me, it will open the flood gates. Pay the tuition fee and u r a permanent resident. I don't think Canadian govt is going to set the bar so low.
Do your research before posting a comment. No int'l students can get 600 crs from a job offer. If it's that easy, then why the government even bothers to make new changes?
 

ronnieS

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Sunny_ist said:
Lol, don't get offended. Tricky part about US is H1B. They are conducting lotteries so mine wasn't picked twice. It's up to luck now in US. So I am thinking from a long term perspective, Canada is a beautiful country and deserves best talent, that's all bud!!
Do you even know how much it costs for a 2 year university program for an international student?

I did my LLM from Canada.... ok wait do you even know what LLM is.... Okay Masters in Law.... and do you know much it cost to do LLM as an international student way above your pay grade !!!

The truth is no one is ready to give LMIA for professional jobs so no 600 points man!!! We all are sailing in the same boat.

You said you have a work experience in USA, stop despising others and try to gather your points. There are no freebies for anyone here.